Gliscor MS question

Which secondary attacking move suits Gliscor best???

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Cyber Mewtwo

...For the support set that is.

Gliscor

move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Aerial Ace / Stone Edge / Ice Fang (can't decide)
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Roost
item: Leftovers
ability: Sand Veil
nature: Impish
evs: 252HP / 6ATK / 252 DEF
 
Cyber Mewtwo said:
...For the support set that is.

Gliscor

move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Aerial Ace / Stone Edge / Ice Fang (can't decide)
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Roost
item: Leftovers
ability: Sand Veil
nature: Impish
evs: 252HP / 6ATK / 252 DEF
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Aerial Ace its STAB why not take it and good on Heracross and Breeloom.
 
Stone Edge. The QuakeSlide combo is resisted by few, and for it's general purpose I'd prefer that than IF/AA. Of course it depends on your team too.
 
Ice Fang or you will have Specsmences and Garchomps switching into/staying in on you.

Ice Fang hits Breloom but not Heracross, but it would have to be a Heracross designed specifically to deal with Gliscors that lack Aerial Ace for it to do anything.

Stone Edge simply has less coverage than Ice Fang, and the low acc, lack of Att EVs and low pp will also make it less valuable.
 
I use Roost / Ice Fang / Aerial Ace / Earthquake. Gliscor can really pull it off and so many other things learn Stealth Rock.
 
I use U-trun :)

Depending on your team, choose which fits best.
Hate dragons? Ice fang's your friend :)
Fighting types getting you down?
Ariel Ace.
Flyers getting on ys' wit?
Stone edge.


Quake 2HKO's Hera regardless and he does nothing to Gliscor, so don't use AA just for him
 
Really depends on who you're trying to counter.

Aerial Ace has higher BP than Ice Fang (after STAB is factored in), and is 100% accurate unlike Stone Edg, but it doesn't have the coverage of Ice Fang and Stone Edge.
 
I used gliscor for a little while and had aerial ace, but found myself rarely if ever using it. I never seem to battle people with heracross.
 
I'm surprised Knock Off hasn't really been discussed. Stealth Rock can be learned by a ton of things, but Knock Off is really only useful on Gliscor, Tangrowth, Donphan, Drapion, and maybe Shuckle or Tentacruel.
 
Aerial Ace is most useful for it's most common purpose: countering heracross.
it doesn't have the coverage of Ice Fang and Stone Edge.
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Actually, iirc the ground/flying combo only hits Aerodactyl, Skarmory, and Zapdos for ineffective damage. Aerial Ace's power is also much better than ice fang after STAB. Ice Fang doesn't even 2hko 4hp/0 def Salamence after intimidate.
 
Kingdrom said:
Aerial Ace is most useful for it's most common purpose: countering heracross.


Actually, iirc the ground/flying combo only hits Aerodactyl, Skarmory, and Zapdos for ineffective damage. Aerial Ace's power is also much better than ice fang after STAB. Ice Fang doesn't even 2hko 4hp/0 def Salamence after intimidate.
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But it's not going to Intimidate you. Once you find out that it's Choice Banded, you switch it into Salamence, meaning you don't get Intimidated. Run that onto your numbers and see what you get.

And Heracross isn't doing a damn thing to Gliscor so you're free to Earthquake it if it's foolhardy enough to stay in.
 
I would have to say Ice Fang.

Ice, not only is it a better type than the other too(forgetting stab AA) It is able to beat things such as Garchomp, flyers who come in on it, specially with SR up too.

Heracross needs a Specs Hp Ice to threaten Gliscor, basically Gliscor doesn't need AA for Hera. EQ wears it down fine.
 
you are rarely going to use AA on anything worthwhile.. so go with Ice Fang or something else. I havent used it yet but by whats being used right now and the fact Heracross is usually Scarfed their is no need for AA.
 
To all of you people saying "Aerial Ace because it gets STAB", that is an extremely naive argument that ignores the dual factors that Aerial Ace has pathetic base power (60, which means Stone Edge does more after even STAB) and poor type coverage (Ice and Rock both work better with Ground). Aerial Ace is useless for the standard Heracross, which is Choiced and never getting past a well-played Gliscor anyways, and a simple Earthquake usually breaks Breloom's Substitutes. Any Fighting Pokemon can either get smothered to death by Earthquake or beat Gliscor with Ice Punch; there is little to no gray area except in the instance of Swords Dance Heracross. Additionally, Aerial Ace does a negligible amount of damage on the standard Grass types, which are Celebi and Tangrowth, and Stone Edge covers Bug Pokemon like Yanmega better. Overall, I like Ice Fang the most if I were to use a secondary attack because of the enormous threat Pokemon like Garchomp pose, but usually I run a full-support Knock Off / Earthquake / Roost / Stealth Rock set. U-Turn is also a cool move to use if you want.
 
Neither, use Taunt. Prevents switch-ins from accomplishing anything meaningful. Prime example is skarm.

Though thats just my opinion.
 
Seeing as it is one of the best Heracross counters there is Aerial Ace is probably the best choice. The second best is Ice Fang because of dragons and Stone Edge is definitely the worst due to the lower accuracy.
 
But sometimes it's kinda nice being able to hit Gyarados. Gyarados has not crap defense, I think that Stone Edge is your best bet for Gliscor to have something to do facing one.
 
blastoiselover100 said:
Seeing as it is one of the best Heracross counters there is Aerial Ace is probably the best choice. The second best is Ice Fang because of dragons and Stone Edge is definitely the worst due to the lower accuracy.
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Did you even read what I said? The standard Choice Heracross is incapable of bypassing any well-played Gliscor (as in it keeps its health up with Roost and invests a bunch of Defense and HP), and as Aerial Ace has the combination of low base power and poor type coverage in comparison to the other two options, it is often far more favorable to slowly wear down Heracross with Earthquake so another, more useful move can take the auxiliary slot.
 
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