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First OU Team (SLAKING)

llama.101

I've just been introduced to competitive pokemon and this is my first team. Sorry for any stupid things ive said, but please rate.

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Swampert (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/216 Def/52 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Stealth Rock

Swampert is a great lead. I get down stealth rock most times, and it is also great for taking attacks. Ice Beam is great for countering dragons, and surf is a great STAB attack. Earthquake can take out Infernape and many other common leads.


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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Crunch

Lucario is a recent addition to my team and it's great. One swords dance and it is extremely strong. It is the standard set and this something i'd like to improve as it is so common, so any suggestions would be valued.

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Slaking (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Truant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Return
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
- Thunderpunch

Despite only being able to move once every two turns, Slaking is a BEAST. Godlike attack stats. With Choice Band Return OHKOs ANYTHING that doesn't resist. Slaking forces a lot of switches so Pursuit covers that. Thunderpunch for bulky waters and Earthquake offers good coverage. It can be a problem as it is easy to set up on, but despite that, it is fantastic.

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Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 64 Atk/192 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Nasty Plot
- Fire Blast
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot

I just replaced my Machamp with this guy and i'm loving him. I was debating whether to run a MixApe or this NPape but something about NPape appeals to me. Grass Knot offers great coverage on Infernape's weakness to water.

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Cresselia (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Reflect
- Moonlight
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave

Cresselia is a great defensive supporter. Thunder wave is good for speedy pokes such as weavile and infernape, and ice beam can ohko many dragons.

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Weavile (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard
- Brick Break
- Night Slash

Weavile is my main counter to Ghosts. I had a Gengar problem (Scizor countered it but i needed more) and Weavile is excellent. It outspeeds all ghosts in OU and OHKOs most with night slash.

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Yeah so please ratteee
 
Just some small notes; Why run Focus Sash on Swampert? Use Leftovers since you run Standard EV's. Slaking is also a dead weight on this team, you really need a heavy Sp.Attacker. I reccomend:
Shaymin @ Choice Specs/ Choice Scarf
- Seed Flare
- Earthpower
- Hidden Power Ice/Fire
- Air Slash

Other than that, it seems pretty solid.
 
DragonPawnch: I'm assuming that Shaymin you suggested is Sky Forme? Or does Land Forme retain Air Slash if it learns it via Level-Up while in Sky Forme? If it is the Sky Forme you suggest, then that would make this team an Uber team rather than an OU team like he tried to make.

Llama.101: The team does look solid. Something about having two Set-Up sweepers with the Life Orb makes me think about how you intend for them to work. It sounds like they have been working, which is good, but a NPApe and a SDLuke, both with Life Orb, being naturally frail Pokemon...those two won't be surviving much, and the Life Orb certainly doesn't make setting up (and using the stat boosts) any easier.

Also, you have one Dragon Resist on this team (Lucario, and he won't be lasting too long).

As per your Cresselia, you mention it's a good check for Weavile...Night Slash will still do decent damage unless you set up Reflect first, even though you'd probably be better off to ThunderWave first. You'd then have to SPAM Moonlight (with its maximum of 8PP, 4 with Weavile's Pressure) until it gets fully paralyzed before you set up a reflect. Then, once all that's done, your one attack can't hit it, which means you'll switch. It just seems like there are a few things you need to think about more. If I can come up with examples soon, I'll ammend this post with them.
 
DragonPawnch said:
Just some small notes; Why run Focus Sash on Swampert? Use Leftovers since you run Standard EV's. Slaking is also a dead weight on this team, you really need a heavy Sp.Attacker. I reccomend:
Shaymin @ Choice Specs/ Choice Scarf
- Seed Flare
- Earthpower
- Hidden Power Ice/Fire
- Air Slash

I disagree. I find that weavile isn't doing anything for the team. You could replace it with a specs Alakazam:

4hp/252sp.atk/252speed: (Timid/Modest)
Psychic
Trick/HP fire/Ice
Signal Beam
Focus Blast

Also, if you are using slaking, and he is losing a turn anyway, then use Giga Impact as well!





Other than that, it seems pretty solid.
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That is terrible advice because using Giga Impact means that you can't switch out after you use it. This gives any Ghost / Rock / Steel type or something with Substitute a free set up.

Also, Specs Alakazam just does not hold up in the OU Metagame. Psychic is a very poor attacking type and being locked into it means TTar gets a free set up (DDTar) or gets a free kill (CB Tar Pursuit). In addtion, Scizor becomes a problem since it can Pursuit, BP, or set up if SD variant. Focus Blast is a terrible move to depend on since Zam is not at all bulky and can't afford to miss. If you want a fast specs user, Specs Jolteon would be so much better IMO.
 
Not really a rate but things to point out:

- I'm pretty sure the land forme gets Air Slash (it retains it from Sky forme)

- Moonlight would still have 8pp because it affects the user and not Weavile

- Return > Giga Impact because Slaking needs to switch to a counter against set up sweepers such as Gyarados. For example, The physically bulky Starmie set can survive a +1 Earthquake (with Slaking switching out as it boosts) but it cannot survive a +2 Earthquake (With Slaking loafing and then switching out).

For your first competitive team this looks pretty solid, I might get back with a full rate later.
 
As said before,you should get rid of the sash on pert and use leftovers instead.
Lucario is a great pokemon,but you should try Stone Edge over Crunch, to clean up stallteams,since Defensive gyaras are quite common. This tieam can have troubles with specstran,so I think you should try curselax over slaking,snorlax can curse up and force heatrans and ghost types to switch.As last, weavile is a quite useless pokemon in this metagame because of scizor. Maybe a scarfed Heatran over it?

Hope this ''advice'' has been useful
 
id replace slaking with flygon or a mixed mance slaking could be great and hopefully in the next gen they will improve him with some personal moves, but for now, steer clear.

but quite good apart from that

PLz come rate my team!
 
I think his team is centered around slaking. Why would he replace it.

You should like everybody else said replace the sash on swampert. Its rarely going to be OHKOed by anything aside from a solarbeam from a sunnyday team, energy ball, or leafstorm. all of which are easy to see coming.

You can remove night slash from weavile. plenty of other good moves. pursuit is sixty power anyways right? (If its 40 forgive me)

Also every team needs a good exploder. no suggestions from me.
 
hey thanks for the rates
im not going to take slaking out of this team, he is actually a real asset. im going to make another team without it though.
thanks minato, ill give stone edge a try.
and yeah the leftovers thing i forgot to update, id fixed that on shoddy already.
thanks and ill have a new team up soon.
 
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