National Dex Monotype Ferrothorn (Steel) [DONE]

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[SET]
name: Defensive (Steel)
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Protect
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Spikes
item: Leftovers
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferrothorn is a great defensive pivot for Steel teams because of its excellent defensive typing, which packs a valuable resistance to Water- and Electric-type attacks, good bulk, and ability to provide entry hazards for its team. Leech Seed is Ferrothorn's main form of recovery and inflicts passive damage on opposing threats such as Toxapex. With Protect, Ferrothorn gets an extra turn of Leech Seed and Leftovers recovery and the ability to scout Choice item users like Diggersby, Mamoswine, and Blacephalon. Power Whip hits Ground- and Water-types; it OHKOes Mega Swampert, Seismitoad, and Gastrodon, and heavily damages Urshifu-R, Excadrill, and Keldeo. It also makes Ferrothorn less passive in general, as it can hit frail offensive threats like Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele hard. Spikes provides a great way to capitalize on other defensive Pokemon that like to switch into Ferrothorn, such as Heatran. The EV spread gives Ferrothorn enough Special Defense to withstand a Focus Blast from Landorus most of the time, and enough Defense to increase its overall effectiveness against physical threats like Choice Band Excadrill and Zeraora.

Every Pokemon on a Steel teams benefits from Ferrothorn's ability to pivot into most Water- and Electric-types and set up Spikes to wear down the opposing team. Flying-types like Celesteela, Skarmory, and Corviknight switch into Fighting-types like Mega Gallade for Ferrothorn. In return, they gain from Ferrothorn checking threats such as Tapu Koko and Kingdra. Heatran is also one of the best partners for Ferrothorn, as it pivots into Fire-type attacks that usually greatly threaten Ferrothorn and beats opposing Steel-types that wall Ferrothorn like Skarmory. Ferrothorn then switches into Water-type attacks in Heatran’s stead. Aegislash also helps with Ferrothorn's weaknesses, as it is immune to Fighting-type attacks, and prevents Rapid Spin from removing Ferrothorn's Spikes. Due to its typing, bulk, and ability to set up, Mega Scizor checks certain Fighting-types such as Mega Lopunny. In return, Mega Scizor excels with Spikes support from Ferrothorn, as it becomes that much easier to sweep with Bullet Punch later in the game. Z-Happy Hour Jirachi and Bisharp are other similar late-game sweepers that capitalize off of Ferrothorn's Spikes support and chip damage. Jirachi's Psychic typing makes it a good answer to troublesome Fighting-types like Keldeo and Kommo-o, while Bisharp takes on Psychic- and Ghost-type foes such as Latias, Aegislash, and Latios. Magnezone traps and removes opposing Steel-types like Celesteela, which threatens Ferrothorn with Flamethrower, and opposing Ferrothorn, which may set up its own entry hazards. Scarf Excadrill revenge kills Fire-types like Blacephalon, provides a secondary check to Electric-types, and pairs well with Ferrothorn's resistance to Water-types and Spikes support for cleaning up late-game.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Steel
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Ferrothorn can run Stealth Rock instead of Spikes if no other Pokemon on the team has it or it is paired with Skarmory, which can set up its own Spikes. However, it is outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Heatran. Knock Off, Toxic, and Thunder Wave have a lot of utility and disadvantage many of Ferrothorn's switch-ins. Knock Off removes valuable items such as Eviolite from Porygon2; Toxic cripples certain bulky switch-ins such as Torkoal, Kyurem, and Landorus-Therian; Thunder Wave cripples fast threats such as Cinderace and Volcarona. It should be noted that running one of these moves forces Ferrothorn to forgo one of its other valuable move slots.

Checks and Counters
===================

Steel
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**Fire-types and Coverage**: Because of Ferrothorn's 4x weakness to Fire, it gets OHKOed by most STAB Fire-type attacks. Even Pokemon with common Fire-type coverage moves such as Nidoking or Clefable can OHKO or 2HKO Ferrothorn.

