National Dex UU [GP:1/1] Mienshao

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[SET]
Life Orb (Mienshao) @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Fake Out / Poison Jab

[SET COMMENTS]
With Life Orb and Regenerator granting it fantastic power while maintaining its longevity, Mienshao is able to be a consistent offensive threat capable of wearing down defensive options like Skarmory, Rotom-W, and Clefable over time while still immediately threatening common defensive and offensive options such as Ting-Lu, Aegislash, and Excadrill. Knock Off removes Leftovers and Rocky Helmet from Clefable and Skarmory, which assists Mienshao in wearing them down long-term while also ensuring Fighting-immune and -resistant Pokemon like Aegislash and Iron Moth are unable to switch in freely. U-turn can wear down switch-ins such as Mega Venusaur and Hippowdon until they are in 2HKO range of Close Combat, and also allows Mienshao to remain healthy by constantly triggering Regenerator. Fake Out is a fantastic option against offensive teams, allowing Mienshao to rack up chip damage against faster threats like Iron Moth and Galarian Zapdos, but Poison Jab is an option to help Mienshao break through Clefable immediately after Leftovers is removed. Despite Mienshao's power and longevity, it is often outclassed by Galarian Zapdos due to its complementary Flying STAB in Brave Bird. Therefore, it typically finds itself on balance teams that appreciate its longevity more compared to Galarian Zapdos as well as on offensive teams that prefer Mienshao's ability to better remove physical walls like Skarmory and Clefable for teammates such as Iron Boulder and Scizor. Since using Life Orb Mienshao usually means forgoing Galarian Zapdos as a Choice Scarf user, teammates such as Zeraora and Greninja are appreciated for their natural Speed and ability to outrun threats such as Alakazam and Iron Moth. Mienshao also enjoys using U-turn to create momentum, so strong wallbreakers such as Aegislash and Iron Moth are appreciated, with the latter being able to bring Mienshao in on Ting-Lu in return. Other pivots such as Rotom-W and Victini can help Mienshao come in multiple times per match, allowing it to better break holes in the opposing team's defensive core. Because Mienshao enjoys pivoting in and out, entry hazard support from the likes of Ting-Lu and Skarmory is mandatory to wear down Mega Venusaur and Hippowdon while also providing defensive support against faster threats such as Iron Moth and Iron Boulder.

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[SET]
Choice Scarf (Mienshao) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Triple Axel / Poison Jab / Stone Edge
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Scarf Mienshao differentiates itself from Galarian Zapdos by being a speed control option that both outspeeds it and maintains longevity throughout a match thanks to Regenerator, allowing Mienshao to be less bothered by entry hazards. Knock Off removes Leftovers from the likes of Celesteela and Aegislash as well as Rocky Helmet from Skarmory and Clefable, and it complements Close Combat well. Triple Axel takes advantage of Mienshao's slightly higher Speed compared to Galarian Zapdos to OHKO it after slight chip damage and also threatens Hydrapple, but it can be difficult to lock into given the prevalence of Rocky Helmet on defensive options like Skarmory and Clefable. Poison Jab is an option to help Mienshao against Enamorus and Mega Gardevoir, while Stone Edge can be used to OHKO Iron Moth. U-turn allows Mienshao to generate momentum against walls it cannot break, such as Skarmory and Hippowdon. While generally considered worse than Choice Scarf Galarian Zapdos due to its inability to threaten defensive staples such as Mega Venusaur and Clefable as well, Choice Scarf Mienshao can be utilized on teams that enjoy its longevity, resilience to entry hazards, and ability to outspeed Galarian Zapdos and OHKO it with Triple Axel. Since Choice Scarf Mienshao can be stopped fairly easily due to its lack of power, hazard support is mandatory alongside it, often provided by Skarmory and Hippowdon; in return, Mienshao can check powerful offensive threats such as Greninja and Alakazam. Choice Scarf Mienshao also forces many switches, so wallbreakers such as Aegislash and Choice Specs Greninja that can threaten common defensive responses to Mienshao like Skarmory and Clefable are important. While Mienshao is able to outspeed most offensive threats, Pokemon like Speed Booster Iron Moth and Sand Rush Excadrill able to outspeed it. Checks to these Pokemon, such as Ting Lu or Rotom-W, are mandatory to ensure teams don't fall apart against these faster threats.


