SV OU HO sun team, tips wanted.

brilliance1234

brilliance1234

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Torkoal @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin
- Overheat
- Solar Beam

Torkoal is the sun setter as I opted not to go for sunny day skuntank. It leads the game, puts down stealth rocks then either over heats rapid spins or switches out to the appropriate pokemon.

Ceruledge @ Focus Sash
Ability: Weak Armor
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Sneak
- Bitter Blade
- Solar Blade

Ceruledge is here as a set up sweeper who sword dances on a physical move that activates weak armour then tries to sweep with bitter blade solar blade for high powered coverage and shadow sneak for priority. Ceruledge is mainly here because it is my favorite pokemon so if you could not change it that would be nice.
Lilligant-Hisui (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance
- Solar Blade
- Ice Spinner

Lilligant is here as the necessary chlorophyll user that Stops booster speed valiants and sucker kingambits with leaf blade after chip from ceruledge for valiants and close combat or ice spinner depending if it has tera'd or not for gambits.
Typhlosion-Hisui @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Eruption
- Shadow Ball
- Lava Plume
- Overheat

Typhlosion-hisui with choice scarf powers of very high powered eruptions or overheats in the sun and out speeds almost everything unboosted to deal massive damage to even resists.

Walking Wake @ Life Orb
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Steam
- Dragon Pulse
- Substitute
- Agility

Walking wake uses booster special attack and life orb to get a 1.6 boost to special moves agility to get the needed speed, sub to block statuses and get free setup opportunities. It also works as a rain stopper which is very helpful in weather wars.

Roaring Moon @ Choice Band
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Crunch
- Iron Head
- Brick Break

Roaring moon is my insanely strong wall breaker that with a choice band and Protosynthesis attack ohko almost all neutrals and 2hkos most resists. The main fault of this Mon is the fact that I usually find myself switching it in against samourts, in that case you want to outrage but if you do there is a good chance that it will switch into a valiant when you kill it giving it a chance to set up then kill you, but if you iron head you won't kill the samourt and it will know to switch to one of the many steel resists in the meta.

Problems.
This team has absolutely no way to beat dd dragapault with dragon darts it almost always results in a loss.

REPLAYS

Swept by dragapault almost comeback sweep by ceruledge.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1896987390

Ceruledge forfeit.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1896991393

Loss vs the entire meta (not good)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1896995019-mti1ez7971y2e4zc1btijw1egi9o5r4pw

Typhlosion kills half the team and a resist
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1897002372

Win vs weird low ladder team
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1897012935


Win vs what might be a viable team (in low ladder?!?!!)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1897016600

Loss vs 50% of all teams
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1897020329.

Change log. After playing the replays I changed roaring moons tera to fairy.

That's the end of the RMT, as you can probably tell I am very low ladder after falling off from 1500. Tips for this team and general skills is highly appreciated. :) :Ceruledge:
 
Maybe run Typhlosion's special move, rather than lava plume/shadow ball. Well rather over shadow ball, as it's a ghost STAB too. Burn chance+ SE, at a slight drop in power, seems helpful in general(cause x2 if statused.) Idk since shadow ball mostly gets non bulky puts, which are probably most. Just a thought, since it's a better secondary effect by far than shadow's

Edit: maybe dark Tera on moon. Just to not be weak to darts idk
 
Hey,

I think this team needs a lot of improvements so I'll be quick:

:Torkoal:
Torkoal @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Tera Type: Water
Bold Nature
- Lava Plume
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Yawn

I think you should run some Smogon standard sets that will be provided from the strategy dex, this will be a good start. The set you had prior is not utilizing Torkoals bulk which is one of the benefits when using it on your team, Plume is for burns, Yawn is to force mons to switch so you can get a free switchin.

No change for Ceruledge
Lilligant maybe consider Tera Ground / Tera Blast > Solar Blade to hit Gholdengo which is a common switchin.

I don't like Typhlosions role I feel like it's just there for speed control where you can transfer that role for Roaring Moon. I think a classic Hatterene Eject Pack would be much needed here for the quick switchins and not to be annoyed by entry hazard, and to have access to Healing Wish.
:hatterene:
Hatterene @ Eject Button
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 116 Def / 144 Spe
Bold Nature
- Healing Wish
- Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
- Mystical Fire

Use this Roaring Moon set to give you the speed boost (1.5x) vs the (1.3x) attack boost as well as still utilizing Choice Band.
:Roaring Moon:
(Roaring Moon) @ Choice Band
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 220 Atk / 36 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- U-turn
Sorry if I rushed through it, but I hope my suggestions help.
 
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AndViet said:
Hey,

I think this team needs a lot of improvements so I'll be quick:

:Torkoal:
Torkoal @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Tera Type: Water
Bold Nature
- Lava Plume
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Yawn

I think you should run some Smogon standard sets that will be provided from the strategy dex, this will be a good start. The set you had prior is not utilizing Torkoals bulk which is one of the benefits when using it on your team, Plume is for burns, Yawn is to force mons to switch so you can get a free switchin.

No change for Ceruledge
Lilligant maybe consider Tera Ground / Tera Blast > Solar Blade to hit Gholdengo which is a common switchin.

I don't like Typhlosions role I feel like it's just there for speed control where you can transfer that role for Roaring Moon. I think a classic Hatterene Eject Pack would be much needed here for the quick switchins and not to be annoyed by entry hazard, and to have access to Healing Wish.
:hatterene:
Hatterene @ Eject Button
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 116 Def / 144 Spe
Bold Nature
- Healing Wish
- Psyshock
- Dazzling Gleam
- Mystical Fire

Use this Roaring Moon set to give you the speed boost (1.5x) vs the (1.3x) attack boost as well as still utilizing Choice Band.
:Roaring Moon:
(Roaring Moon) @ Choice Band
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 220 Atk / 36 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- U-turn
Sorry if I rushed through it, but I hope my suggestions help.
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Thank you! I will try that.
 
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