I hate showing people my team, but...here goes nothing

So here's the deal people. Lately I've been feeling like my team is going out of style. The metagame is ever changing, yet my team has pretty much remained the same all this time. This team is no longer great, it is now simply good/average. I want you guys to help me with this and bring my team back to it's former glory.

The overall plan with my team is to kill something with Gengar, then exploit the weakness I just made with my other Pokemon, preferably setting up a sweep.

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Gengar @ Black Sludge
Timid 252 HP / 252 Spd / 6 SDef

- Hypnosis
- Mean Look
- Perish Song
- Substitute

Wait...what? Exactly. Perish Trapping Gengar. Basically, this beast gets me at least one kill per match. Unless the lead scares me (Weavile would be an example) I'll simply put a sub up first. If they hit it down, I either put them to sleep or switch out. If they don't (most of the time this happens), I proceed to a mean look. At that point, it's more or less over. Your Pokemon is mine to send to the grave. The reason I say this is because I can simply put the Pokemon to sleep and use perish song, subbing and using hypnosis when needed. Then, switch out and I'm in the lead. Now, he's a big part of my team because he opens the way up for any member of my team depending on what he takes out. Hopefully my Gengar just took out their bulkiest physical Pokemon, leaving them open for a nite sweep.

I use substitute because it gives me a bit of insurance, rather than protect. You see, no one expects PT gengar, so they often switch out, giving me a free sub. That's why I find it to be better than protect.

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Jirachi @ Leftovers
Impish 240 HP / 76 Def / 136 Spd / 56 SDef

- Wish
- U-turn
- Zen Headbutt
- Reflect

Ah, the little guy that could. Jirachi is my sacrificial lamb if you will. When I'm unsure of what to send in for whatever reason, he comes out. He'll also take my status for me. Now, he helps me out immensely because Gengar is often weak after taking out a Pokemon due to using substitute however many times. Or Dragonite has already used his Yache berry (and thusly is likely at low percents) and I could use him for another attempt at a sweep. His wish helps every member on my team a lot. I gave him stealth rock because when people see my gengar come in for a second time, the surprise factor has worn off and they probably aren't going to switch to Blissey this time around. Almost each and every time I get Gengar in, it forces a switch. SR takes advantage of that. Plus, Togekiss and Gyarados have given me trouble in the past. Previously, I had Bronzong here but Jirachi has proven to be more useful.

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Dragonite @ Yache Berry
Jolly 58 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spd

- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Fire Punch
- Waterfall

Dragonite, simply put, is amazing. With Yache berry, I again get the element of surprise and usually a free dragon dance too. Now, think about it. If I play it smart, I can get Dragonite in to force a switch. That's one DD. Then, they use their ice attack and yache stops it from KOing him. That's two DDs. Most of the time, that will be enough to take out whatever wall is in my way. If it isn't he will put a huge dent in them, making said wall easy pickings for Deoxys. I chose Waterfall over Earthquake simply because they are about as effective, and if the only thing that is going to have me win the game is a lucky flinch from waterfall, then so be it. I do not rely on this at all, it's just a nice bonus.

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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Relaxed 252 HP / 128 Atk / 128 SDef

-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake
-Explosion

Bronzong. This ol fella is here in place of my Gliscor to allow some real insurance against dragons while also freeing up a slot for Jirachi by having SR. Explosion is a great touch here as well, due to the fact that I'll probably be having him switch in on dragon attacks repeatedly (Jirachi won't live forever). Also, he's my secondary "panic" button in general if need be.

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Deoxys-S @ Life Orb
Hasty 160 Atk / 96 Spd / 252 SAtk

- Psychic
- Superpower
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

I know that Deoxys' speed form is controversial right now. Do not bring that up, this is not the place for that. Anyway, Deoxys. I used to have a scarfed Porygon-Z in his spot, but I figured that Deoxys would do his job better because they have almost the same type coverage for their attacks. That, and having two psychic/bug/dark weak Pokemon isn't that big of a deal in my experience. Plus, he can switch attacks which is nice. As I mentioned when I was explaining Dragonite, I said that no matter what, he will at least weaken something. And Gengar will at least put something to sleep, if not kill something. Now, take those two and put them together and the opponent's team has got to be weakened at least somewhat. That's where this guy comes in. With TBolt being suggested from multiple people, my Deoxys now handles Gyarados just fine.

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold 20 HP / 252 Def / 236 SDef

- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Counter

She aint completely standard folks, so don't skip this section just because you see that sprite. My Blissey is Calm to throw off those calculations of what special attacks OHKO/2KO Blissey, and almost just for that. I have enough to take physical hits and the important ones she still survives due to the 252 HP EVs (Gyara waterfall, non CB Gross meteor mash, Mamoswine EQ, etc). I love TWave on Blissey. I use it on almost every first switch Blissey causes. Few things like getting paralyzed, and even fewer switch in to Blissey. The worst that could happen is I give a Garchomp or some other ground typed physical attacker a free switch, and I can handle that with Gliscor and Deoxys. Either that or Electivire comes in. Which, again, is dealt with by Gliscor or smart switching. Deoxys can take it out if vire isn't jolly. And if it is Jolly, then Gliscor can survive an ice punch with a decent amount of HP left. Counter exists as mostly a surprise against physical attackers that couldn't OHKO but would deal a big dent that I would otherwise have a problem with.