**Fighting-types and Coverage**: Although Ferrothorn is not as weak to Fighting-types as it is to Fire-types, many Fighting-types such as Keldeo and Galarian Zapdos threaten to OHKO it. Ferrothorn can, however, use Protect to scout which of these Pokemon are using Choice sets. Breloom is particularly threatening, as it is not vulnerable to any attack from Ferrothorn and can even set up Swords Dance in front of it. Ferrothorn also must be wary of Fighting-type coverage moves such as Focus Blast from Tapu Lele.

**Stallbreakers**: As Ferrothorn is a very passive Pokemon, certain stallbreakers such as Gliscor easily take advantage of it, although frail stallbreakers such as Urshifu-R will not want to switch in directly and risk a Leech Seed or Power Whip.

**Magnet Pull**: Magnezone and the less common Alolan Golem can trap Ferrothorn and get rid of it with Hidden Power Fire or Fire Punch, respectively, so they must be carefully played around, though Alolan Golem should be wary of Power Whip.

**Mega Sableye**: Mega Sableye bounces back Ferrothorn's Spikes and Leech Seed and tanks Power Whip, especially after Ferrothorn is burned by a potential foe like Galarian Corsola.

**Wallbreakers**: Certain wallbreakers such as Choice Specs Pelipper, Galarian Moltres, and Mega Garchomp power through Ferrothorn even with Leech Seed recovery. Galarian Moltres even sets up on Ferrothorn freely, although it does have to be cautious of being worn down by Leech Seed or crippled by Toxic or Thunder Wave.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Felines, 290520]]
- Steel analysis by: [[Felines, 290520]]
- Quality checked by: [[Mateeus, 321991], [Rotten, 491896]]
- Grammar checked by: [[antemortem, 192841]]

 

[Mateeus]

Ferrothorn

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[SET]
name: Defensive (Steel)
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Protect
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Spikes
item: Leftovers
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SpD (Lives a Focus Blast from Landorus at full health 15/16 times, isn't 2HKOed by CB Exca, and retains a 50% survival chance versus Mega Gallade's CC; I think this spread is better for NatDex as other teammates are able to check Mega Gallade better, and Landorus is as annoying as ever if not more)

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferrothorn is a great defensive pivot for Steel teams because of its excellent defensive typing, which packs a valuable resistance to Water- and Electric-type attacks, bulk, and ability to provide hazards for the team. Leech Seed is Ferrothorn's main form of recovery and passive damage on opposing Pokemon. With Protect, Ferrothorn gets an extra turn of Leech Seed and Leftovers recovery and the ability to scout Choice users like Diggersby and Blacephalon. (more relevant examples than Mamoswine, also removed the HJK part because M-Lop doesn't even use it anymore, and Cinderace just Pyro Balls anyways). Power Whip is Ferrothorn's only attacking move, hitting Ground and Water-types for great damage; it OHKOes Mega Swampert, Seismitoad, and Gastrodon, while still hitting others such as Urshifu-R very hard. (Mention Power Whip makes Ferrothorn not as passive, allowing it to deal sizable damage to frailer Pokemon that doesn't resist it like Tapu Lele and Tapu Koko) Finally, Spikes provides hazard support for the team and is a great way to capitalize on other defensive Pokemon that like to switch into Ferrothorn, such as Toxapex. The EV spread gives Ferrothorn enough Special Defense to live a Focus Blast from Landorus most of the time, with the rest going into Defense to increase its overall effectiveness against physical threats like Choice Band Excadrill and Zeraora.

