First RMT (OU)

[baffled]

Well please excuse the lack of variation in my team, it is my first and has won me around 5 matches with 2 losses. I was never a big battler untill I found out about smogon, and well I am sorta hooked..

Onwards to my team:
At a glance

Team Starter- Swapert@Leftovers​

Simple Swampert standard build, made to SR and move on unless he can get a shot in on a weaker starter. He is invaluable against any focus sash suicide starter and takes any Aero out in 2 hits.
Moves/ EV -240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA
Relaxed
~ Earthquake
~ Roar
~ Hydro Pump
~ Stealth Rock

The addition of Roar has helped me to counter ninjask and Smeargle general baton pass builds which were walking all over my team.

Special Sweeper Azel@Choice Specs

Azelf is my most recent addition to the team. He is a special sweeper with a large movepool which makes him more flexiable. He carries multiple counters and and his Choice specs help him deal out high damage hits. He retains trick from my last Alakazam and his flame thrower and grassknot help with new counters I have experienced during my most recent battles.
Naive
Moves /EVs- 35 Atk/222 Spd/ 252 SpA
~ Psychic
~ Flame Thrower
~ Grassknot
~ Trick

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Team Tank Snorlax@Leftovers

Standard Curse Lax, I keep finding him less and less useful. With my newest changes to this ever growing team he finds himself facing Fighting attacks on his second turn and my need to switch him forces another team mate to take a hit. He breaks the good synergy this team has, and needs to go asap. I still sweep with him on occasion that a fighting pokemon is defeated beggining to mid game.
Moves/ EV -168 HP / 120 Def / 220 SpD
Careful
~ Curse
~ Return
~ Rest
~ Earthquake

Latias@ChoiceScarf

The addition of Latias was sparked by a fellow players realization that Flygon is not as usefull as Latias on this team. This switch is derived from Latias' ability to stop mence and gyarados from completely stopping this team after 1 turn while having generally better or the same damage outputs, much more bulk, and always-outrunning base 100s. Draco Meter is his base move and its high damage also outweights the usefulness of Outragedue to its lack of dependency.

Moves/ EV -252 SpA / 4 HP / 252 Spe
Modest
~ Thunder Bolt
~ Draco Meter
~ Surf~HP Fighting

Scizor@Choice Band

Still learning how to use my Sciz, I added Pursuit to take off a Gengar threat. He is mostly an endgame entity unless I pull him out first. I till need to refine my skills with him. His ability to U-turn in beggining and middle game help to add to his scouting abilities. \He doesn't have the skills of a true Revenge killer but I have sweeped with him in the past.
Moves/ EV -32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Adamant
~ Pursuit
~ Bullet Punch
~ Superpower
~ U-turn

Vaporeon@LeftOvers

Nothing on my team fears SR, so RS isn't absolutely needed if I don't give free turns to let 2+ spikes on your side. I realized this and quickly replaced my starmie with Vaporeon. Wish supports the "semi-bulky" attitude of this team better than countering some gyara sets, and having trouble with others or if damaged at all beforehand. This also opens the option of replacing Pert as a lead, at which point I would end up with a totally new team.
Moves/ EV -188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Bold
~ Wish
~ Surf
~ Protect
~ HP Electric


My current fears are Ninjask/Marowak teams being that I can't taunt them and they easily beat me once my Flygon runs out of firepunches. Who can I fit taunt on? My team also struggles against Celebi on a Sand Storm team, because it has free reign against my team after dropping Flygon.
This weakness was fixed through the addition of roar to my pert. He just pushes Ninjask out of the way ;3


Whew
I honestly had no idea what to expect making my first RMT and I cannot thank anyone enough for posting in this thread or just PMing me. This thread should have been locked, and I was not ready to create such a thread when I did so. This team came in as a weak un sorted first team, ndhas semi emerged as an entire new team built soley by my pokemon peers. I do not deserve acess to such great critque and I feel blessed by the time and effeort everyone who attributed to the team thus far. What I am trying to say is thank you for the great indepth help!
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[Aiklap]

Quite a well thought out team, a few recomedations;

1.return insted of body slam on Curselax - the extra power will be better and with -3 speed, even if they do get para, they will still be faster than snorlax

2. I wouldn't use such a bulky spread on Starmie, it will proberly find more sp.att ev's more useful, and will never be bulky enough to suvive most CB stab attacks. If you want a bulky water, use Suicune/Vaproeon.

