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NOC Everchanging Mafia - Game thread - Day 5!

Votecount 3.0
pulsar512b (1): peum
Lonelyness (1): vishy fishy
evie (1): Blizihguh

Not voting: phoopes, ElectricityCat, Dead by Daylight, a fairy, pulsar512b, Evie, des121, LonelyNess, Westcraft, Airc, genisu

Around 26 hours left of day 3!
 
As a bit of a preview, I can say that for the first time something Peum says actually makes a bit of sense to me. And I really don’t like Genisu’s attitude in this game at all, showing up to play for just 10 minutes a day, not really reading the posts properly, and arguing that he doesn’t do so because “this game is awful.”
I agree but there are like multiple people doing that
 
I have work in five hours and I do not feel particularly inspired by the current state of the thread, so I'm just going to post some reads and dip.

This list is not exhaustive but I've been typing for an hour and at this point I just need to go the fuck to sleep. I am 100% sure people are going to tunnel me off of this because I changed my mind on some things and also left out some players I had a notable opinion on before. Deal with it lol, as I said if I lose sleep it's bad for the children :) Also tbc I have four people in my scum core but I'm not prideful enough to think I have actually solved the game rn; this is just my current working theory and I feel like I probably have several scum in there if not 4 for 4.

-- Town core --
Vishy Fishy: Obvtown, anyone who seriously suspected this at any point is either smoking something or they're scum lol

-- Probably town --
Peum: Obviously I suspected them for a while, but after talking to them and hearing their thoughts on stuff besides ECat I've come around. Scum Peum probably could have gotten away with continuing to tunnel ECat when it became clear that ECat was not getting lynched, but that's not what happened. I'm not sure they really fit into any of the scum cores I'm considering, either.

-- Above average town --
a fairy: tbh, she seems very defeatist as town and more active/take charge as scum. I don't want to put too much stock into that, because it's a very easy town meta to play as scum. That being said, I also can't help but notice that she seems to be a unanimous scumread, which usually does not actually happen to scum. The fact that she hasn't really been in serious contention for the lynch does give me some pause though, because "everyone lowkey scumreads them but nobody is trying to lynch them" can be a scum tell imo.

-- Scum core --
AirC: I feel like they are playing very similarly to WikiMafia, where they were scum with me. Otoh before they got replaced out last game they seemed to be playing pretty differently, and not differently like "they didn't have the time to dedicate to the game," I mean like they seemed to be putting in significantly MORE effort to me. The impression that I get this game is that AirC is trying to come off like they're not very confident in their abilities or understanding of the game, which I don't really buy.
Evie: Not liking the above post which I 100% read as just incoherently parroting the received wisdom of "Bliz is bad because chainsaw defense + Peum town." I was kinda neutral before but I haven't seen them really doing any scumhunting on their own. Celever was also suspicious of them popping in to vote for me yesterday. Mitigating this a bit: the options they were weighing were both town anyway, and I think if you were scum in that situation you probably would not pop in with such a weaksauce justification as "I like bliz less than Miyami because I have not read Miyami's posts." But I could still see it as scum looking for a reason to pick one of the two wagons. It also helps that it's the wagon that was not chosen; if the scum coordinated to ensure it went to Miyami, then Evie could have been distancing from that. That would track with a scum team including phoopes, who voted for Miyami. In fact, given the hectic nature of EOD, it might make sense for scum to just split on the two town wagons, that way they don't get overexposed by piling on one.
Phoopes: I was already sus on him when I got off yesterday. The combinations of Phoopes+DBD and Phoopes+Evie both makes way too much sense to me, which is pushing him further down here.
DBD: It really just feels to me like DBD is not trying to scumhunt this game. I still don't follow the logic of "ECat is definitely town but my #1 scumread (seemingly) is the person who was defending them, because I don't like that they were defending them." Like in post 1540 he literally lays out the argument of "Peum's logic for ECat being scum is not good, and ECat leaving thread after dogpiling makes way more sense as town than scum" -- but when I lay out that argument it's a chainsaw defense ig. He also apparently does not townread Peum, but again when I sus Peum that's bad! And this is slightly circular, since one part of the reason I scumread phoopes is the association here; but I just think giving the mayorship to Phoopes is sus. There were certainly better options. Celever was a valid target at the time, if I understand correctly. DBD clearly townreads ECat quite strongly too.

##Vote: Evie The only one of those four I'm not super jazzed about voting is Phoopes, just bc I feel like my read on him is more based on vibes and him seeming to make sense as teamed with some of my other choices. Evie is definitely my #1 choice here though.
i want to iso bliz DBD evie off this and figure out my thoughts but my first guess is that DBD basically said nothing all game so
 
After yesterday I think the chance of Pulsar being scum is near 80%, There was a general consensus on Pulsar not acting the way she does when she plays as town, Celever and I totally brought that up at the EoD yesterday, on my PoE (which you should read I dont think you have sorry if im wrong) I remarked things that Pulsar said that felt wrong, and Me, Celever and AirC were bringing up a Flashwagon at the EoD, which we tried to do. Now, tell me. If Pulsar was town, what would scum do in that scenario (Unless you think that both me and AirC were scum), try to go for the AFK townie so that Miyami keeps the suspicions for the later days or do you stay on Miyami so that she gets voted out and the heat runs cold. I think mafia decided not to switch to Pulsar due to Pulsar being mafia. And I had already some arguments to present why I thought Pulsar was scum, so that was the last thing that convinced me on Pulsar being scum.
sorry but can you lay out why im scum becuase if its 'you actually seem like youre trying' im going to explode
 
this argument like. i get why people might believe it and they might be right but like. its really fucking annoying bc it incentivizes both sides of me to not try which is something i dont want to do like im sorry i want to play the game and get scumread for that yk
 
i still dont quite get the logic but its fine if you want to vote me out do it and lose again
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DBD's posting is like a little weak and i feel like esp given hwo he acted last game it feels different so ##Vote: DBD
 
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