ORAS Ubers First Ubers Team!

RagTimeJim

Hello folks! Posting my first RMT, looking for feedback on a team I've been testing. Note: this team is for UBERS only - that is, no mons below ubers allowed - no OU, etc.

The team is focused on the raw power of ExtremeKiller Arceus + Primal Groudon.

Without further ado:

Arceus @ Life orb
Ability : Multiplate
Evs : 252 Spe / 252 Atk / 4 hp
Jolly nature
- Swords dance
- Extreme speed
- Shadow claw
- Earthquake

One of the most important members of the team. Physical sweeper with the goal of setting up one SD (potentially as a lead depending on opposing team) and poking serious holes in the opposing team. One of the best candidates for receiving Latias' Healing Wish. Typical Extremekiller set - Shadow Claw and EQ for ghost and steel coverage.

Groudon @ Red Orb
EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch
- Stone Edge

Another potent setup mon, that doesn't necessarily need to set up. Leading with groudon can bluff rocks and set up with a Rock Polish easily, then proceed to blast opponents away with EdgeQuake+Sun Fire Punch coverage. Switching groudon in to take away Kyogre's rain is fairly common, so he is worn down over the course of a match - this makes him another decent recipient of Healing Wish, based on the opposing team. (Originally I used specially defensive Groudon, but his attack is too good to go to waste)

Lugia @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 SpD / 252 Def / 4 HP
Bold Nature
- Roost
- Thunder Wave
- Roar/Whirlwind
- Aeroblast
Wall #1 (mixed). Checks geomancy xerneas, as well as other setup sweepers. Also based on the offensive nature of the team, works as a Parashuffler to gain the speed advantage against the opposing team. Could consider focusing on Sp. defense + HP since there's another defensive mon. I know having defog is important with Multiscale, I assume I should work on a Defog Latias instead of my current?

Kyogre @ Blue Orb
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Scald
- Ice Beam

Wall #2! Kyogre's insane base Sp.D allows for a defensive investment. RestTalk set gives an answer to potential Darkrai Dark Voids, as well as allowing you to come in and tank a physical threat for a while, and potentially burn it with scald (as long as sleep talk actually lets you use a move besides rest xD).

Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 76 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
Timid Nature
- Healing Wish
- Psyshock
- Draco Meteor
- Thunder

All the previous mention of healing wish, here it is! Latias can switch in on Kyogre or Groudon, as well as some others, and do some serious damage. Thunder hits in the rain generated by your own Kyogre, or theirs. You can drop a Draco on an opposing Groudon for some big damage, then make an appropriate switch. Healing wish for all the previous mentions - rebuy your Extremekiller, or Groudon, or heal up one of your walls. (As previously mentioned, I don't have access to a defog Latias but with Lugia on the team, is that the best option? Defog Healing Wish and Psyshock/Draco/Thunder combo?)

Finally: This is where I need your help! My initial thought was

Xerneas @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid/Modest
- Moonblast
- Thunder
- Focus Blast
- __________

Fairy aura moonblast wrecks the dragons I'm concerned with (I will be dealing with mega Rays as well as regulars) as well as hitting for a ton of damage against most mons, while outspeeding off of a scarf. A mixed set might work better with close combat and rock slide, but that's what you guys are for. Functions as a revenge killer as well as a sweeper if you can weaken its checks. I also had considered Scarf Genesect in this slot (either mixed ESpeed Blaze Kick UTurn Iron Head or Ice Beam > Blaze Kick)

I appreciate your responses!
 
Hi! I really like the outline of this team and think that is most definitely a solid team in the current metagame. There are just some few things that I would recommend. The first thing is that Extreme speed Arceus ( A.K.A Ekiller as you will probably hear it called) is best used as a late game sweeper than a lead. Ekiller is very deadly late game once it's checks and counters have been weaknes it removed. I think that you should definitely run defog over thunder on latias. I know that thunder deals some good damage on Kyogre but you have no way of removing hazards which is a big deal. Speaking of Hazards and Kyogre you have no stealth rocks or a real check to primal Kyogre. I would recommend changing Lugia to specially defensive Jirachi. Jirachi provides stealth rocks and a somewhat solid switch in to primal Kyogre. I'm on my phone now so I can't give you a set but I will once I get home. Jirachi also provides thunder wave support just as Lugia did and can even be used with healing wish if you want to keep Latias offensive with three attacks + defog.

Good team and best of luck in the future!
 
Concerning your Xerneas, you're right to say that a mixed one works the best. If you run a Rash one with 76 Atk/248 SpA/184 Spe with Moonblast, Megahorn, Rock Slide, and Sleep Talk, you're able to eat a Dark Void, sleep talk on the Nasty Plot and OHKO with either Megahorn or Moonblast after rocks. It's a much better way to check Darkrai than just having a RestTalk P-Ogre.
 
Thanks for the feedback! I have a very similar xerneas ready to go. Guess I have to look for a defog latias (which I figured would be the case). As much as I want to use Jirachi, tourney is restricted to uber tier only, nothing below lol.

When I bring the team other places, I'll definitely include my Jirachi (looking forward to hearing your set)
 
Hmm do you guys have any recommendations lead-wise (whether it's a different mon or just optimizing one of these to lead)

working on making the previous changes! Also trying to come up with a check for p-Kyogre
 
RagTimeJim said:
Hmm do you guys have any recommendations lead-wise (whether it's a different mon or just optimizing one of these to lead)

working on making the previous changes! Also trying to come up with a check for p-Kyogre
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Hi!For your first question, the most used lead because it works in ubers is deoxys-s. I would recommend the following set. I feel that the best pokemon to switch out for deoxys is kyogre,as Ryan's suggestion of specially defensive jirachi fills kyogre's role on the team.

(Deoxys-Speed) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
- Knock Off


As for the P-Ogre check I believe running P-Blades over Earthquake on your Groudon fixes this problem entirely. Although the accuracy is a risk the payout is great. 252+ Atk Primal Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Primal Kyogre: 301-355 (88 - 103.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
 
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