Every Pokemon on Steel teams enjoys Ferrothorn's ability to pivot into most attackers and set up Spikes to wear down the opposing team. Flying-types like Celesteela, Skarmory, and Corviknight (mention the said Flying-types are able to switch into Fighting-types for Ferrothorn like Terrakion and Mega Gallade) particularly enjoy Ferrothorn being able to check threatening Electric-types such as Tapu Koko. (removed the defensive cores part since you're talking about what Ferrothorn does to other 'mons and vice-versa, not focusing on other teammates) Heatran is also one of the best partners for Ferrothorn, as it can pivot into Fire attacks that usually greatly threaten Ferrothorn and beat opposing Steel-types, like Skarmory, that wall Ferrothorn due to its coverage. (add that, in return, Ferrothorn is able to switch into Water-type attacks for Heatran and check Water-types) Aegislash is another partner that helps with Ferrothorn's weaknesses, as it is immune to Fighting-type attacks, and prevent Rapid Spin from removing Ferrothorn's Spikes. Due to its typing, bulk, and ability to setup, Mega Scizor can also help check certain Fighting and Ground-types (such as?), although it is threatened by similar Pokemon as Ferrothorn because of the shared Fire weakness. In return, Mega Scizor appreciates Spikes support from Ferrothorn as it makes it much easier to sweep with Bullet Punch later in the game. Z-Happy Hour Jirachi and Bisharp are other similar late-game sweepers that appreciate Ferrothorn's Spikes support and chip damage. Magnezone makes for a decent partner for Ferrothorn as well, since it can remove opposing Steel-types like Celesteela, which can threaten Ferrothorn with Flamethrower, and opposing Ferrothorn, which can try to set up its own hazards.

- Add Excadrill as a partner that's able to revenge kill the Fire-types that threaten Ferrothorn; in return, mention it appreciates Ferrothorn's Water resist and its Spikes support to clean late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Steel
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Ferrothorn can run Stealth Rock instead of Spikes if no other Pokemon on the team has it or it is paired with Skarmory, which can set up its own Spikes. However, they are usually better Stealth Rock users. Knock Off, Toxic, and Thunder Wave are options that have a lot of utility and can annoy many of Ferrothorn's switch-ins but running one of these moves forces Ferrothorn to forgo one of its other valuable move slots.

Checks and Counters
===================

Steel
--------
**Fire-types and Coverage**: Because of Ferrothorn's quadruple weakness to Fire, it gets OHKOed by most STAB Fire-type attacks. Even Pokemon with common Fire-type coverage moves such as Nidoking (OHKO example) or Clefable can OHKO or 2HKO Ferrothorn.

**Fighting-types and Coverage**: Although Ferrothorn is not as weak to Fighting-types as it is to Fire-types, many Fighting-types such as Keldeo and Galarian Zapdos can threaten it with an OHKO. Ferrothorn can use Protect to scout choiced sets of these Pokemon, however (Urshifu can bypass Protect). Breloom is particularly threatening as it does not fear any attack from Ferrothorn and can even set up Swords Dance. Ferrothorn also must be wary of Fighting-type coverage moves such as Focus Blast from Tapu Lele.

**Stallbreakers**: As Ferrothorn is a very passive Pokemon, certain stallbreakers (removed Mega Sableye as it's not a stallbreaker) such as Gliscor and Spectrier can easily take advantage of it, although Spectrier and similarly frail stallbreakers such as Urshifu-R will not want to switch in directly and risk a Leech Seed or Power Whip, at least.

**Magnet Pull**: Magnezone and the rarer Alolan Golem can trap Ferrothorn and get rid of it with either HP Fire or Fire Punch, respectively, so they must be played around carefully. (mention Alolan Golem needs to be wary of Power Whip)

- Add "Mega Sableye" as it's own bullet (able to easily shrug a pwhip, can bounce back everything else)
- Add "Wallbreakers" as a bullet as well (Galarian Moltres, Specs Pelipper, Mega Garchomp... that are able to overpower through Ferrothorn)

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Felines, 290520]]
- Steel analysis by: [[Felines, 290520]]
- Quality checked by: [[Mateeus, 321991], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]

QC 1/2 once applied. Just c/p, unbold the additions, do the listed changes, and remove comments for an easy application. Great job!