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Busted Fighting-type???? :worrycargo:

a good amount of comments, but good job! :blobthumbsup:

[SET]
Life Orb (Mienshao) @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Fake Out / Poison Jab

[SET COMMENTS]
With Life Orb and Regenerator granting Mienshao fantastic power while maintaining its longevity, it is able to be a consistent offensive threat capable of wearing down defensive options like Skarmory, Rotom-W and Clefable over time while still immediately threatening common defensive and offensive options such as Ting Lu, Aegislash, and Excadrill. Knock Off removes Leftovers and Rocky Helmet from the aforementioned defensive options (might be a good idea to specify Skarmory / Clefable here since against Lu or Rotom-W you are most likely clicking CC), which assists Mienshao in wearing them down long-term, while also ensuring Fighting resists like Aegislash and Iron Moth are unable to switch in freely. U-turn can wear down options such as Mega Venusaur and Hippowdon until they are in 2HKO range from Close Combat, and also allows Mienshao to remain healthy by constantly triggering Regenerator. Fake Out is a fantastic option into offensive teams, allowing Mienshao to rack up chip damage against faster threats like Iron Moth and Galarian Zapdos, but Poison Jab is an option to help Mienshao break through Clefable immediately after Leftovers are removed. Despite Mienshao's power and longevity, it is often outclassed by Galarian Zapdos due its complementary Flying STAB. Therefore, it typically finds itself on Balance teams that appreciate Mienshao's longevity compared to Galarian Zapdos on offensive teams that prefer Mienshao's ability to better remove physical walls like Skarmory and Clefable for teammates such as Iron Boulder and Scizor. (the end here is quite confusing? you re talking about balance or offense?) Since using Life Orb Mienshao usually means forgoing Galarian Zapdos as a Choice Scarf user, teammates such as Zeraora and Mega Aerodactyl M-Aero is quite low on VR so maybe swap this to Greninja? Gren also threatens Bro / Buzz / Skarmory, which Shao usually invites in. If you change this, swap Gren with Moth later on are appreciated for their natural Speed and ability to outrun threats such as Alakazam and Greninja. Mienshao also enjoys using U-turn to create momentum, so strong wallbreakers such as Aegislash and Iron Moth are appreciated, with the latter being able to bring Mienshao in on Ting Lu in return. Moth also loves the free entry against Amoonguss / Buzzwole / Clef Other pivots such as Rotom-W and Victini can help Mienshao come in multiple times per match, allowing it to better break holes in the opposing team's defensive core. Because Mienshao enjoys pivoting in and out, entry hazard support from the likes of Ting Lu and Skarmory is mandatory to wear down Mega Venusaur and Hippowdon, while also providing defensive support against faster threats such as Iron Moth and Iron Boulder.

[SET CREDITS]
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[SET]
Choice Scarf (Mienshao) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab / Stone Edge / Triple Axel
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Scarf Mienshao differentiates itself from Galarian Zapdos by being a speed control option that both outspeeds it and maintains longevity throughout a match thanks to Regenerator, allowing Mienshao to be less bothered by entry hazards. Knock Off removes Leftovers from the likes of Rotom-W CC does like half to Rotom, another option here like Black Sludge Amoonguss would be great and Aegislash, as well as Rocky Helmet from Skarmory and Clefable, and complements Close Combat well. Poison Jab is an option to help Mienshao against Clefable considering this is a set more focused on revenge killing / speed control, i think Enamorus should be here instead of Clef. and Mega Gardevoir, while Stone Edge can be used to OHKO Heavy Duty Boots Iron Moth. Triple Axel is also an option to OHKO Galarian Zapdos and Hydrapple, but can be difficult to lock into, given the prevalence of Rotom-W and Slowbro and their ability to check Choice Scarf Mienshao. i wouldn't say Shao struggles with Rotom-W tbh, if you click Knock once he's basically dead next time if you click Close Combat, so swap Rotom here with Buzzwole or just leave bro here. U-turn allows Mienshao to generate momentum against walls it cannot break, such as Skarmory and Hippowdon. Choice Scarf Mienshao, while generally considered worse than Choice Scarf Galarian Zapdos due to its inability to threaten defensive staples such as Mega Venusaur and Clefable as well, can be utilized on teams that enjoy Mienshao's longevity, resilience to entry hazards, and ability to outspeed Galarian Zapdos and cripple it with Knock Off or OHKO it with Triple Axel. you are saying this here but Triple Axel is the last option on the fourth slot, considering this a big factor we could make it the first slash OR just mention that shao is a good revenge killer against zam / gren Since Choice Scarf Mienshao can be stopped fairly easily due to its lack of power, hazard support is mandatory alongside it, often provided by Skarmory and Hippowdon; in return, Mienshao can check powerful offensive threats such as Greninja and Alakazam. Choice Scarf Mienshao also forces many switches, so wallbreakers such as Aegislash and Choice Specs Greninja that can threaten common defensive responses to Mienshao like Skarmory and Clefable are important. add some answers for targets that shao can't revenge kill like Speed Moth and Rush driller


