Horrible title-maker.

Mr. Whatever

So instead of coming up with a snazzy name, I decided to put a joke here:
You should always say no to drugs. If they say yes back at you, you need to say no more often.
Heh.
This is my first serious Wi-Fi Team. Flames welcome.

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Gyrados @ Leftovers
Adamant
212 HP/ 16 Atk/ 180 Def/ 100 Spd

Dragon Dance
Earthquake/Stone Edge
Waterfall
Taunt

Good starter. I don't think that my team needs Ice Fang, but Stone Edge is a possibility over Earthquake.

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Blissey @ Lefties
Bold, Natural Cure
252 HP/252 Def/4 Spe

Aromatherapy
Stealth Rock
Seismic Toss
Softboiled

Upon suggestions, swapped out Ice Beam for SR. Swapped EVs to accomodate for loss of Ice Beam. Your standard special wall.

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Lucario @ Choice Specs
Modest, Steadfast
252 SpA/ 252 Spe/ 4 Def

Aura Sphere
Vacuum Wave
HP Ice/ Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball

Probably what I will use to kill Blissey most of the time.

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Fortress @ Shed Shell
Relaxed, 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA

Spikes
Earthquake/Zap Cannon
Rapid Spin
Explosion/Rest
Primary physical wall and spinner. If I go w/ Zap Cannon, I can counter DDGyara, but I'm not sure of the EVs. Earthquake is always an option, but I think that my team needs a DDGyara counter more. Opinions?

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Starmie @ Choice Scarf
Modest, Natural Cure
252 Spe/252 SpA/6 HP

Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Psychic
Surf

Since Tangrowth no longer exists to counter Pert, I figured I would play w/ Starmie's EVs and Nature and give it a Scarf. Grass Knot serves as a counter to many bulky waters in general and Pert in specific. Psychic, Modest, and Scarf are to let it kill Modest ScarfGars and Heracross, and as an added bonus gives the Star extra STAB.

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Dugtrio @ Life Orb
Jolly, Arena Trap
252 Spd/ 4 SpD/ 252 Atk

Aerial Ace
Earthquake
Sucker Punch
Stone Edge

Revenge Killer.

Fortress is my main area of concern, as I'm not sure whether or not to go with Zap Cannon or not, but as IggyBot pointed out, my team has a decent weakness to Ice/Electric. As far as I can think, Fortress is my best bet for a spinner that isn't weak to those types. It also gets Spikes, which is quite nice. I could also do w/ some suggestions for Starmie.
Suggestions?
 
Mr. Whatever said:
So instead of coming up with a snazzy name, I decided to put a joke here:
You should always say no to drugs. If they say yes back at you, you need to say no more often.
Heh.
This is my first serious Wi-Fi Team. Flames welcome.

dpmfa130.png

Gyrados @ Leftovers
Adamant
212 HP/ 16 Atk/ 180 Def/ 100 Spd

Dragon Dance
Earthquake/Stone Edge
Waterfall
Taunt

Good starter. I don't think that my team needs Ice Fang, but Stone Edge is a possibility over Earthquake.

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Blissey @ Lefties
Bold, Natural Cure
252 HP/252 Def/4 Spe

Aromatherapy
Stealth Rock
Seismic Toss
Softboiled

Upon suggestions, swapped out Ice Beam for SR. Swapped EVs to accomodate for loss of Ice Beam. Your standard special wall.

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Lucario @ Choice Specs
Modest, Steadfast
252 SpA/ 252 Spe/ 4 Def

Aura Sphere
Vacuum Wave
HP Ice/ Dragon Pulse/HP Electric
Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball

Upon suggestion, swapped CBgross for Luke. I was considering leading with this and having it use HP Electric for a surprise Gyara counter. Opinions?

In third slot, i recommend to use Hidden Power Ice. Fourth slot is depend on you.

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Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Impish, Clorophyll
252 HP/228 Def/28 Spe

Knock off
Power Whip
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder

Primary physical wall. Great Gyara counter, also counters Weavile to some extent, iirc.

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Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid, Natural Cure
172 HP/ 120 Spa/ 216 Spe

Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Recover
Surf

My spinner. Loved Starmie since R/B/Y gen.

