Tournament Ghosting Tour I - Round 2

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The Draft League subforum's inaugural Ghosting Tour is here! This tournament will be hosted by RauVGC, TwentyTwan, and TRowePrice667. This tournament is not part of the of the Draft League circuit and will not provide points toward this year's Draft League Championship. However, each member of the winning team of this tournament will receive a shared Custom Avatar prize on Pokémon Showdown! This tournament will take place in the [Gen 9] Draft tier on Pokémon Showdown, using Tera Type Preview! Teams will consist of 2 to 4 players and they will be put into a battle pool with 3 other teams. Teams advance to the single elimination bracket after getting 2 wins in the battle pool. Ghosting by teammates is permitted and encouraged for this tournament.

In competitive Pokémon, the act of ghosting involves communicating with a player currently in a battle usually with the intention of giving them an advantage. Ghosting can entail simply suggesting plays to make, suggesting potential opposing sets and passing damage calculations to a player midgame.

The following spoilers will cover rules for the tournament.

  • You have up to 90 points with which to draft 8 Pokémon. Costs are listed on your pool’s tab on the drafting spreadsheet.
  • Tera Pokémon may have a different cost from their regular forme, check the value to the right of their name to see how much they cost.
  • If a Pokémon is picked by someone else, you may not pick it.
  • For the first round, there is a 12 hour timer. After the first round ends, there will be a continuous 8 hour timer within which you must pick, or you will be skipped, and will be required to make-up your pick when you are next online. The timer will not turn off overnight.
  • In order to help speed up the first few rounds of the draft for everybody, tournament staff will impose a 24 hour check in. What that means is this:
    • From the commencement of the draft until 24 hours after, every single team will need to reach out to their pool mod (either in drafting channel discussion thread, or Discord DM)
    • This message can be simple "I'm here for pool X and ready to draft", no need to be elaborate
    • Any team who has already made a pick does not need to check in.
    • Only one player from each team has to check in.
    • Any team who has not checked in with their pool mod by the time check-in is over in 24 hours will be replaced.
  • Your timer will halve every time you are skipped. It is recommended to leave picks (with backups) with your pool moderator to avoid this.
    • It is the responsibility of the team to inform the other members of the pool if they have left a pick with the pool mod so the players can properly notify the pool mod it is your turn to pick. The pool mods are not responsible for watching every pick at every hour of the day waiting to input your pick.
    • If you are skipped by the other team when you left a pick but did not inform them that you did, the skip is justified.
    • If the pool mod does not respond in a timely manner, notify 1 online Moderator for further assistance.
  • Once the draft is over, you must declare 2 to 3 tera captains worth 28 points total. They are the only Pokémon on your draft that may Terastallize.
  • The following complex bans are in place:
    - No Pokémon may use the move Last Respects.
    - No Pokémon may use the move Shed Tail.
  • The following Pokémon may not be Tera-Captains:
    :baxcalibur: - Baxcalibur :baxcalibur:
    :darkrai: - Darkrai :darkrai:
    :deoxys-speed: - Deoxys-Speed :deoxys-speed:
    :dragonite: - Dragonite :dragonite:
    :garchomp: - Garchomp :garchomp:
    :gouging-fire: - Gouging Fire :gouging-fire:
    :iron-bundle: - Iron Bundle :iron-bundle:
    :iron-valiant: - Iron Valiant :iron-valiant:
    :kyurem: - Kyurem :kyurem:
    :latios: - Latios :latios:
    :latias: - Latias :latias:
    :ogerpon-hearthflame: - Ogerpon-Hearthflame :ogerpon-hearthflame:
    :palafin: - Palafin :palafin-hero:
    :regieleki: - Regieleki :regieleki:
    :roaring-moon: - Roaring Moon :roaring-moon:
    :sneasler: - Sneasler :sneasler:
    :terapagos: - Terapagos :terapagos:
    :ursaluna-bloodmoon: - Ursaluna-Bloodmoon :ursaluna-bloodmoon:
    :volcarona: - Volcarona :Volcarona:
  • The following Pokémon have access to all of their forms (although you may only bring up to 1 to each battle):
    :Pikachu: - Pikachu :Pikachu:
    :Basculin-Blue-Striped: - Basculin :Basculin:
    :Oricorio: - Oricorio :Oricorio-Sensu:
    :Toxtricity: - Toxtricity :Toxtricity-Low-Key:
    :Indeedee-F: - Indeedee :Indeedee:
    :basculegion: - Basculegion :basculegion-f:
    :oinkologne: - Oinkologne :oinkologne-f:
    :maushold: - Maushold :maushold-four:
    :squawkabilly: - Squawkabilly :squawkabilly-blue:
    :tatsugiri: - Tatsugiri :tatsugiri-droopy:
    :dudunsparce: - Dudunsparce :dudunsparce-three-segment:
  • If a Pokémon that is available in SV is untiered, please ask a host.
  • Smogon’s Species Clause applies to your draft.
  • All games must be played in the [Gen 9] Draft tier on smogtours.psim.us or psim.us with the Tera Type Preview mod enabled. Be aware that each game on Smogtours starts a timer automatically and cannot be turned off.
  • General tournament rules and regulations can be found here.
  • SV cartridge win conditions are in place; there are no ties.
  • Each set is a best-of-one set.
  • If you choose to play on the main PS! server, the use of battle timer will be banned for the first 30 minutes of the match. Once 30 minutes passes, either side may choose to turn on the timer. Teams may agree to turn it before the 30 minute mark but once turned on, it cannot be turned off. If teams are indecisive about which server to play the match on, the default option is the main PS! server for this tournament.
  • The following clauses apply:
    - Species Clause: A player cannot have two Pokémon with the same National Pokédex number on a team.
    - Sleep Clause: If a player has already put a Pokémon on their opponent's side to sleep and it is still sleeping, another one can't be put to sleep.
    - Evasion Clause: A Pokémon may not hold an item, use a move or possess an ability that can increase their evasion stat
    - OHKO Clause: A Pokémon may not have the moves Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, or Sheer Cold in its moveset.
    - Moody Clause: A team cannot have a Pokémon with the ability Moody.
    - Endless Battle Clause: Players cannot intentionally prevent an opponent from being able to end the game without forfeiting.
    - Baton Pass Clause: A Pokémon may not have Baton Pass in its moveset.
  • Quick Claw, King's Rock and Razor Fang are banned.
  • Any items unreleased in SV are banned.
  • Replays must be posted to the round thread.
  • Ghosting is only permitted by teammates.
About Activity Decisions

