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DarthChocoboz

DarthChocoboz

Hey guys i'd love this new team of mine rated

machamp @ lum berry
adamant 252 HP 240 ATK 16 SPEED

dynamicpunch [spelling?]
bullet punch
ice punch
payback

A very sort of standard set. 252 HP is for maximum leftovers recovery should i opt for that over lum but as a lead i find lum better as some leads like status. 16 SPEED evs allows me to out speed the standard smogon set for lead machamp while at the cost of a few ATK evs.Dynamicpunch is good. Bullet punch for sashers. Ice punch because if zapdos goes down i will have nothing really for shaymin. payback is standard for ghosts

suicune @ leftovers
Bold 236 HP 252 DEF 12 SP ATK 8 SPE

roar
surf
sleep talk
rest

My physical tank, and overall a beast.Can take physical hits fantasticly.236 HP because at 400 HP i get maximum leftovers recovery and have a nice few EVS for speed and SP ATK.I have 8 SPE because some people pack 4 SPE on suicune to outspeed other suicunes and with 8 i am able to out speed them.Then i want the rest in SP ATK because lack of calmind in favor of roar to phaze leaves me not hitting as hard as i would like.Rest-talk because only HP recovery suicune gets and really it needs sleep talk to work effectively

umbreon @ leftovers
Careful 212 HP 4 ATK 40 DEF 252 SP DEF

Payback
wish
curse
yawn

MY special tank a very good wall which takes special attacks for funsies! I carry wish and yawn without protect in favor of curse to tank more and force switches to deal with the curse and by the time they switch in i will have 2 curses and the ability to take many hits. Yawn to sleep things that will annoy me and wish to heal and give my team a second chance, aids gyara after a few SR switch ins. Payback is STAB.

gyarados @ life orb
Adamant 252 atk 4 HP 252 spe

waterfall
ice fang
dragon dance
earthquake


Pretty much a standard gyara. i have 4 hp because i have 30 hp ivs and need an odd number to survive five stealth rock entries.Waterfall is there for standard STAB and will usually switch out on something thats faster then me or if they have a wall i.e bronzong i'll hit it with a waterfall then switch.Ice fang because its really old school and not expected as much and a really nice way to hit lead of celebi and dragonite.Earthquake for those annoying heatran who are always killing my guys and in general earthquake is a solid move.


zapdos @ life orb
Timid 4 DEF 252 SP ATK 252 SPE

Hidden power grass
heat wave
thunderbolt
roost

MY main special attacker as spinda is novelty and i really need this hard hitter. I have the combo of HP grass heat wave and thunderbolt which gives near perfect type coverage. HP grass is for swampert which walls the HP ice set and i badly need this as i lack grass on my team. Heat wave and thunderbolt are standard and roost is for recovery as all the residual damage from SR life orb and the possible sandstorm or hail which are a lot more common now really requires roost and even umbreons wish.

My last poke is my main weakness as i need SR and swampert would be great here or even celebi would work but i really have neither so i opted for a gliscor set which is meant to be a physical wall but i need SR so i needed it.

gliscor @ leftovers
Impish 188 HP 252 DEF 68 SP DEF

Stealth rock
toxic
earthquake
roost

As i said physical wall turned Stealth rocker. Toxic for residual damage on those annoying walls that cause my sweepers so much agony. Earthquake is considered one of the best moves in the game and with STAB on a wall like gliscor its over powered. ROost is there for healing which if i can get it i'll use it and against ice moves using gliscors very reasonable speed i can easily turn them into only x2 effective. 188 HP is wrong meant to be 180 for maximum lefties and then 8 in SPEED but i was bad at maths when i asked for it to be ev'd.

thanks a lot for rating\helping me if i have missed something please state that, any speeling errors etc.
 
What exactly is your lead here?
I'm seeing a bunch of problems here.
Mainly Spinda.
Swift might be stab, but base 60 (90 after stab) is incredibly weak.
Umbreon is a pretty bad curser, with only one attack.

Honestly, this team isn't good at all. There is no synergy whatsoever, and it's not even in the form of a team (you are running a dragon dancer as a lead, rather then an ACTUAL lead).