3. You might want to try u-turn on scizor

these are just some ideas, overall, a good offensive team.

 

[sk8freaker]

Pretty nice team there!
Instead of Porygon Z you can use
Alakazam@ Choice Specs
Synchronize
Timid
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Psychic
Focus blast
Signal beam
Trick
It hit harder than Porygon and it can cripple pokemons like Blissey, Vapereon and more with Trick.
And for Scizor, use U-Turn or X-Scissor instead of Pursuit as Pursuit doesn't hit many pokemon that hard unless it has Choice Band.
Hope I helped.

 

[~Golden Emp]

Emm....pretty nice team, but....what are the natures?

And give Swampert Surf instead of HP, it misses a lot compared to Surf.

 

[baffled]

Figured id mass respond.

Quite a well thought out team, a few recomedations;

1.return insted of body slam on Curselax - the extra power will be better and with -3 speed, even if they do get para, they will still be faster than snorlax

2. I wouldn't use such a bulky spread on Starmie, it will proberly find more sp.att ev's more useful, and will never be bulky enough to suvive most CB stab attacks. If you want a bulky water, use Suicune/Vaproeon.

3. You might want to try u-turn on scizor

these are just some ideas, overall, a good offensive team.

Didn't notice how spread my starmie was, just took the base off of smogon. I thought about suicune, but I don't think he carries thunderbolt. U turn is not great for my buil refer to post below. Asfar as return goes, I belive that has recoil, and does it paralyze like Body slam?

Pretty nice team there!
Instead of Porygon Z you can use
Alakazam@ Choice Specs
Synchronize
Timid
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Psychic
Focus blast
Signal beam
Trick
It hit harder than Porygon and it can cripple pokemons like Blissey, Vapereon and more with Trick.
And for Scizor, use U-Turn or X-Scissor instead of Pursuit as Pursuit doesn't hit many pokemon that hard unless it has Choice Band.
Hope I helped.

Truth here but often a gengar can 2 shot me before I can kill him. using pursuit is my only 0hko to Gengar. I used to use an alakazm but that leaves me open to a dragon sweep since Porygon-Z is my main dragon counter.

Emm....pretty nice team, but....what are the natures?

And give Swampert Surf instead of HP, it misses a lot compared to Surf.

I used to roll surf but id rather take focus bandes down to nothing first hit, then SR. Especially Aero. But I might try the variation and report back on how it does. as far as natures go, ill post them right now ;3

 

[Staraptor Call]

Scizor should always use the Choice Band set instead of the SD set on a team like this. Due to how it's countered by most Bulky Waters and by Zapdos, Skarmory, and Rotom-A, SD Scizor will waste you too many turns where the opponent switches to a counter while you SD, and then you have to switch out.

 

[baffled]

Scizor should always use the Choice Band set instead of the SD set on a team like this. Due to how it's countered by most Bulky Waters and by Zapdos, Skarmory, and Rotom-A, SD Scizor will waste you too many turns where the opponent switches to a counter while you SD, and then you have to switch out.

K, I will switch.

 

[baffled]

Updated ;#

 

[mc2094]

Your running the wrong EVs on cb scizor. It is meant to be bulky so use 248 hp/ 252 atk/ 8 spd with adamant or 176 hp/ 252 atk/ 80 SDef with adamant in order to be able to take a +1 surf comming from lati with less trouble. Pursuit over X-Scizoors as it is one of scizors most threatining moves when used correctly. I don't think you realize that Flygon is NOT fast without choice scarf. It really should be run over cb as scizor already has it. Use 4 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spd with jolly in order to outrun opposing sarfgons as well as ddmence with 308 or less speed and scarfjirachi. U-turn-EQuake-Outrage-Stone Edge is usually the best set to run. You will be scouting more time than attacking and stone edge allows you to deal some decent damage to gyara. Seriously, three choice poke. Just because one has trick doesn't allow you to ignore that you may end up attacking with him rather than tricking. I'd much rather prefer someone like gengar. Run a sub set with shadow ball and hp fire to bait scizor( who is deadly right now) and use either focus punch or explosion. Focus punch allows you to deal with bliss while explosion helps against stall. He also bring in a much needed fighting immunity as you currently have no one who will be able to take multiple CCs from infernape and lucario. Leadpert usually wants roar rather than ice beam because you won't be hitting much with it and roar can allow for some phazing. I do see a few problems with your synergy. Oh and on a smaler note you seem to have some of your counters wrong. Alakazam can't switch-in easily against gengar and lucario OHKOs with extremespeed. And if you are going to put up future rmts then please use the standard format because your current one is very hard on the eyes and is part of the reason I'm not going in depth with my rate. GL

