have you ever made a pokemon team that wins a lot but you want some advice on it?

[gorm]

i know i have

eg:

team molybdenum

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the idea is to use a good deal of insurance setting up the big cash (gyara and latias) with a stallish defensive core (including gyara and latias).

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Zen Headbutt
- Iron Head
- U-turn



a lead you can play hella conservatively with, beats suicide leads and fast(est?) uturns away from the uncertain? fuck yes. adamant to underspeed other rachis and beat their scout. people use jolly for some reason. trick is insurance for anything i have trouble with. flinch moves because I'm gay. Also i spam u-turn pretty often, so yeah i guess I'm one of those guys. trick is really annoying so i use it. "best lead".
heatran leads-> bliss-->forry if it SRs
nape leads-> latias
troublesome waters->celebi (save pert->forry to spin)
beats almost everything else. uh? smart zone users are annoying though
serves also as insurance for anything fast (and it even has great resists paired with latias!)

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Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Recover
- Grass Knot
- Hidden Power [Fire]

goddam i miss twave but oh well. scizor is a (BAN ME PLEASE) and so is forry/all steels. helps with the looms i see everywhere too. heatran bait, but that's fine cuz it works so good with stoss bliss (even covers her weak!) since heatran is pretty much fucked between them, latias and gyara on top of being eqed by forry lure too much.

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Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spd
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Roost
- Substitute
- Calm Mind

latias is smiling because it's about to cream you. this thing is absolutely broken and i can't really believe it's ou i guess this set is way less common as i thought it would be. I'd use it with tspikes but grounded poisons/spinners are gay and this team is pursuit bait as it is without rotom. sets up on zapdos/celebi/gyaras/stuff that can only touch it with 8 pp moves (zong/forry/stone edge users) scizor bait but i usually am behind a sub so it's cool

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Forretress (M) @ Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP/80 Atk/180 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Rotom Bait/gyara bait (both are pretty well covered though). Uh, standard, Sets up rocks and spins them away right? stops mence from trampling me and having two steels on a team with latias is straight up relaxing. i am considering boom though. shed shell because of a zillion zones. i chose to spin on this team mostly because of gyara but constantly scout switching stuff in always adds up and that's all i do early game. I can almost always find a chance to spin away suicide lead rocks

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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Flamethrower


obibliss variation. fuck zapdos, heatran, trickless rotom and pretty much all all special attackers without boom (and even those with boom i can live through occaisonally.) takes status like a champ. 3 attacks means even post-trick i can still do hella damage with this thing. they hit everything, it's great. i havent encountered scarfgar but im glad i have her if i do. latias gets stopped cold too heh

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Gyarados (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP/16 Atk/160 Def/80 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Waterfall


ok fuck scizor for the last time. i have enough mons to take him out but he's still kind of a pain. i also have celebi to clear our bulky waters so this really works. i fear sub ddkingdra setting up on this a lot though. jirachi provides good insurance. blissey (for electrics)/jirachi (for SEs, the only physical attack he fears) /celebi (all waters) cover his weaks so well that that's really the only problem with getting a sweep off.

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I'm fighting weak, esp luke with stone edge/crunch but those are rare. scizor is annoying as always. one of my worst losses was to a mono fighting team lol. cbhera is terrifying but again, jirachi/gyara do have their uses

mence rapes me in the dick. jirachi /forry are good insurance but mixmence picks me off

opposing gyaras are also a probem, luckily i have insurance in jirachi/celebi
old school offensive teams are annoying but i have a lot of good switches for most of what they throw at me.

help! steal! improve the emotes even.
what's up

 

[PakGamer]

Salamence is definitely your biggest problem. I would go with removing something on Jirachi ( trick? ) for Ice Punch to try to cover it.
I don't understand your forry spread... what are all those spdef evs for? With that spread and no leftovers, you won't be able to take Outrages at all so you still lack a genuine counter even to a DD mence.I would go with t-wave for heal bell on celebi since its very crucial for you to cripple many threats like that Lucario you mentioned and Salamence.You already have two 'mons to absorb status and if you really still want it, you can swithc it for something on Blissey, flamethrower to me does not seem all that important.Also you are missing some evs on your Celebi, where else do you have them?
Other than that, the team looks very solid and is actually very similar to mine :D

 

[greg3064]

The +Spd Scarf Jirachi in the analysis runs 176 Spd to outrun Dragons, which you'll miss out on with an Adamant nature. If you opt for Ice Punch over Trick to cover your DDMence weakness, then you are best off with 180 Spd and a Jolly nature. Why? Although you won't be able to outscout other Scarf Jirachis, you can outrun most Salamence and Gyarados after a DD and OHKO with Ice Punch. You also outrun Choice Scarf Flygon (which, also with 100 base speed and a +Spd nature, runs 176 Spd as well) and OHKO that with Ice Punch. I also don't see the point in running Iron Head and Zen Headbutt; since you're outspeeding Gyarados now, you might as well drop one of them for Thunderpunch, which will always OHKO without Intimidate factored in. BulkyGyara will cause problems though, although it will be OHKOed with Stealth Rock, without Intimidate (BulkyGyara switches in, you switch to Jirachi as it DDs, you outspeed and Thunderpunch it).

The solution to these would be running a special set instead. I can see why the analysis suggests Special over Physical for Scarf Jirachi. You'll have a much easier time OHKOing Gyarados with Thunderbolt, and HP Ice is available to take care of your Mence problems and Flygon. U-Turn can still be used for scouting.

Overall, it's up to you, but I don't think that Jirachi is reaching its potential.

 

[gorm]

actually jirachi is the one pokemon i'm least likely to change, flinch +scarf and a strong/fast uturn are all kinda needed for this team, but i might consider ice punch over zh. thing is there will always be jolly mences dding with their lifeorbs and i'd rather my check not be a speed tie. i kind of miss 3 attack bronzong>forry but i also love spinning =__=

 

[Komodo]

IF you are willing to give up dragon dance on gyarados thunder wave can be helpful against dragon dance kingdra, as long as you invest enough speed to outrun the standard adamant one, well for a start you could take 40 ev's from hp to give a good 384 hp lefotvers recovery and place them into speed.