Thanks!

Changes:
U-Turn to Ice Fang on Gliscor
Blissey EVs from 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SAtk to 20 HP / 252 Def / 236 SDef
Deoxys Expert Belt to Life Orb
Gliscor to Bronzong
Blissey TBolt to Counter
Deoxys Shadow Ball to TBolt
Jirachi SR to Reflect

To test:
Heatran over Blissey
Dragonite Roost over Waterfall
Leafeon over Jirachi
 
Really nice, but I would put ice fang on gliscor over u turn as a little bit more insurance against dragons, as Deoxys-s isnt always the safest "counter", and then I would change gengar to the standard life orb set or choice specs set, as you'll be getting alot more than 1 kill per match with that, and it could help weaken the opposing team for dragonite and deoxys. Well, hoped this helped.
 
Really nice, but I would put ice fang on gliscor over u turn as a little bit more insurance against dragons, as Deoxys-s isnt always the safest "counter", and then I would change gengar to the standard life orb set or choice specs set, as you'll be getting alot more than 1 kill per match with that, and it could help weaken the opposing team for dragonite and deoxys. Well, hoped this helped.
Yeah, I was thinking of doing that. I'll change u-turn right now.

However, I'm going to object to the LO Gengar set for a reason that I forgot to mention in my Gengar's description and am now feeling stupid for having done so. Gengar is also my "panic button" for defensive set up, if you will. Say a Snorlax is getting in a couple of curses for whatever reason. I just realized that I'm in a bad spot and if he continues to curse, I'm going to lose. At that point, Gengar comes in and uses perish song, either forcing a switch or killing the snorlax. It can work on offensive set ups too, but it's a lot harder to pull off. I realize that explosion/destiny bond would probably be just as effective in some cases, but I've also got the factor of surprise on my side. No one, ever, has anticipated my Gengar being a perish trapper unless they've faced me before (one of the reasons I was reluctant to post this).
 
Really your corection desires really depend on what you need Gliscor to do. Gliscor handles Lucario and Tyranitar, barring ice beam, nicely. However, Sleeptalk Cresselia can more easily handle Infernape and Garchomp and helps eliminate prediction. Donphan, while not sporting a recovery move, could be considered to help with stall wars and keeping Dragonite alive through rapid spin and keeps earthquake on the team, while still hiting dragons hard.
 
Really your corection desires really depend on what you need Gliscor to do. Gliscor handles Lucario and Tyranitar, barring ice beam, nicely. However, Sleeptalk Cresselia can more easily handle Infernape and Garchomp and helps eliminate prediction. Donphan, while not sporting a recovery move, could be considered to help with stall wars and keeping Dragonite alive through rapid spin and keeps earthquake on the team, while still hiting dragons hard.
Cresselia is a no-no because while two dark/bug weaks isn't a big deal, three is excessive. Donphan isn't needed much either, as most of my team doesn't care too much about spikes/SR/TS. Thanks for the suggestion though.
 
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle a Bronzong lead @ lum Berry? Gyro Ball could pose some serious problems to Gengar. I suppose you probablly just sub when they Hypnotise or SR. Heh, probablly answered the question.

I can only see one glaring weakness (which means your team is fairly polished) - Mamoswine. It can come on Jirachi , Blissey or a weakened Gengar quite easily and proceeds to threaten everysingle member of your team with its STAB Attacks. However, I'm not sure how to fix that problem as taking a single member out would unbalance the team =/. If Event moves ever get unbanned on shoddy, I sugget maybe trying WishMence over Dragonite and Gyarados over Jirachi as it covers Mamo and Heracross while still maintaining wish support. You'd lose a Steel type to asorb Outrages and such but Dexys E can revenge kill them anyway.

Hope that helped in some small way.
 
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle a Bronzong lead @ lum Berry? Gyro Ball could pose some serious problems to Gengar. I suppose you probablly just sub when they Hypnotise or SR. Heh, probablly answered the question.

I can only see one glaring weakness (which means your team is fairly polished) - Mamoswine. It can come on Jirachi , Blissey or a weakened Gengar quite easily and proceeds to threaten everysingle member of your team with its STAB Attacks. However, I'm not sure how to fix that problem as taking a single member out would unbalance the team =/. If Event moves ever get unbanned on shoddy, I sugget maybe trying WishMence over Dragonite and Gyarados over Jirachi as it covers Mamo and Heracross while still maintaining wish support. You'd lose a Steel type to asorb Outrages and such but Dexys E can revenge kill them anyway.

