Hello, Im just a casual Pokemon player who decided to return to pokemon a couple weeks ago since I got excited from the twitch plays pokemon. I decided that I wanted to build a pokemon from the now released charmander- abby. I decided id try to form a team around Charizar - X since he seemed pretty interesting.
Do not that keeping charizard-x or the dual cores is not a necessity for me so if you find options that would make the team better do give them. Also im very bad at making RMTs so go soft on me, this might very well look absolutely retarded. also if someone would teach me how to make the sprites appear in the post that would be pretty cool.
PLEASE NOTE THAT MY EV SPREADS ARE HORRIBLE AND I NEED WORK WITH THEM!!!
Do not that keeping charizard-x or the dual cores is not a necessity for me so if you find options that would make the team better do give them. Also im very bad at making RMTs so go soft on me, this might very well look absolutely retarded. also if someone would teach me how to make the sprites appear in the post that would be pretty cool.
PLEASE NOTE THAT MY EV SPREADS ARE HORRIBLE AND I NEED WORK WITH THEM!!!
Progress:
The man I wanted to make a team around so obviously hes gonna be included. I decided to approach this with the common FWG core. I noticed my team was pretty damn slow so I wanted to add a good scarfer. I got tempted to add Tyranitar+scarf Landorus. I like how it fit and how it had syngergy with everyone but Charizard. I realized that I had the option of going for both the fire-water-grass and the steel-fairy-dragon core so I started looking into the(at this time) very unfamiliar fairy types. The best fit I found was Togekiss so he was added to the party.
Charizard X-Gastrodon-Ferrothorn-Tyranitar+Landorus+Togekiss
At this point I was loving the dual core typings that this team gave me but I had some major discontent with it. From the dual core everyone was pulling their weight but gastrodon. He was tanky, he was annoying, but then again everyone in my team was fairly tanky(especially since I run Specially defensive TTAR. I decided that I would replace him with Slowbro to add a regenerator and some more offensive power and coverage. (I saw this core on the XY cores thread and that gave me the idea)
Charizard X-Ferrothorn-Slowbro-Togekiss- Tyranitar-Landorus
The team was working really well and most of the time Charizard X was left completerly untouched. Im loving the landorus scarfer since its gotten me some surprise kills but that is mostly because i read them right and my opponents were fairly mediocre. I am pretty sure that the last 2 members(ttar and landorus) can be replaced with something better but i have no idea what. that landorus is working but im not completely convinced but right now the biggest problem is Ttar, he does the stealth rock job well but besides that im extremely unsure what set works best for this team
Finally: The Team Currently (HELP WITH EVS)
The Core:
Charizard
Ability: Blazy/Tough skin
item: megacharizard x item
nature: Adamant/Jolly(not sure which one is better)
Evs: 252 atk 252 spd 4hp
Moves:
Dragon dance
Flare Blitz
Earthquake/Thunder Punch
Dragon claw
The ev spread is very offensive and squishy since my team is already slow(especially with my mess of a ttar). Its a standard set with 2 stab moves, DD to boost and a coverage move. Earthquake is extremely good for dealing with heatran while thunder punch is just really cool since I lack thunder moves. I could go for thunder punch since i have so many earth moves but that means I need to get their heatran done before i bring this bad boy out
Slowbro
Ability: Regenrator
Item: Assault Vest
Nature: Bold
Evs: 252 Hp 252 SpAtk 4 Def
Moves:
Scald
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Psyshock
Standard assault vest set for slowbro, but since its invested in Spatk it gets many surprising OHKOs and has some nice bulkyness and sustain. Im unsure about the nature and if I should invest all 252 into sp atk but its been working. I find that this works better than gastrodon since it gives me a fighting resist, better coverage and can be a potential threat. Scald for burns and stab, ice beam for the annoying dragons, fliers and grounds types, flame thrower for stupid ferrothorns and psyshock for fighting types and hitting the defense stat. Im considering thunderbolt but im not sure if its worth giving up one of those 4 moves for. Also do tell if you think some gastrodon/other bulky water is better in your opinion.