 

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Ferrothorn

[SET]
name: Defensive (Steel)
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Protect
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Spikes
item: Leftovers
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferrothorn is a great defensive pivot for Steel teams because of its excellent defensive typing, which packs a valuable resistance to Water- and Electric-type attacks, good bulk, and ability to provide entry hazards for the team. Leech Seed is Ferrothorn's main form of recovery and inflicts passive damage on opposing Pokemon [mention what foes Ferrothorn can use Leech Seed on like Toxapex]. With Protect, Ferrothorn gets an extra turn of Leech Seed and Leftovers recovery and the ability to scout Choice users like Diggersby, Mamoswine, and Blacephalon. Power Whip is Ferrothorn's only attacking move, hitting Ground and Water-types for great damage; it OHKOes Mega Swampert, Seismitoad, and Gastrodon, while still hitting others such as Urshifu-R, Excadrill, and Keldeo very hard. It also makes Ferrothorn less passive in general, as it can hit frail offensive threats like Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele hard. Finally, Spikes provides hazard support for the team and is a great way to capitalize on other defensive Pokemon that like to switch into Ferrothorn, such as Toxapex. The EV spread gives Ferrothorn enough Special Defense to live a Focus Blast from Landorus most of the time, with the rest going into Defense to increase its overall effectiveness against physical threats like Choice Band Excadrill and Zeraora.

Every Pokemon on Steel teams enjoys Ferrothorn's ability to pivot into most attackers Water- and Electric-types and set up Spikes to wear down the opposing team. Flying-types like Celesteela, Skarmory, and Corviknight can switch into Fighting-types like Mega Gallade for Ferrothorn and also enjoy Ferrothorn being able to check threatening Electric- and Water-types such as Tapu Koko [add a water-type example here like Kingdra]. Heatran is also one of the best partners for Ferrothorn, as it can pivot into Fire attacks that usually greatly threaten Ferrothorn and beat opposing Steel-types, like Skarmory, that wall Ferrothorn due to its coverage. In return, Ferrothorn can switch into Water-types and Water-type attacks [leaving it to water-type attacks is fine imo] that would threaten Heatran. Aegislash is another partner that helps with Ferrothorn's weaknesses, as it is immune to Fighting-type attacks, and prevents Rapid Spin from removing Ferrothorn's Spikes. Due to its typing, bulk, and ability to setup, Mega Scizor can also help check certain Fighting-types such as Mega Lopunny, although it is threatened by similar Pokemon as Ferrothorn because of the shared Fire weakness . In return, Mega Scizor appreciates Spikes support from Ferrothorn as it makes it much easier to sweep with Bullet Punch later in the game. Z-Happy Hour Jirachi and Bisharp are other similar late-game sweepers that appreciate Ferrothorn's Spikes support and chip damage. Jirachi's Psychic typing makes it a good answer to troublesome Fighting-types like Keldeo and Kommo-o, while Bisharp can take on Psychic- and Ghost-types such as Latias, Aegislash, and Latios. Magnezone makes for a decent partner for Ferrothorn as well, since it can trap and remove opposing Steel-types like Celesteela, which can threaten Ferrothorn with Flamethrower, and opposing Ferrothorn, which can try to set up its own hazards. Excadrill can revenge kill the Fire-types that threaten Ferrothorn [like?] and appreciates Ferrothorn's Water resist and its Spikes support to clean late-game [add that it provides a secondary way to deal with electric-types as well].


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Steel
--------
Ferrothorn can run Stealth Rock instead of Spikes if no other Pokemon on the team has it or it is paired with Skarmory, which can set up its own Spikes. However, they are usually better Stealth Rock users it is outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Heatran. Knock Off, Toxic, and Thunder Wave are options that have a lot of utility and can annoy many of Ferrothorn's switch-ins but running one of these moves forces Ferrothorn to forgo one of its other valuable move slots [mention what each of these moves do. knock off removes items like eviolite from porygon2, toxic cripples switch-ins like x and y, and thunder wave is really nice for crippling fast threats like cinderace, volcarona, etc.].

Checks and Counters
===================

Steel
--------
**Fire-types and Coverage**: Because of Ferrothorn's quadruple weakness to Fire, it gets OHKOed by most STAB Fire-type attacks. Even Pokemon with common Fire-type coverage moves such as Nidoking or Clefable can OHKO or 2HKO Ferrothorn.