 

[baffled]

Your running the wrong EVs on cb scizor. It is meant to be bulky so use 248 hp/ 252 atk/ 8 spd with adamant or 176 hp/ 252 atk/ 80 SDef with adamant in order to be able to take a +1 surf comming from lati with less trouble. Pursuit over X-Scizoors as it is one of scizors most threatining moves when used correctly. I don't think you realize that Flygon is NOT fast without choice scarf. It really should be run over cb as scizor already has it. Use 4 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spd with jolly in order to outrun opposing sarfgons as well as ddmence with 308 or less speed and scarfjirachi. U-turn-EQuake-Outrage-Stone Edge is usually the best set to run. You will be scouting more time than attacking and stone edge allows you to deal some decent damage to gyara. Seriously, three choice poke. Just because one has trick doesn't allow you to ignore that you may end up attacking with him rather than tricking. I'd much rather prefer someone like gengar. Run a sub set with shadow ball and hp fire to bait scizor( who is deadly right now) and use either focus punch or explosion. Focus punch allows you to deal with bliss while explosion helps against stall. He also bring in a much needed fighting immunity as you currently have no one who will be able to take multiple CCs from infernape and lucario. Leadpert usually wants roar rather than ice beam because you won't be hitting much with it and roar can allow for some phazing. I do see a few problems with your synergy. Oh and on a smaler note you seem to have some of your counters wrong. Alakazam can't switch-in easily against gengar and lucario OHKOs with extremespeed. And if you are going to put up future rmts then please use the standard format because your current one is very hard on the eyes and is part of the reason I'm not going in depth with my rate. GL

Trying some new sets with my Scizor, and am definitly replacing X-Sciz with Pursuit. I just realized that I had the wrong EVs on my Flygon, and am thinking about replacing him with a Latias. This would also open room to change my opener. I only kept firepunch on my Flygon due to a lack of grass counters on my team. I have made major changes to this team and am going to update it as we speak. I have cheked the stickys and I dont see a certain format that is requested, but I do see that more atention is needed along with more indepth discussion about how the team has grown.

 

[bear]

Im not sure if you would want to use it but I used to run a Quick Attack / Bullet Punch / Swords Dance / U-turn set.

It lets scizor scout in the begining of the match and towords the end SD up and finishing things off with BP and QA it functions suprisingly well with a bulkier spread to SD up in front of things.

 

[baffled]

Im not sure if you would want to use it but I used to run a Quick Attack / Bullet Punch / Swords Dance / U-turn set.

It lets scizor scout in the begining of the match and towords the end SD up and finishing things off with BP and QA it functions suprisingly well with a bulkier spread to SD up in front of things.

After I am done testing my newest build ideas, I will try this too. Thanks! ;D

 

[baffled]

More changes =]

 

[PaidAssassin]

In at a glance, your azelf is at a different spot than in your indepth look. Just a comment.

Mixape can hit 5/6 of your pokes for SE damage:

Swampert-Grass Knot
Snorlax-Close Combat
Scizor-Fire Blast
Latias- Hidden Power [Ice]
Vaporeon-Grass Knot

Nasty Plot versions might not be able to use HP [Ice] but they will ensure the 2KO on vaporeon (if you switch it in)

 

[baffled]

In at a glance, your azelf is at a different spot than in your indepth look. Just a comment.

Mixape can hit 5/6 of your pokes for SE damage:

Swampert-Grass Knot
Snorlax-Close Combat
Scizor-Fire Blast
Latias- Hidden Power [Ice]
Vaporeon-Grass Knot

Nasty Plot versions might not be able to use HP [Ice] but they will ensure the 2KO on vaporeon (if you switch it in)

My default vs Mixape is usually Latias or Azelf. Latias is faster with surf and pet is faster with Eq. Azelf does around 80% with psy as well.