Ferrothorn
Ability: rocky spike thingies
item: Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Evs: 252 hp 48 def 208 Spd
Moves:
Gyro ball
Power whip
Thunder Wave
Leech seed
Adds great typing to the team with plethora of resistances and is an essential member of both cores. he and slowbro are both fairly balanced in defensive stats but this guys is there to take the blows for the team while he can dish some nice damage with his stab moves. Leech seed is my absolute love so I took that for more sustain for whoever wants it and of course stalling power. Thunder wave instead of hazards since my team is slow and can really use the paralyzing. I also fell completely in love with thunderwave since I have a togekiss for some healthy paraflinching. He does his job damn well and he doesnt even have to be that many turns out since he doesnt have spikes and stealth rocks is on TTAR. Of course: ill accept recommendations for the ev spread/nature
Togekiss
ability: Serene Grace
item: Leftovers
Nature: modest
evs: 248 Hp 180 spatk 28 Spdf 52 speed
Moves:
Air slash
dazling gleam
fire blast/roost/filler
Defog
This guy has been treating me pretty great. Defog was originally roost in the first draft and i had a panic attack since i realized i had no spinner but i was so glad that i could just slap defog on her. the third move slot is pretty much always changing just like tyranitar and charizard-X coverage move. The evs are totally copied off a post I saw and im sorry but i have no idea what they are for so apologies for that. Her role basically is to keep the field clean while being an annoying haxer who can put pressure with its stab moves if they are weak to it. As I said before even tho she isnt that fast(which could be changed) she does have t-wave support from ferrothorn
The Fillers: Revenger and Tank-i-guess-thingy
Landorus
ability: sand force
item: choice scarf
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 hp 252 atk 252 speed
Moves:
Earthquake
Stone edge
Hammer arm
U-turn
hes basically here to scout with u-turn and to revenge kill/snipe people with its excellent coverage moves. Im not sure which one do i prefer as physical scarfer(him or his therian version) but i have him at the moment since he has sand force and is faster. I would be willing to try a special attack oriented version of him if anyone has any good sets. He does his job well but since im unsure of his slot and tyranitars im still not convinced. if Ttar has to go then feel free to change landorus too since hes gonna lose the power he gets from his ability probably making him inferior to other scarfers, the only thing i ask for this slot is something that is fast(either priority user, superfast, or scarf user). If you have other ideas id obviously like to hear them tho!
Tytanitar
ability: Sand stream
Item: Leftovers
Nature: careful
evs: 252 hp 252 spdef 4 spd
Moves:
Earthquake
Stone edge/Ice beam/Something
Pursuit
Stealth rocks
Right now he fills the role of being a special tank and rock placer who also gets to add a weather condition. Hes been working alright as a 6th mon and a wall but i have absolutely no idea what set should i run. Im liking its move set atm but im not very convinced on the ev spread/item choice/nature.
If you want to replace him then go ahead, if u want to recommend a set then please do! I do wish that one of these 2 last pokemons is a stealth rocker since i really wanna keep the t-wave/leech seed on ferrothorn. I was considering making ttar the scarfer swapping landorus for something else which could work but I see my team getting swept too easily. Id like opinions on the ttar scarf+some other mon option since im very eager to try it out again.
all in all: this is a very fun team with lots of flaws, thank you for reading till the end i am not of an english speaking country and i have been up for over 24 overs so pardon my constantly worsening english through this post. I really like this team and id like to keep improving it so any and all opinions are welcome. also this is my comeback to pokemon so lets all rejoice!
The man I wanted to make a team around so obviously hes gonna be included. I decided to approach this with the common FWG core. I noticed my team was pretty damn slow so I wanted to add a good scarfer. I got tempted to add Tyranitar+scarf Landorus. I like how it fit and how it had syngergy with everyone but Charizard. I realized that I had the option of going for both the fire-water-grass and the steel-fairy-dragon core so I started looking into the(at this time) very unfamiliar fairy types. The best fit I found was Togekiss so he was added to the party.
Charizard X-Gastrodon-Ferrothorn-Tyranitar+Landorus+Togekiss
At this point I was loving the dual core typings that this team gave me but I had some major discontent with it. From the dual core everyone was pulling their weight but gastrodon. He was tanky, he was annoying, but then again everyone in my team was fairly tanky(especially since I run Specially defensive TTAR. I decided that I would replace him with Slowbro to add a regenerator and some more offensive power and coverage. (I saw this core on the XY cores thread and that gave me the idea)
Charizard X-Ferrothorn-Slowbro-Togekiss- Tyranitar-Landorus
The team was working really well and most of the time Charizard X was left completerly untouched. Im loving the landorus scarfer since its gotten me some surprise kills but that is mostly because i read them right and my opponents were fairly mediocre. I am pretty sure that the last 2 members(ttar and landorus) can be replaced with something better but i have no idea what. that landorus is working but im not completely convinced but right now the biggest problem is Ttar, he does the stealth rock job well but besides that im extremely unsure what set works best for this team
Finally: The Team Currently (HELP WITH EVS)
The Core:
Charizard
Ability: Blazy/Tough skin
item: megacharizard x item
nature: Adamant/Jolly(not sure which one is better)
Evs: 252 atk 252 spd 4hp
Moves:
Dragon dance
Flare Blitz
Earthquake/Thunder Punch
Dragon claw
The ev spread is very offensive and squishy since my team is already slow(especially with my mess of a ttar). Its a standard set with 2 stab moves, DD to boost and a coverage move. Earthquake is extremely good for dealing with heatran while thunder punch is just really cool since I lack thunder moves. I could go for thunder punch since i have so many earth moves but that means I need to get their heatran done before i bring this bad boy out
Slowbro
Ability: Regenrator
Item: Assault Vest
Nature: Bold
Evs: 252 Hp 252 SpAtk 4 Def
Moves:
Scald
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Psyshock
Standard assault vest set for slowbro, but since its invested in Spatk it gets many surprising OHKOs and has some nice bulkyness and sustain. Im unsure about the nature and if I should invest all 252 into sp atk but its been working. I find that this works better than gastrodon since it gives me a fighting resist, better coverage and can be a potential threat. Scald for burns and stab, ice beam for the annoying dragons, fliers and grounds types, flame thrower for stupid ferrothorns and psyshock for fighting types and hitting the defense stat. Im considering thunderbolt but im not sure if its worth giving up one of those 4 moves for. Also do tell if you think some gastrodon/other bulky water is better in your opinion.