**Fighting-types and Coverage**: Although Ferrothorn is not as weak to Fighting-types as it is to Fire-types, many Fighting-types such as Keldeo and Galarian Zapdos can threaten it with an OHKO. Ferrothorn can use Protect to scout choiced sets of these Pokemon, however. Breloom is particularly threatening as it does not fear any attack from Ferrothorn and can even set up Swords Dance in front of it. Ferrothorn also must be wary of Fighting-type coverage moves such as Focus Blast from Tapu Lele.

**Stallbreakers**: As Ferrothorn is a very passive Pokemon, certain stallbreakers such as Gliscor easily take advantage of it, although frail stallbreakers such as Urshifu-R will not want to switch in directly and risk a Leech Seed or Power Whip, at least.

**Magnet Pull**: Magnezone and the rarer Alolan Golem can trap Ferrothorn and get rid of it with either Hidden Power Fire or Fire Punch, respectively, so they must be played around carefully. Alolan Golem must be wary of Power Whip, though.

**Mega Sableye**: Mega Sableye can bounce back most of Ferrothorn's moves status moves in Spikes and Leech Seed and can easily shrug off a Power Whip, especially when Ferrothorn is burned by a potential foe like Galarian Corsola.

**Wallbreakers**: Certain wallbreakers such as Choice Specs Pelipper, Galarian Moltres, and Mega Garchomp can overpower through Ferrothorn even with Leech Seed recovery. Galarian Moltres can even set up on Ferrothorn freely, although it does have to be cautious of a potential status move being worn down by Leech Seed or potentially being crippled by Toxic and Thunder Wave.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Felines, 290520]]
- Steel analysis by: [[Felines, 290520]]
- Quality checked by: [[Mateeus, 321991], [Rotten, 491896]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]

QC 2/2 once implemented

 

[antemortem]

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[SET]
name: Defensive (Steel)
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Protect
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Spikes
item: Leftovers
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferrothorn is a great defensive pivot for Steel teams because of its excellent defensive typing, which packs a valuable resistance to Water- and Electric-type attacks, good bulk, and ability to provide entry hazards for theits team. Leech Seed is Ferrothorn's main form of recovery and inflicts passive damage on opposing Pokemonthreats such as Toxapex. With Protect, Ferrothorn gets an extra turn of Leech Seed and Leftovers recovery and the ability to scout Choice item users like Diggersby, Mamoswine, and Blacephalon. Power Whip hits Ferrothorn's only attacking move, hitting GroundGround-(add hyphen) and Water-types; for great damageit OHKOes Mega Swampert, Seismitoad, and Gastrodon, while still hitting others such aand heavily damages Urshifu-R, Excadrill, and Keldeo very hard. It also makes Ferrothorn less passive in general, as it can hit frail offensive threats like Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele hard. Finally, Spikes provides hazard support for the team and is a great way to capitalize on other defensive Pokemon that like to switch into Ferrothorn, such as Toxapex. (do you have another example since you already mentioned Toxapex once?) The EV spread gives Ferrothorn enough Special Defense to livewithstand a Focus Blast from Landorus most of the time, with the rest going intoand enough Defense to increase its overall effectiveness against physical threats like Choice Band Excadrill and Zeraora.

