First RMT. UU team (peaked 10th)

[Saria]

Intro​

Hi to everyone, this is my first post here on smogon, but i already have year and a half of experience in competitive pokemon. After playing under different alts in OU i get tired of that metagame and i decided 2 weeks ago to try playing UU. Like a final note here i like to add english isnt my mother language so probably you will find a couple of errors in my writing.

Sorry for what i did before i presed enter by mistake and i posted an imcomplete RMT
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The Team

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Mesprit @ Lum Berry
Ability: Levitate
Evs: 4HP /252Satk /252Spd

Nature: Timid
Psychic
Grass Knot
Thunder Wave
Stealth Rock

Description: I pick mesprit because he have a decent speed, natural bulk, good offensive stats and capable of using stealth rock. He have a good matchup with most lead and after he setup the rocks he is capable of hurting the enemy, not like uxie

Moveset: Psychic is for STAB. Grass Knot for Omastar, Cloyster, Rhyperior, etc. T-wave and Stealth Rock are for team support

Nature, Evs and item: Its simple, nature and evs is for max Spd and Satk. Lum Berry is specially for beating scarf vena lead, jumpluff and the uncommon venomoth

Ninetales @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
Evs: 36HP /252Satk /220Spd
Nature: Timid

Flamethrower/ Fireblast
Energy Ball
Hidden Power (Rock)
Calm Mind

Description: At first look ninetales can be seen completly outclassed by houndoom, but thats not close too be the thruth. Ninetales have a better bulk and superior speed, which make her a good counter for all the other fire types (including Houndoom) who can cause problem too this team

Moveset: Calm Mind is for increasing my power and also help me too take better hits on the special side, after 2 calm mind a Surf from the standard Milotic only take like 30% and i can 2HKO back with energy ball. Flamethrower/Fireblast are for STAB and Energy Ball and HP (Rock) is for coverage

Nature, Evs and item: Tmid nature with 220 allow to outspeed max speed base 95. Max Satk to hit harder and the other in HP for increasing Ninetales bulkyness. Leftovers is for increase of survivality

Rhyperior@ Leftovers
Ability: Rock Solid
Evs: 134HP /252Atk /38Def /84 Spd
Nature: Adamant
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Substitute
Megahorn

Description: This is a variation form the standar Su(b)perior with a little change from the evs. Rhyperior is capable of setup a sub so many times than is not even funny, behind a sub alot of his counters have high changes of end fainted, like torterra, slowbro and tangrowth. He can dismantle unprared stall team all by himself, his only real counter is defensive milotic.

Moveset: Rock Slide and Earthquake, Rock Slide over Stone Edge to avoid being setup fodder for substall moltres and substall articuno, the less power never represent a big issue. Megahorn is for coverage and substitute is for obvious reason

Nature, Evs and item: 134 HP is for 101HP subs. Adamant + max atk is for hiting really hard. 84 spd is for outspeeding minimun speed base 50, like registell, chansey and tangrowth. 38 def is for receiving better iron heads from registeel. Leftovers is for recovering health after using a sub

Toxicroak @ Leftovers
Ability: Dry Skin
Evs: 42HP /252atk /216Spd
Nature: Jolly
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
Substitue
Sucker Punch

Description: I pick toxicroak because his great typing and amazing ability, he is almost a full stop to rain dance team. With his typing and abilty he can setup sub rather easily, and start hiting hard everything ballsy enought to come in. He have the only priority of this team so i have to save him until late game just in case some fast sweeper like swellow start giving me troubles

Moveset: Is a really standar subpunch croak, focus punch for huge base power combined with STAB, sub for avoid hits and use the FP, ice punch for coverage and sucker punch for priority. One note, STAB focus punch hit harder than a superefective ice punch

Nature, Evs and item: Jolly nature with 216 spd ev is for outspeeding max speed base 80, like offensive venasaur, 252 atk is for increase the damage given and 42HP is for more bulkyness. Leftovers is for recover healt taken from the subs

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Evs: 4HP /252Satk /252Spd
Nature: Timid
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Substitute
Calm Mind

Description: Mismagius is here because he is capable of seting up in the face of all the haze less milotic who gives alot of troubles to this team. i didnt pick rotom because his inferior speed and bulk and with that make my team more vulnerable to other mismagius

Moveset: Sub and CM is for the mismagius setup, Shadow Ball is for STAB and Thunderbolt to hit milotic harder and because HP (fighting) make me lose an import speed point

Nature, Evs and item: Timid 252 speed is for outspeeding all the HP (fighting) mismagius and to atleast speed tiying with the other max spd base 105 like scyther. Max Satk to hit harder

Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Ability: Clorophyll
Evs: 44HP /252Satk /212Spd
Nature: Modest
Psychic
Leaf Storm
Sleep Power
Leech Seed

Description: Why this thing is not uu?. This thing hit like a truck from the special side, have good couple of resistance combined with a good physical defense. He is capable of OHKO a good part of the metagame, he also can suppot the team with sleep powder and leech seed, his only letdown is his speed.

