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Hail Team - First RMT

Ex-Rocket

Well, here's my First Hail Team and RMT. The Reason me Posting is because I am also entering the VGC and want everyone's opinons on them. Thanks

AbomaSnow@SHell Bell
EVs:6 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Substitute
-Blizzard
-Focus Punch
-Wood HAmmer
Obomasnow is used for leading the team for it's Snow Warning and would cover most things like Moveset's suggest Subbing for Focus Punch so I am not really to worried about that. But what bothers me is Leech Seed. I took off LS for Wood Hammer because I saw no Point in it. But I think it would be a better choice for Leech Seed since Walrein would be Stalling for time and it would help eat away the targets HP while being pelted and Poisoned.

Walrein@Leftovers
IceBody
Bold Nature
EVs:220 HP / 240 Def / 48 Spe
-Protect
-Substitute
-Toxic
-Surf/Blizzard?
Also leading my team in the Double Battle is Walrein for it's Stalling since I figured most players would Sweep first I thought stalling would be better. Well, I'm Having trouble deciding between Surf and Blizzard. I figured Blizzard since it would hit both Opponents instead of having surf hit the ally too. But the problem with that is if my opponent sent out an Ice-Type also I would have a difficult time assuming Heatran fainted and all. Plus AbomaSnow already knows Blizzard and the low PP...

Starmie@?
Natural Cure
Timid NAture
EVs:4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Grass Knot
-Rapid Spin
Her Purpose is to take care of those pesky Fighting-Type, Water, and moves such as Stealth Rock...etc But I really didn't know who else to use. So I raised Starmie and thought she would be good, I don't really have an item for her at the moment, any ideas besides Choices items, Or other Movesets?

Mamoswine@Life Orb
Snowcloak
Naughty Nature
EVs:252 Atk / 20 SpA / 236 Spe
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Stone Edge
-Blizzard
He's for taking care of the Electric-Type by switching with Walrein to ground it out, and also steel although any Steel-Type would have the Advantage...
Yeah, I like the Moveset Smogon set up and will more or likely stay with it, but should I take off Earthquake for Earth Power so it won't hurt my ally? Or Just Trade out Mamo and Raise a non Ice Ground-Type?

Heatran@Choice Scarf
Flash Fire
Naive Nature
EVs:4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Flamethrower
-EarthPower
-Explosion
-Stealth Rock
Heatran is used for taking care the steel type and Stealth rocking at the begininng of the battle. So I Thought it would be better to use Heatran instead of Abomasnow leading, which has worked so far. But I thought it would be better to Stealth Rock instead of Dragon Pulse because My team already has a bunch of Ice-Type Attacks to take care of those Dragons so what's the point?

Frosslass@BrightPowder
Snow Cloak
Timid Nature
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Destiny Bond
-Ice Beam
-Taunt
-Shadow Ball

I was orginally gonna have her "Snow Cloak Abuse" but Decided to have her Suicide Lead. The only Problem is I have abomaSnow's leading. The Reason I took off Spikes for Shadow Ball is because Heatran already knows Stealth Rock and it would be kinda dumb to have it when I already Rocked my opponents side Any ideas for something instead of Shadow Ball? Not only that I don't know who to lead the team, and need help deciding.


So feel free to say whatever you think.

Thanks for the save and Correction Darkvirus, I really appreciate it.
 
ok after the fix this now looks alot better but soon as i started reading you said double battles i assume by you sig your using this for the VGC and on that basis changes would need to be made as 4v4 double battles are fast paced meaning no time for stallrein to work its magic and lack of stealth rock meaning thats not a worry i would suggest on making

Abomasnow@lum berry
Quiet
IV's : 0 speed(to make sure you get your weather up after your opponent)
EVs:252 SpA/?
-Protect - to block fakeout users mostly and to scout for opponents moves
-Blizzard - in doubles hits both opponents ( and your own i belive) so a strong move to have concidering in hail it never misses
-Ice shard - take out focus sashers
-Wood Hammer - strong stab move worth having as not sure what else is useable

Frosslass@focus sash
Snow Cloak
Timid Nature
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Destiny Bond after sash activates use this as you have a strong chance of taking down opponents pokes with this
-Blizzard - in doubles hits both opponents ( and your own i belive) so a strong move to have concidering in hail it never misses
-Taunt - due to part ghost you cant get fake outted and you can then use taunt to shutdown any slower set up leads who might try activate trickroom/rain dance/sunny day ect.
-Shadow Ball - strong stab move can cause damage to any other ghosts you may see but concider thunderbolt in this space

you may want to concider a glaceon due to highest base spc attack with blizzard that isent in ubers maybe a life orb Mamo like you have with
Superpower over stone edge

im no expert on hail teams but i hope what i have said helps
 
You'll also notice that in that article Darkvirus posted, it shows you all the possible threats to your hail team. Everyone of those pokemon could do serious damage to your team, and they are all very commonly used.

Another issue that your gonna have is when Abomasnow is taken down, you have no other way of starting up hail again which kinda defeats the purpose of hail stalling.

I don't know much about double battles so i'm not sure how to help you with pokemon choices for this particular team, sorry.
 
Yeah, I see what your saying. But yeah it's 4on4 so Stallrein's a no go. (Blizzard hits opponents only lol just checked) I would assume that having good Defenses would help on that but I guess not.
Also taking in your consideration of Abomasnow and Froslass. I thought why not have Heatran/something with High Attack and Speed up first with another Ghost-Type maybe for the Explosion to sweep my Opponents first two if they are normal and have the Ghost be immune to it while using Hypnosis until a hit? And then switch into Abomasnow starting the Hailstorm, Thus making it clear for maybe Mamo?
Yeah, I just now realized that. Thanks StealingUrAir. lol
 
the main problem with doinbg that is alot of people will have ghosts/steels or focus shash or run protect be again i no expert on hail or double battle you need to jsut test a team and see waht works as there will be many theme teams out there like other hail, sunny day ect
 
Yeah, I see. Alright then thanks, I'm gonna just try my own luck and post again much later for a double check before I enter. Thanks again
 
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