Ferrothorn
Ability: rocky spike thingies
item: Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Evs: 252 hp 48 def 208 Spd
Moves:
Gyro ball
Power whip
Thunder Wave
Leech seed
Adds great typing to the team with plethora of resistances and is an essential member of both cores. he and slowbro are both fairly balanced in defensive stats but this guys is there to take the blows for the team while he can dish some nice damage with his stab moves. Leech seed is my absolute love so I took that for more sustain for whoever wants it and of course stalling power. Thunder wave instead of hazards since my team is slow and can really use the paralyzing. I also fell completely in love with thunderwave since I have a togekiss for some healthy paraflinching. He does his job damn well and he doesnt even have to be that many turns out since he doesnt have spikes and stealth rocks is on TTAR. Of course: ill accept recommendations for the ev spread/nature
Togekiss
ability: Serene Grace
item: Leftovers
Nature: modest
evs: 248 Hp 180 spatk 28 Spdf 52 speed
Moves:
Air slash
dazling gleam
fire blast/roost/filler
Defog
This guy has been treating me pretty great. Defog was originally roost in the first draft and i had a panic attack since i realized i had no spinner but i was so glad that i could just slap defog on her. the third move slot is pretty much always changing just like tyranitar and charizard-X coverage move. The evs are totally copied off a post I saw and im sorry but i have no idea what they are for so apologies for that. Her role basically is to keep the field clean while being an annoying haxer who can put pressure with its stab moves if they are weak to it. As I said before even tho she isnt that fast(which could be changed) she does have t-wave support from ferrothorn
The Fillers: Revenger and Tank-i-guess-thingy
Landorus
ability: sand force
item: choice scarf
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 hp 252 atk 252 speed
Moves:
Earthquake
Stone edge
Hammer arm
U-turn
hes basically here to scout with u-turn and to revenge kill/snipe people with its excellent coverage moves. Im not sure which one do i prefer as physical scarfer(him or his therian version) but i have him at the moment since he has sand force and is faster. I would be willing to try a special attack oriented version of him if anyone has any good sets. He does his job well but since im unsure of his slot and tyranitars im still not convinced. if Ttar has to go then feel free to change landorus too since hes gonna lose the power he gets from his ability probably making him inferior to other scarfers, the only thing i ask for this slot is something that is fast(either priority user, superfast, or scarf user). If you have other ideas id obviously like to hear them tho!
Tytanitar
ability: Sand stream
Item: Leftovers
Nature: careful
evs: 252 hp 252 spdef 4 spd
Moves:
Earthquake
Stone edge/Ice beam/Something
Pursuit
Stealth rocks
Right now he fills the role of being a special tank and rock placer who also gets to add a weather condition. Hes been working alright as a 6th mon and a wall but i have absolutely no idea what set should i run. Im liking its move set atm but im not very convinced on the ev spread/item choice/nature.
If you want to replace him then go ahead, if u want to recommend a set then please do! I do wish that one of these 2 last pokemons is a stealth rocker since i really wanna keep the t-wave/leech seed on ferrothorn. I was considering making ttar the scarfer swapping landorus for something else which could work but I see my team getting swept too easily. Id like opinions on the ttar scarf+some other mon option since im very eager to try it out again.
all in all: this is a very fun team with lots of flaws, thank you for reading till the end i am not of an english speaking country and i have been up for over 24 overs so pardon my constantly worsening english through this post. I really like this team and id like to keep improving it so any and all opinions are welcome. also this is my comeback to pokemon so lets all rejoice!