Activity Decisions / Coin Flips
: In the event that there is an uncompleted match at the deadline, it will be coin flipped unless one or both of the players involved in the match specifically request an activity win and explain sufficiently why they deserve to win over their opponent. Attempting to schedule a battle is required in order to receive the win by activity. To make it clear that you are requesting an activity win when you post, you must open your post with "Activity Win Request" in bold.

For example, if you believe your opponent is making an unfair request and that they don't deserve the activity win over you, you can either make your own request or quote their post and explain why they don't deserve it. You should try to make your activity win request posts at least 24 hours before the deadline to give your opponent a reasonable opportunity to contest it with their own activity win request.

We highly recommend that scheduling is done by posting on public smogon profile walls to ensure activity decisions are accurately made.
[Credit to the Official Smogon Tournament hosting team for the rule.]
As the remaining rounds for this tournament are now single elimination, extension requests are permitted. To request an extension, begin your post with "Extension Request" and include an exact date and time for when the extended match will occur. Extension matches must be played before Tuesday 23:59 GMT+1 of the current week. Failure to do so will result in a coin flip.

Average Joe's (Treyunt)  vs  stickyholders (eliminathan)
Mahooligans (Isa)  vs  tbd at a later date (or never) (hellom)
Equipe Cão Bonito (Plague)  vs  Styrofoam Squad (yerdunc)
Politoed Gang (uBezin)  vs  Wifi Warriors (IMCOOKiNG)
China Clippers (akxhdwy)
 vs  Steuerschuldedenne (balmain)
Tapu Lelolo Lepookie's (Queen of Bean)  vs  Shuckleking Hyper Intelligence Team (Shuckleking87)
The Yarn Yoshis (OdinRM)  vs  THE P BANDERS (blittius)
Let Flygons be Flygons (AquaticCarlie)
 vs  THE RAINBOW GOBLINS (Kaif)
gerald (StreetCredCookie) vs Gaming (Miyoko)
Brazen Bidoofs (stainedMorph!)  vs  Gengar's Casino (bricknermon)
Kuma4Gazer (AceTrainerOrange)  vs  terapaghosters (blergsid)
Three Starters and A Trapinch (TSAT) (Molomo)  vs  Los Cachorrao (Lucaslakd)
Dads In Legendary Form (Dr. Geo)  vs  Team Hanburger and French Fry (ogalbina)
Tarre me ghosteas xfa (Peum)
 vs  The Koopas Unbound (choptch)
Team Gangan Galar (Blastgamer77)  vs  Four Emperors of the Sea (jecotto03)
Prep City (sqoiche)  vs  Neo MF Doom Desires (GoldenCyber)
Moonfang Syndicate (Elevated)
 vs  Discord Building Chat (King Choco)
The Mochi men (Mr-Mongol)  vs  Mushy Misdreavus (Crystal Methyd)
MPF (Bloshh)  vs  OIIA GHOSTING SQUAD (Ultrxviolet)
Tiny Sawk (JCMShadow)
 vs  Safierre's Bouff Company (Bouff)
RKer Baaper Dol (feen)  vs SCOVILLAINS (faygoes)
Scylla's Mermaids (Shiif)  vs  Pokemon of the Elite (Murp3)
Shadow Drafters (Ember Celica)
 vs  Eye of the Midnight Lunalas (ReverseTracebacks)
24Roggenrolas (Jiggypoo)  vs  The Subasnomic Particles (PZZ)
Pagoda Pacers (VoidOfDarknesss)  vs  Magnus Victores (Maszt)
Die Turborandoms (RoFnA)  vs  manbf (mbf)
rajesh (shiloh)  vs  Ghostbusters 4 (Murphy Lawden)
asiancy (Horii)  vs  2021 OU Room (Fusien)
Willie's Chicken Shack 3 Piece White Chicken Combo with a Hurricane Willie (Shiba)  vs  The Plasma Powerlines (ChronosXZ)
Ground Shattering Pichu (Pichiu)  vs  Turbo Dive Top (Extinct!)
Cablifrères Lumière (Lizardu)  vs  Operation: Ogerpon (Wesleyy)
Oh The Milcery (Moron5)  vs  SSBL Retirement Home (Zooch)

