EV question.

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Considering that both my togekiss and gallade have 31 ivs in speed, how many evs do they need to outspeed things after using thunder wave?
 
what are "things"? It depends on what you want to outspeed obviousally...
 
Yeah your pretty much on top of anything not ground type or named "electrive" after you've T-waved it.
 
So I don't have to waste a single ev on speed for either of them? Thats good, now i gotta think of where i want to stick the other evs.
 
Unless its a scarfed Ninjask, and at that point Id be more worried that your playing someone with a scarfed Ninjask then being slower then a pokemon after t-wave.

In short, t-wave cripples speed like string theory cripples logic, so I wouldnt worry about EV's.
 
just becareful with lum berry. a metagross with rockslide holding lum is deadly for kiss, and same with kiss against gallade with airslash and lum. but yeah for the most part speed is already high.
 
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