[SET CREDITS]
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[SET]
Life Orb (Mienshao) @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Fake Out / Poison Jab

[SET COMMENTS]
With Life Orb and Regenerator granting Mienshao it fantastic power while maintaining its longevity, it Mienshao is able to be a consistent offensive threat capable of wearing down defensive options like Skarmory, Rotom-W, (comma) and Clefable over time while still immediately threatening common defensive and offensive options such as Ting-Lu, Aegislash, and Excadrill. Knock Off removes Leftovers and Rocky Helmet from Clefable and Skarmory, which assists Mienshao in wearing them down long-term (remove comma) while also ensuring Fighting-immune and -resistant Pokemon resists like Aegislash and Iron Moth are unable to switch in freely. U-turn can wear down (switch-ins / defensive options? add one of these or another term that fits) options such as Mega Venusaur and Hippowdon until they are in 2HKO range from of Close Combat (remove comma) and also allows Mienshao to remain healthy by constantly triggering Regenerator. Fake Out is a fantastic option into against offensive teams, allowing Mienshao to rack up chip damage against faster threats like Iron Moth and Galarian Zapdos, but Poison Jab is an option to help Mienshao break through Clefable immediately after Leftovers are is removed. Despite Mienshao's power and longevity, it is often outclassed by Galarian Zapdos due to its complementary Flying STAB attacks. Therefore, it typically finds itself on Balance balance teams that appreciate Mienshao's its longevity more compared to Galarian Zapdos (remove comma) as well as on offensive teams that prefer Mienshao's ability to better remove physical walls like Skarmory and Clefable for teammates such as Iron Boulder and Scizor. Since using Life Orb Mienshao usually means forgoing Galarian Zapdos as a Choice Scarf user, teammates such as Zeraora and Greninja are appreciated for their natural Speed and ability to outrun threats such as Alakazam and Iron Moth. Mienshao also enjoys using U-turn to create momentum, so strong wallbreakers such as Aegislash and Iron Moth are appreciated, with the latter being able to bring Mienshao in on Ting-Lu in return. Other pivots such as Rotom-W and Victini can help Mienshao come in multiple times per match, allowing it to better break holes in the opposing team's defensive core. Because Mienshao enjoys pivoting in and out, entry hazard support from the likes of Ting-Lu and Skarmory is mandatory to wear down Mega Venusaur and Hippowdon (remove comma) while also providing defensive support against faster threats such as Iron Moth and Iron Boulder.

[SET CREDITS]
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[SET]
Choice Scarf (Mienshao) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Triple Axel / Poison Jab / Stone Edge
- U-turn

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Scarf Mienshao differentiates itself from Galarian Zapdos by being a speed control option that both outspeeds it and maintains longevity throughout a match thanks to Regenerator, allowing Mienshao to be less bothered by entry hazards. Knock Off removes Leftovers from the likes of Celesteela and Aegislash as well as Rocky Helmet from Skarmory and Clefable, and it complements Close Combat well. Triple Axel takes advantage of Mienshao's slightly higher Speed compared to Galarian Zapdos to OHKO it after slight chip damage and also threatens Hydrapple, but it can be difficult to lock into given the prevalence of Rocky Helmet on defensive options like Skarmory and Clefable. Poison Jab is an option to help Mienshao against Enamorus and Mega Gardevoir, while Stone Edge can be used to OHKO Iron Moth. U-turn allows Mienshao to generate momentum against walls it cannot break, such as Skarmory and Hippowdon. Choice Scarf Mienshao, while While (moved cos long phrase after) generally considered worse than Choice Scarf Galarian Zapdos due to its inability to threaten defensive staples such as Mega Venusaur and Clefable as well, Choice Scarf Mienshao can be utilized on teams that enjoy Mienshao's its longevity, resilience to entry hazards, and ability to outspeed Galarian Zapdos and OHKO it with Triple Axel. Since Choice Scarf Mienshao can be stopped fairly easily due to its lack of power, hazard support is mandatory alongside it, often provided by Skarmory and Hippowdon; in return, Mienshao can check powerful offensive threats such as Greninja and Alakazam. Choice Scarf Mienshao also forces many switches, so wallbreakers such as Aegislash and Choice Specs Greninja that can threaten common defensive responses to Mienshao like Skarmory and Clefable are important. While Mienshao is able to outspeed most offensive threats, Pokemon like Speed Booster Iron Moth and Sand Rush Excadrill able to outspeed it. Checks to these Pokemon, such as Ting Lu or Rotom-W, are mandatory to ensure teams don't fall apart against these faster threats.


[SET CREDITS]
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