ORAS OU Funne(ra)l Cake Sweep Team

Is Raikou necessary on this team or not?


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Slurpuff @ Sitrus Berry

Ability: Unburden

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Naughty Nature

- Belly Drum

- Play Rough

- Drain Punch

- Cotton Guard

This Slurpuff is what sends dragons crying and cowering in fear. This Slurpuff is what puts other sweepers to shame. By using cotton guard, It can safely take a hit and have another turn to set up. It then uses belly drum which gives Slurpuff 4x attack and 2x speed with unburden. Not many Pokémon can do that in a single turn. Slurpuff then proceeds to sweep with play rough and drain punch for recovery and coverage.


Magnezone @ Choice Scarf

Ability: Magnet Pull

EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Naive Nature

- Hidden Power [Fire]

- Explosion

- Flash Cannon

- Volt Switch

I realized that Slurpuff is going to down to just about every single steel type, especially the bulkier neutral steel type pokemon such as Skarmory, Mega-Aggron, Mega-Steelix, Scizor, and maybe even Forretress. The most efficient pokemon to cancel out those pesky steel types is Magnezone, with hp fire. Who expected Explosion? He can explode if needed to take out another mon to make sweeping easier. It also has volt switch to start a voltturn team as well.


Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf

Ability: Intimidate

EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Adamant Nature

- U-turn

- Earthquake

- Knock Off/Stone Edge

- Explosion

Landorus is also a u-turner so I can keep the mind games and frustrating plays going. He is the second steel type counter and poison type counter as well. Flying type which helps with synergy with Magnezone because it is immune to EQ. Another Exploder which is handy and has knock off for utility or stone-edge for coverage, I really don't know what to use. EQ for STAB.

Heatran @ Leftovers

Ability: Flash Fire

EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD

Calm Nature

- Lava Plume

- Stealth Rock

- Roar

- Flash Cannon

Another Pokémon who benefits from the flying type from Landorus-T, Heatran counters Talonflame which is an issue to slurpuff. Stealth Rock breaks sashes which is another problem. He has roar for stall teams and lava plume for burn for physical attackers. I was thinking of running explode, but I went against it. (Can you imagine explode?) I ran it SpD so I can tank special moves which no one else on the team can. Heatran has many resistances so he can easily switch into many attackers safely.

Raikou @ Choice Specs

Ability: Pressure

EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Timid Nature

- Volt Switch

- Hidden Power [Ice]

- Extrasensory

- Shadow Ball

Raikou is another Voltturner with his amazing speed and already decent special attack. Raikou then takes out Landorus-T and Garchomp which is an issue to my team with hp Ice and with some predictions. Raikou takes out flying and water types when Magnezone is down. (which is quite often) However, Raikou is the most expendable member on the team.


Gengar @ Focus Sash

Ability: Levitate

EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Timid Nature

- Shadow Ball

- Sludge Bomb

- Counter

- Destiny Bond

Raise your hands if you expected counter on Gengar, no one right? That is what I'm expecting so I can take down fighting pokemon by switching into it and countering a knock off. He can take out any D-Dance pokemon or any swords dance pokemon easily. He has destiny bond to take out another pokemon out. He doesn't appreciate entry hazards. He can perform as a late game sweeper because his special attack is decent as well. He has another ground immunity which heatran and magnezone both appreciate. Lastly, he has immunity to normal and fighting types, so most priority moves blow right past him.
 
Alright.

So, we have a team built around Slurpuff's sweep. However, even with Unburden, I can see the team getting very annoyed by Rain teams. At base 72 speed, it isn't enough to outspeed Kingdra, or Kabutops. You can try replacing Gengar with Gastrodon, which provides you an immunity. Curse Gastrodon also provides you with a secondary win-con, and acts as a good check to things such as non GK-Metagross (which often carry Bullet Punch as coverage, you don't want Slurpuff taking that), Electric types such as Mega Manectric and Thundurus, etc. I know it looks extremely odd, but give it a try? :)

Given your offensive build, SpD Heatran appears to lose momentum for your team. I suggest you replace this with offensive stallbreaker Heatran. This gives you a chance against stall teams, and allows you to weaken Slurpuff's checks better. Magnezone should run Thunderbolt over Explosion. It is more useful than Explosion, being a stronger STAB move than Volt Switch, which you might want if you don't want to be forced out of Magnezone. Landorus-T will thus have to take on the job of Stealth Rocks. I'll keep Explosion on the set, though I do not think you really need it. Raikou should also run Thunderbolt over Extrasensory, as you have a Heatran that basically hard counters non-EQ Mega Venusaur.
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Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 144 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Curse
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Recover

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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Toxic

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Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]

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Landorus-Therian @ Normal Gem
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 104 Atk / 152 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

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Raikou @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Shadow Ball
 
I see your point with the heatran, but in my opinion, I think raikou does fine for the most part for rain teams and they are seldom used as I go higher up in the ladder. Taunt, however, loses utility because of Heatran's abysmal speed, but I'll give Heatran another shot. :)
 
But Heatran isn't efficient enough to take down ferrothorn and scizor as they switch out on heatran. I may want to try the Azumarill over slurpuff, but that may create more weaknesses for me to cover but I'll try.
 
If I do make the switch to Azumarill, M-Lopunny isn't necessary because water resists steel and belly drum aqua jet OHKO's steel types bar skarmory and scizor
 
I am trying to make a switch to azumarill but then I have to counter grass and electric types as well now. And like dusk raimon said, sash
 
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