Every Pokemon on a Steel teams enjoys benefits from Ferrothorn's ability to pivot into most Water- and Electric-types and set up Spikes to wear down the opposing team. Flying-types like Celesteela, Skarmory, and Corviknight can switch into Fighting-types like Mega Gallade for Ferrothorn and also enjoy. In return, they gain from Ferrothorn being able to checking threatening Electric- and Water-type(redundant) threats such as Tapu Koko and Kingdra. Heatran is also one of the best partners for Ferrothorn, as it can pivots into Fire-type attacks that usually greatly threaten Ferrothorn and beat opposing Steel-types, like Skarmory, that wall Ferrothorn due to its coveragelike Skarmory. In return, Ferrothorn can then switches into Water-type attacks that would threatein Heatran’s stead. Aegislash is another partner thatalso helps with Ferrothorn's weaknesses, as it is immune to Fighting-type attacks, and prevents Rapid Spin from removing Ferrothorn's Spikes. Due to its typing, bulk, and ability to set up, Mega Scizor can also help checks certain Fighting-types such as Mega Lopunny. In return, Mega Scizor appreciates excels with Spikes support from Ferrothorn, as it becomes that makes it much easier to sweep with Bullet Punch later in the game. Z-Happy Hour Jirachi and Bisharp are other similar late-game sweepers that appreciatere capitalize off of Ferrothorn's Spikes support and chip damage. Jirachi's Psychic typing makes it a good answer to troublesome Fighting-types like Keldeo and Kommo-o, while Bisharp can takes on Psychic- and Ghost-type foes such as Latias, Aegislash, and Latios. Magnezone makes for a decent partner for Ferrothorn atraps well, since it can trap and removes opposing Steel-types like Celesteela, which can threatens Ferrothorn with Flamethrower, and opposing Ferrothorn, which can trmay to set up its own entry hazards. Scarf Excadrill can revenge thekill kills Fire-types that threaten Ferrothorn like Blacephalon and, provides a secondary check to Electric-types, while ppreciatingand pairs well with Ferrothorn's resistance to Water-types and its Spikes support tofor cleaning up late-game.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Steel
--------
Ferrothorn can run Stealth Rock instead of Spikes if no other Pokemon on the team has it or it is paired with Skarmory, which can set up its own Spikes. However, it is outclassed as a Stealth Rock setter by Heatran. Knock Off, Toxic, and Thunder Wave are options that have a lot of utility and can annoy disadvantage many of Ferrothorn's switch-ins. s but running one of these moves forces Ferrothorn to forgo one of its other valuable move slot Knock Off can removes valuable items such as Eviolite from Porygon2,; Toxic cripples certain bulky switch-ins such as Torkoal, Kyurem, and Landorus-Therian, and; Thunder Wave cripples fast threats such as Cinderace and Volcarona. It should be noted that running one of these moves forces Ferrothorn to forgo one of its other valuable move slots.

Checks and Counters
===================

Steel
--------
**Fire-types and Coverage**: Because of Ferrothorn's quadruple4x weakness to Fire, it gets OHKOed by most STAB Fire-type attacks. Even Pokemon with common Fire-type coverage moves such as Nidoking or Clefable can OHKO or 2HKO Ferrothorn.

**Fighting-types and Coverage**: Although Ferrothorn is not as weak to Fighting-types as it is to Fire-types, many Fighting-types such as Keldeo and Galarian Zapdos can threaten it with anto OHKO it. Ferrothorn can, however, use Protect to scout choiced setswhich of these Pokemon, however are using Choice sets. Breloom is particularly threatening, as it doeis not fearvulnerable to any attack from Ferrothorn and can even set up Swords Dance in front of it. Ferrothorn also must be wary of Fighting-type coverage moves such as Focus Blast from Tapu Lele.

**Stallbreakers**: As Ferrothorn is a very passive Pokemon, certain stallbreakers such as Gliscor easily take advantage of it, although frail stallbreakers such as Urshifu-R will not want to switch in directly and risk a Leech Seed or Power Whip, at least.

**Magnet Pull**: Magnezone and the rarerless common Alolan Golem can trap Ferrothorn and get rid of it with either Hidden Power Fire or Fire Punch, respectively, so they must be carefully played around carefully., though Alolan Golem mustshould be wary of Power Whip, though.

**Mega Sableye**: Mega Sableye can bounces back Ferrothorn's status moves in Spikes and Leech Seed and can easily shrug off atanks Power Whip, especially whenafter Ferrothorn is burned by a potential foe like Galarian Corsola.

**Wallbreakers**: Certain wallbreakers such as Choice Specs Pelipper, Galarian Moltres, and Mega Garchomp can overpower through Ferrothorn even with Leech Seed recovery. Galarian Moltres can even sets up on Ferrothorn freely, although it does have to be cautious of being worn down by Leech Seed or potentially being crippled by Toxic andor Thunder Wave.