Due to a Google error, only the member of each team who filled in the signup form will be tagged. The onus is on you to share this thread with your teammates.

The matchup doc is now available!

When posting replays, include both team names and clearly indicate which team won.



All matches must be played by 11:59PM GMT+1 on Sunday, June 1st.
This thread and all future Ghosting Tour I threads should be considered the final ruling in case of discrepancy between threads, Discord announcements, and Google spreadsheets. Contact a host if you have any questions or spot an error. We are human, after all.
 
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After further discussion with more tournament staff, we have decided to revert this so the new matchup is gerald (StreetCredCookie) vs Gaming (Miyoko)
Not gonna lie, I can't really understand the logic of our activity win being overturned not just once, but twice. The advice to seek an activity win in the first place was given to us by the organizers, which was granted to us initially, then overturned to an extension. This was fine, we were assured when the extension was granted that if none of the available times were times we could make, our result would be maintained. This was the case; times were provided, we could not make those times, and so we were given a win. This makes sense to me, and so why was this overturned the next day, halfway into the r2 week of the bracket stage?
 
Not gonna lie, I can't really understand the logic of our activity win being overturned not just once, but twice. The advice to seek an activity win in the first place was given to us by the organizers, which was granted to us initially, then overturned to an extension. This was fine, we were assured when the extension was granted that if none of the available times were times we could make, our result would be maintained. This was the case; times were provided, we could not make those times, and so we were given a win. This makes sense to me, and so why was this overturned the next day, halfway into the r2 week of the bracket stage?
As I've explained to your teammate, the activity win was reversed due to no visible effort from your team to schedule during the extension period. When the extension was given, it created a clean slate for both teams to try and schedule. There was however communication from only one team during this period, thus they were awarded the act win.
 
As I've explained to your teammate, the activity win was reversed due to no visible effort from your team to schedule during the extension period. When the extension was given, it created a clean slate for both teams to try and schedule. There was however communication from only one team during this period, thus they were awarded the act win.
It's kind of hard to follow that reasoning when it was also expressed to my teammate that if no windows were available we would be given the old result. Not exactly sure where the clean slate comes in there.

EDIT: Not trying to pitch for a re-reversal any further, I just am trying to understand what changed and where.
 
It's kind of hard to follow that reasoning when it was also expressed to my teammate that if no windows were available we would be given the old result. Not exactly sure where the clean slate comes in there.

EDIT: Not trying to pitch for a re-reversal any further, I just am trying to understand what changed and where.
you always gotta take the act win on this site
 
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