Moveset: Psychic and Leaf Storm is for STAB, Sleep powder is to put something to sleep, specially his counter on the swtich, and leech seed allows to exxegutor to beat 2 of his biggest counter (registeel and chansey) in a 1on1

Nature, Evs and item: Modest nature with 252Satk is for make good use of his 125 base Satk, 212spd is for outspeeding minimun speed base 81 by 1 point and the other evs in HP

 

[Saria]

Stealed from legacy raider

Blue may cause problems
Red really problematic

Offensive

Absol - If i let him setup i have problems, most of the time i have to sacrifice something just to kill him with Rhyperior

Aggron - He only can setup on rhyperior if he have magnet rise and all my other team can hurt him alot

Alakazam - He cant OHKO mesprit and mesprit t-wave him, making him useless. Mismagius is not OHKO and OHKO him in return same with ninetales if im using fireblast. Toxicroak can suckerpunch specs/scarf version. Exeggutor can beat version with only psychic and focus blast. Rhyperior survive a life orb focus blast and ko in return

Altaria - All the version are handeled by rhyperior and toxicroak can beat no-DD version with ice punch

Ambipom - A.K.A failbipom. Rhyperior wall him all day, and the weird nasty plot vesion are handeled by mismagius or mesprit

Arcanine - Rhyperior can beat him, but i have to be careful with WoW. Ninetales can switch in the predictable flareblitz hurt him with HP rock surviving with 50%+ the extreme speed and swith to mismagius in the 2nd extremespeed and ko it with shadowball

Azumarill - Exeggutor can beat subpunch version, CB are stop by a combination of toxicroak,exxegutor (water moves) and mismagius (return/double-edge)

Blaziken - Mesprit can OHKO himwith psychic, but if i dont have mesprit i to make him lose enought live to kill him with a shadowball from mismagius or a boosted (Flash Fire) fireblast from ninetales

Drapion - Rhyperior can check all version, ninetales takes 50%+ with fireblast from almost all version a is capable of surviving an earthquake from defensive version. Toxicroak absorb spikes

Dugtrio - He cant come in safely and the only poke he can ko at full health without receiving any damage is ninetales.

Feraligatr - Exenggutor can survive a +1 ice punch from life orb less version, but if he have life orb im in big troubles

Hariyama - Mesprit and Exeggutor

Hitmonlee - Mesprit and Exeggutor.

Hitmontop - Mesprit and Exeggutor. Missmagius block rapid spid

Houndoom - Ninetales

Kabutops - Toxicroak. Exeggutor can survive a +2 stone edge and ko and he dont have a change of setup without being OHKO'ed

Leafeon - Ninetales outspeed and survive a +2 quick attack with stealt rock damage. Mismagius outspeed and OHKO offensive version. Exeggutor can survive everything he can throw at me except the uncommon x-scissor

Ludicolo - Toxicroak. Sword Dance version is beated by exeggutor 100% of the time, even with ice punch.

Magmortar - Ninetales. Mismagius outspeed

Mesprit - Mismagius

Milotic - Mismagius.

Mismagius - Rhyperior can beat her if she dont have a sub up. My own mismagius outspeed hp fight version or i have to prey to win the speed tie. Toxicroak have to make ming games with her. Ninetales take care of defensive version

Moltres - Ninetales setup bait. Mismagius t-bolt

Nidoking - Never seen one but mismagius and ninetales outspeed and can hurt him alot

Omastar - Exeggutor outspeed defensive version. Rain dance offensive version are beated by toxicroak

Poliwrath - Exeggutor

Rhyperior - Same than aggron, he cant setup on anything without receiving alot of damage

Rotom - Mismagius outspeed, rhyperior can setup on scarf version locked in t-bolt and ninetales setup on suppor version

Sceptile - Exeggutor beat physical version, toxicroak and nietales specs version. Leech seed version guarantee atleast a kill per match

Scyther - Steatk Rock. CB version are handeled by toxicroak (x4 bug resistance) and rhyperior. Sword Dance version fail to KO rhyperion

Swellow - Same than with schyter, croak to the predictable u-turn to the others to rhyperior

Torterra - Exeggutor

Toxicroak - Ninetales.

Venusaur - Ninetales

Defensive

Altaria - Rhyperior and Croak.