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Dugtrio @ Life Orb
Jolly, Arena Trap
252 Spd/ 4 SpD/ 252 Atk

Aerial Ace
Earthquake
Sucker Punch
Rock Slide

Revenge Killer.

I don't know. If I put HP Electric on Lucario instead of HP Ice, would it still be as useful? It would be great to get rid of a Gyarados from the get-go, and even if they aren't leading with a Gyara, I could save HP electric for later and surprise the opponent with a OHKO. Na your Tangrowth already counter Gyarados. I will just use Hidden Power Ice on your Lucario
Suggestions?
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Azacin said:
On gyrados, use Waterfall/EQ, or Stone Edge/Ice Fang. I prefer the second, since it gives more coverage.
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I agree since Specmence kills Tangrowth with fire blast and kill Lucario while outspeed it. I think Ice Fang and Stone Edge will solve general SpecMence problem and Gyarados problem
 
slayer124 said:
I agree since Specmence kills Tangrowth with fire blast and kill Lucario while outspeed it. I think Ice Fang and Stone Edge will solve general SpecMence problem and Gyarados problem
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I don't think that I need Stone Edge, as Tangrowth already deals with Gyara. Ice fang would work well to kill SpecsMence, so I'll put that on there.

Any other suggestions?
 
Worried about Dugtrio. Since Dugtrio has both Aerial Ace and Sucker Punch, are all those speed EVs worth it? You will need something to sustain the frail mole trio, and my suggestion is HP. Keep full attack and Jolly, but go for some more HP. "I need all that speed otherwise Duggy's dead!" ok, arena trap something you know you can out speed without the EVs.

You what, in the above I probably made an ass of myself, so simply put, Dugtrio is tricky and probably needs removing, and replacing.

The good thing is that Dugtrio is resistant to Electric, saving Gyarados.
 
Run Aura Sphere / Dark Pulse / Vacuum Wave / HP Ice on Lucario.

If you're using Jolly AND a Life Orb on Dugtrio, I would really consider Stone Edge, since you're dropping a lot of power with those two choices. Rock Slide doesn't even really cut in on a Adamant CB Dugtrio, but it's up to you.

Your team is very weak to Ice/Electric, which is a big problem considering that is one of the most popular combinations of attacking types that people choose. You chould switch Starmie around into Forretress, and then depending on how you feel, swap out Tangrowth for something like Heatran. That would force you to use your own Gyarados as a Gyarados counter though, so it's up to you. Another option would be changing Tangrowth to Forretress, and ditching Rapid Spin on Starmie.
 
IggyBot said:
Run Aura Sphere / Dark Pulse / Vacuum Wave / HP Ice on Lucario.

If you're using Jolly AND a Life Orb on Dugtrio, I would really consider Stone Edge, since you're dropping a lot of power with those two choices. Rock Slide doesn't even really cut in on a Adamant CB Dugtrio, but it's up to you.

Your team is very weak to Ice/Electric, which is a big problem considering that is one of the most popular combinations of attacking types that people choose. You chould switch Starmie around into Forretress, and then depending on how you feel, swap out Tangrowth for something like Heatran. That would force you to use your own Gyarados as a Gyarados counter though, so it's up to you. Another option would be changing Tangrowth to Forretress, and ditching Rapid Spin on Starmie.
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Replaced Rock Slide on Duggy w/ Stone Edge.

If I swapped out Tangrowth for Fortress, I would lose my Pert counter. Is the best way to fix this to take Starmie, make it Modest, give it Scarf, switch EVs to 252 Spe/252 SpA/6 HP and give it Surf/Ice Beam/Grass Knot/Psychic? Grass Knot for bulky waters in general, Pert in specific. Psychic would work w/ Scarf to kill Cross and Modest ScarfGars, and has an added bonus of giving Starmie extra STAB.

If I get Fortress instead of Tangrowth, should I put Zap Cannon on it to counter DDGyara? If so, how many EVs should I put into SpA, if any?
 
I have also been wondering about the merits of Stealth Rock on Blissey over TWave. I like both moves, but a status would be nice. If anyone can suggest which would be better for my team, that would kick ass.
 
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