VGC Florges/Grass Gimmick team

Gaveon

I will start off by saying i do not have high hopes for this team. It is purely for fun and seeing if i can make it work.

I like health drain moves and i wanted to see if i could make a team based around them.
I also wanted to make a team that could make use of Florges

Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP 252SPA
Giga Drain
Sludge Bomb
HP: Fire
Protect
Mega Venusaur is arguably the best Grass type mon in the game. Giga drain is a decent stab that keeps it healthy. Sludge bomb is the other stab mostly for hitting any dragons or flyers that drain cant hit. HP: fire is a little surprise for any steel types that think they can wall my Grass mons. And of course protect for standard doubles tactics.

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Iron Barbs
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP 252 ATk
Power Whip
Gyro Ball
Leech Seed
Protect
Ferrothorn can provide leech seed support healing for the rest of my team. Rock Helmet + Iron Barbs provides very nice recoil damage if i can predict the contact move and switch in, mainly got Mega Khan & talonflame in mind here. Power Whip is for a very strong STAB. Gyro ball provides a better option against gardevoir as Venusaur doesnt like Psychic and some additional coverage.

Chesnaught @ Sitrus Berry
Bulletproof
EV: 252HP 252Atk
Nature:Brave
Wood Hammer
Drain Punch
Quick guard
Spiky Shield
Chesnaught is just a filler at the moment. I felt i needed another grass physical hitter to make Florges more viable. Drain Punch is the main move letting him hit steel types my other grasses cant. Wood hammer is just there if i know ill only have one hit and need extra power, also lets me hit psychics and faeries. Quick guard is to protect against talonflame & Pranksters. Spiky shield for its ability to punich a predicted contact move. Sitrus Berry is only a place holder item till i think of something better.


Florges @ Mental Herb
Flower Veil
EVs: 252HP 252 DEF
Bold
Helping Hand
Safeguard
Moonblast
Protect
I just really wanted to use Florges. Flower Veil protects my Ferro and ches from intimidates, venu from snarl & all 3 from Icy wind. Helping hand provides the power to my partner for OHKOs. As much as i wanted aromatherapy or misty terrain, the amount of people using swagger is really irking me so im opting for safeguard here (i may be mistaken these moves dont stop confusion). And protect is of course for double targeting. Mental Herb is to protect from taunts.

Chandleure @ Focus Sash
Flash Fire
EVS: 252HP 252SPA
Quiet
Heat Wave
Shadow Ball
Trick Room
Protect
Chandleures main purpose is to flash fire switch in on Fire attacks. the 2 stabs provide near perfect coverage. Shadow ball provides my best option of dealing with Aegisslash. Heatwave is just a nice spread move. Trick room is there as an option for speed control as my team is rather slow but i would rather not rely on it.

Talonflame @ Gonan berry
Gale wing
EVS: 252Atk 252Spe
Adamant
Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Natural Gift (ICE)
Will o Wisp
I like natural gift talonflame for its surprise factor. With it talon can easily take out salamence & Garchomp. With a helping hand it can take out Thundurus. though hoping my grass types will scare him off. Brave Bird is there for some priority power. Flare blitz is another option for aegisslash. Will o wisp lets me cripple mega kang or such.

I understand my team is mostly relying on neutral coverage for dragon/Fire/Flying types and probably should replace talonflame and chesnaught atleast.

But any input on the would be appreciated.

Thanks,
 
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Right off the bat I notice 2 big threats in Salamence and Talonflame. Gengar and Aegislash can also be a bit of an issue. For the Venusaur a good spread is 252 HP / 132 Def / 76 SpA / 44 SpD / 4 Spe with a Bold nature. This allows to survive two Specs Sylveon Psyshocks and survive Life Orb Talonflame Brave Bird. A better EV spread for Ferrothorn might be 252 HP / 160 Atk / 84 Def / 12 SpD with the same nature lets you survive Zapdos Heat Wave and Terrakion Close Combat. The other two don't seem too bad. I'd replace Chesnaught with Life Orb Bisharp with the EV spread of 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP and an Adamant nature. This will help you with fairies as well as Aegislash and Gengar. Lastly i would recommend over Talonflame to put Milotic or Suicune with enough SpA to OHKO Mega Salamence without getting KOEd by Double Edge for Bold Suicune it is 212 SpA as for Modest Suicune it is 116 SpA. For Bold Milotic it is 132 SpA as for Modest Milotic it is 36 SpA. Hope I helped :)
 
Thanks for the advice

Those EV Spreads sound better. Thought i might play around with Venu's to see if i can pull off any OHKOs with helping hand.

Your probably right about adding Bisharp, just wanted another grass to justify Florges over more traditional supports

I assumed Talonflame could OHKO mega salamence with intimidated Helping hand 100BP ice natural gift. But seems to be only ~19% chance, so yeah will look into milotic
 
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