Blastoise - Exeggutor and Croak can setup on the surf/rapid/protect/support move version.

Chansey - Setup bait for rhyperior and mismagius (being careful with the t-wave)

Claydol - Exeggutor, mismagius and rhyperior behind a sub

Clefable -Encore can thread 4 members of my team, mesprit cant touch her and exeggutor cant 2HkO some versions

Cloyster - Mesprit, mismagius, ninetales

Donphan - Rhyperior behind a sub can outspeed and 2HKO some version. Exxegutor

Hitmontop - Exeggutor and Mismagius.

Lanturn - Exeggutor

Milotic - Exeggutor.

Miltank - Exeggutor

Omastar - Mesprit, ninetales and exeggutor.

Regirock - Mesprit, exeggutor and rhyperior

Registeel - Rhyperior setup bait

Rotom - Ninetales

Slowbro - Mismagius, exeggutor and rhyperior behind a sub outspeed and 2HKO with a combination of megahorn and earthquake

Slowking - same as Slowbro, but rhyperior outspeed and OHKO

Spiritomb - Can trap and kill mesprit and mismagius. Exeggutor OHKO most of spiritomb after a litte prior damage. Rhyperior setup bait

Steelix - Rhyperior, exeggutor and ninetales

Tangrowth - Ninetales. Rhyperior behind a sub can outspeed and have high changes of 2HKO

Torterra - Exeggutor

Uxie - Mismagius and rhyperior can set up on most version

Venusaur - Mismagius, toxicroak and ninetales

Weezing - Ninetales setup bait

 

[Thund91]

Hey. I've fought you with multiple teams on the ladder this round and I found that you were pretty much helpless against my teams that had Alakazam or Mismagius if you gave me just one opportunity to set up (Exeggutor).

SubKazam basically 6-0s this team. Nothing can switch in on Psychic because your resists will just be OHKO'd by Signal Beam the next turn. Rhyperior eats a Focus Blast and Toxicroak isn't a reliable revenge killer because Alakazam will just Substitute on the Sucker Punch, or even worse if you're fighting a CM Encore variant because you're going to let it get to +6.

On to Mismagius. If it sets up a Substitute as you switch Eggy out it's gonna get the Nasty Plot and 6-0 your team. The only thing you can hope for is a speed tie with your Missy and that's not a reliable way to check one of the top special threats in the tier.

Now how do we remedy this problem? I always suggest a Spiritomb for teams that have problems with Missy and Zam, but Mismagius shouldn't be replaced because it's one of your sweepers and helps your team out. I'm not gonna suggest a Spiritomb over anything else either because you only have SR and another spin blocker isn't needed. I'm actually gonna suggest you use a Houndoom over Ninetales, referable the Mixdoom set. Why is that? Houndoom can put both Mismagius and Alakazam in a checkmate position with Pursuit/Sucker Punch while still working off a great Special Attack stat and a great STAB. It basically combines Spiritomb and Ninetales into one Pokemon. I'd go with a different set than the one on-site though, especially since this team seams a bit weak to Fire-types:

Houndoom@Life Orb
Nature:Hasty
Ability:Flash Fire
Ev's:80Atk/176SpA/252Spe
-Pursuit
-Sucker Punch
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Rock / Dark Pulse

The reason I want you to have max Speed is so you can outspeed and OHKO Moltres. It's also your strongest attack against Arcanine and other Houndoom. You may go with Dark Pulse if you want. The reason for more SpA ev's than Attack is because Mismagius and Alakazam are frail defensively, and they're the only reason you're using these attacks. Most other Pokemon will be hit way harder by your STAB Fire Blast.

Houndoom also works as a nice partner with Toxicroak, so it still maintains synergy for your team.

Please do note though that Mismagius and Alakazam can still play around Houndoom if they're good at predicting (and SubKazam is still a major threat) but Houndoom gives you a much better chance at combating them than you can currently, while still maintaining the Fire STAB and typing for your team. If you still have trouble with these Pokemon I suggest running a Spiritomb somewhere though, because these special threats are very common currently (#3 for Missy and #9 for Zam iirc).

 

[The Cicada]

i have to admit this team is very good, since i battled you so much on the UU ladder and failed, just wouldn't be right if i don't compliment this team since i lost to it so much. I can't see anything that needs fixing with the team tho.

 

[Saria]

Hey. I've fought you with multiple teams on the ladder this round and I found that you were pretty much helpless against my teams that had Alakazam or Mismagius if you gave me just one opportunity to set up (Exeggutor).