Spinda is up there with Sub Punching Blissey
 
I will take out the spinda for something good then and i have never used a traditional lead as it is expected and the gyarados was the best thing i could lead with and i though about the things my old team hated and this team counters them, kingdra and herracross

editing in process for spinda
 
Not a bad start, but there are a few things that could use some work. One of the things that lead Machamp is supposed to be able to do is survive an Azelf Psychic, your set doesn't always do that. To minimize damage, move 16 EVs from HP into SpDef. You don't care about max Leftovers recovery because Lum Berry is much better as he hates status.

Umberon doesn't do much in OU. Switch him to Snorlax. Snorlax has much more special bulk thanks to his massive HP stat, and adds a Fire/Ice resist (not that the Fire is needed anyway but it's a nice bonus). Here's Snorlax's Curse set. Return is more powerful, but Body Slam has a change to paralyze the foe.

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Careful
Thick Fat
188 HP / 104 Def / 216 SpD
Curse
Return/Body Slam
Earthquake
Rest

On Gyarados, switch Ice Fang to Stone Edge. It's more powerful and hits threats such as Zapdos much harder.

Your team is weak to DD Gyarados and DD Dragonite. You might say you can switch in Gyara to Intimidate them, but that's not reliable. You also have no revenge killer. Answer to these problems: ScarfJirachi. He is a great revenge killer and can kill the afore mentioned threats.

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Iron Head
ThunderPunch
Ice Punch
Trick

I hope I helped out and good luck with the team.

jonathanrp, if you aren't going to suggest how to fix problems, don't post, seriously. Nobody likes seeing their team shot down and criticized without help being offered in return.
 
thank you very much for your advice i only noticed now i have no scarf witch i removed so i will edit again i usually carry either scarf rachi or scarf tran on every team i am viewing my team again now.
 
AlphaJolt said:
Not a bad start, but there are a few things that could use some work. One of the things that lead Machamp is supposed to be able to do is survive an Azelf Psychic, your set doesn't always do that. To minimize damage, move 16 EVs from HP into SpDef. You don't care about max Leftovers recovery because Lum Berry is much better as he hates status.

Umberon doesn't do much in OU. Switch him to Snorlax. Snorlax has much more special bulk thanks to his massive HP stat, and adds a Fire/Ice resist (not that the Fire is needed anyway but it's a nice bonus). Here's Snorlax's Curse set. Return is more powerful, but Body Slam has a change to paralyze the foe.

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Careful
Thick Fat
188 HP / 104 Def / 216 SpD
Curse
Return/Body Slam
Earthquake
Rest

On Gyarados, switch Ice Fang to Stone Edge. It's more powerful and hits threats such as Zapdos much harder.

Your team is weak to DD Gyarados and DD Dragonite. You might say you can switch in Gyara to Intimidate them, but that's not reliable. You also have no revenge killer. Answer to these problems: ScarfJirachi. He is a great revenge killer and can kill the afore mentioned threats.

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Iron Head
ThunderPunch
Ice Punch
Trick

I hope I helped out and good luck with the team.

jonathanrp, if you aren't going to suggest how to fix problems, don't post, seriously. Nobody likes seeing their team shot down and criticized without help being offered in return.
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It was kinda difficult, I couldn't really see what he was aiming to do with the original team.

Kind of like trying, for example to repair a bridge before the bridge was even built. You can't really do anything.
Now that there is a good group of Pokemon, I can help out.

For Suicune, running a single attack can cause some problems. Rest-talking is nice, but it leaves you as potential setup fodder for Pokemon that either resist or are immune to surf.

The Sub/CM set functions phenominally, able to make it almost impossible to break suicune's subs.

Swap umbreom out for snorlax if you want a curse user. Umbreon has too low of an attack stat to be effective, plus one attack is not too efficient.
 
i wanted suicune to have roar/surf/ice beam/rest but then i realised i could only resto chesto once and ice beam was to be a check for flygon and dragonite and i considered ice beam/surf/rest/sleep talk but i needed a phazer which i wouldn't need if i had the pert which i might optain hopefully in a trade

so i think i'll use the set alpha jolt suggested as it really appeals to me thanks you guys for the advice
 
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