SubKazam basically 6-0s this team. Nothing can switch in on Psychic because your resists will just be OHKO'd by Signal Beam the next turn. Rhyperior eats a Focus Blast and Toxicroak isn't a reliable revenge killer because Alakazam will just Substitute on the Sucker Punch, or even worse if you're fighting a CM Encore variant because you're going to let it get to +6.

On to Mismagius. If it sets up a Substitute as you switch Eggy out it's gonna get the Nasty Plot and 6-0 your team. The only thing you can hope for is a speed tie with your Missy and that's not a reliable way to check one of the top special threats in the tier.

Now how do we remedy this problem? I always suggest a Spiritomb for teams that have problems with Missy and Zam, but Mismagius shouldn't be replaced because it's one of your sweepers and helps your team out. I'm not gonna suggest a Spiritomb over anything else either because you only have SR and another spin blocker isn't needed. I'm actually gonna suggest you use a Houndoom over Ninetales, referable the Mixdoom set. Why is that? Houndoom can put both Mismagius and Alakazam in a checkmate position with Pursuit/Sucker Punch while still working off a great Special Attack stat and a great STAB. It basically combines Spiritomb and Ninetales into one Pokemon. I'd go with a different set than the one on-site though, especially since this team seams a bit weak to Fire-types:

Houndoom@Life Orb
Nature:Hasty
Ability:Flash Fire
Ev's:80Atk/180SpA/252Spe
-Pursuit
-Sucker Punch
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Rock / Dark Pulse

The reason I want you to have max Speed is so you can outspeed and OHKO Moltres. It's also your strongest attack against Arcanine and other Houndoom. You may go with Dark Pulse if you want. The reason for more SpA ev's than Attack is because Mismagius and Alakazam are frail defensively, and they're the only reason you're using these attacks. Most other Pokemon will be hit way harder by your STAB Fire Blast.

Houndoom also works as a nice partner with Toxicroak, so it still maintains synergy for your team.

Please do note though that Mismagius and Alakazam can still play around Houndoom if they're good at predicting (and SubKazam is still a major threat) but Houndoom gives you a much better chance at combating them than you can currently, while still maintaining the Fire STAB and typing for your team. If you still have trouble with these Pokemon I suggest running a Spiritomb somewhere though, because these special threats are very common currently (#3 for Missy and #9 for Zam iirc).

You are right alakazam can beat all my team. i always have to sacrifice something to avoid him to setup and other of my pokes will receive 70%+ only to kill him. Mismagius is not that hard to beat but he still can become a trouble if i let him get a sub. Im going to try that mixdoom, i think it can work because i still keep the fire imunity a add a psychic imunity and resistance to dark atk . Thnx for the advice

 

[IronBullet]

Hi,

Thund has made a very solid suggestion in MixDoom, but the problem is it still loses to Zam if Houndoom switches into Substitute. So, I'd simply suggest running U-Turn on Mesprit over Thunder Wave. IMO it's more useful for scouting, and easily breaks Alakazam's Sub, allowing you to get Houndoom in safely. It's EV spread does not have to be changed.

If Encore Clefable gives you trouble, you could try out Taunt over Substitute on Missy. This allows you to easily defeat Clefable and Haze Milotic, while still blocking status. It does make it vulnerable to Sucker Punch and Pursuit, so the choice is yours.

Nice team, well done and gl.

 

[kingken77]

Mismagius - Rhyperior can beat her if she dont have a sub up. My own mismagius outspeed hp fight version or i have to prey to win the speed tie. Toxicroak have to make ming games with her. Ninetales take care of defensive version

I feel like the HP fight thing was made for me, haha.

I have fought this team many times and only won 1 time. Rock Blast should go over Rock Slide because it hits hard with a STAB and can break subs and keep on going. Always wrecks my subs...

 

[franky]

Hi Bad Romance,

You have the team built nicely. You seem to have Milotic covered but it can come back to haunt you by maximizing its Speed with a Timid nature and going offensive. Consequently, you might potentially lose your Eggy early in the match. The only suggestion to make is to simply go for a 252/252 spread of Toxicroak. This ultimately ensures that you out pace Milotic no matter what.

You take Thund's advice then you can try out U-turn over Psychic on Mesprit. This is a great move to start off your match as you can easily U-turn from Alakazam in-case it attempts to form a Substitute. You can go to Houndoom and trap it though you need all the prediction to actually take it down at 1 HP left.

As for other options, you'll need to try out a simple Taunt + Nasty Plot on Mismagius over calm Mind and Substitute. This makes your team more useful against stall teams, particularly ones that run clefable. Its something to consider, the SpD loss is not really a big deal since its p. high at the moment. The +2 boost is always nicer and can hit Milotic harder if its HP is low. overall gl.