Hope that helped in some small way.
Lum berry zong leads are troublesome, but like you said they're often confident that I won't be able to do much to them the first turn, so they'll use Hypnosis or SR.

Mamoswine is indeed a problem. In the best case scenario I hit it with Superpower from Deoxys and that's that. In the worst case scenario my Deoxys is gone, and I have to sacrifice something to get a safe switch in for Nite, who will suvive the ice attack thanks to yache and fire punch it into oblivion. If Nite is gone/doesn't have yache anymore in that case I'm in a really tight spot. Provided the Mamo is Jolly and without CB, I'm pretty sure Gliscor still survives an ice shard. However, every team has a weakness and if Mamoswine is my biggest one than I have little to worry about.

Event moves are looking to be unbanned, but I've never liked the idea of having a support move on something that's supposed to be attacking. I already find Dragonite to get stuck in some situations due to type coverage, and removing one slot wouldn't help on a Salamence. Gyarados seems good in theory, but since I've just ruled Mence out, something on my team should really have wish.

It did help. =)
 
On Blissey, Bold - 20 HP / 252 Def / 236 SDef lets you take hits on both sides of the spectrum better.

On Dragonite you may miss the extra power that EQ offers against those grounded steels, but its your call.

Deoxys needs Life Orb, the difference between Life Orb and Expert belt is very noticable. But if you do stick with Expert Belt, ThunderBolt would go nicely over Psychic for extra coverage.​
 
My question is how you deal with a lead gyara (or more importantly, an azelf). They commonly carry taunt, which absolutely rapes your gengar. What you fear in azelf is the fact that you can't even sleep if first, as it ouspeeds gengar. Just a thought
 
On Blissey, Bold - 20 HP / 252 Def / 236 SDef lets you take hits on both sides of the spectrum better.

On Dragonite you may miss the extra power that EQ offers against those grounded steels, but its your call.

Deoxys needs Life Orb, the difference between Life Orb and Expert belt is very noticable. But if you do stick with Expert Belt, ThunderBolt would go nicely over Psychic for extra coverage.​
Ok, I'll change those EVs now. Thanks.

I've never liked Life Orb at all, but I suppose that it doesn't matter on something with such paper thin defenses. I guess you're right at this point. Honestly I'm just biased towards LO. Changing. By the way, Deoxys needs a STAB attack so removing Psychic wouldn't be a good idea.

My question is how you deal with a lead gyara (or more importantly, an azelf). They commonly carry taunt, which absolutely rapes your gengar. What you fear in azelf is the fact that you can't even sleep if first, as it ouspeeds gengar. Just a thought
Gyara usually run away, as most Gengar carry TBolt. If the Gyara is ballsy enough to stay in, I'd probably switch to Blissey and take it out from there. Not the best plan, but this hardly ever happens and Gyara almost never gives me trouble. Azelf requires an immediate switch to Blissey (I would chose Jirachi to set up, but most Azelf have Flamethrower) as well. From there I can simply paralyze it and a paralyzed Azelf is a dead Azelf.
 
I would suggest a mamoswine somwhere on the team. Why? Because it's best counter, bronzong, will most of the time be a lead, and taken out by gengar. That leaves them completely open for a mamoswine sweep. It could fit over gliscor.
 
I would suggest a mamoswine somwhere on the team. Why? Because it's best counter, bronzong, will most of the time be a lead, and taken out by gengar. That leaves them completely open for a mamoswine sweep. It could fit over gliscor.
Mamo isn't as bulky as Gliscor though, and having more fire/fighting weaknesses isn't going to help. I see where you're coming from, but Gliscor's typing helps my team out a lot. And just because Bronzong is out of the picture doesn't mean that he can't be countered or have much of a problem being countered at all.
 
First off, I suggest max speed over you EV spread on Dragonite. Outspeeding Pokemon Dragonite and Max Speed Mamoswine is important. Other than that, I think you should put a little less pressure on Deoxys-e. (ie. not relying on him to revenge everything)
 
First off, I suggest max speed over you EV spread on Dragonite. Outspeeding Pokemon Dragonite and Max Speed Mamoswine is important. Other than that, I think you should put a little less pressure on Deoxys-e. (ie. not relying on him to revenge everything)
Dragonite has a tiny bit of bulk to save him from powerful ice attacks. Even with yache, they might KO otherwise. I don't put too much pressure on Deoxys, as it's not like I send him in when the opponent has four Pokemon left every time.
 
Id feel safe w/ a more pure mix wall in there probly for jirachi like cress or something other than that its pretty solid and plz rate the team i just posted XD
 
The only reason i say that is that even an evire coming in even w/out motor drive bonus could probly hurt gliscor pretty bad w/ max attack+LO or even OHKO w/ hp ice so cress seams like a good idea unless u need the jirachi for healin then this comment will hav no use to u
 
If you feel unsure about Gliscor, you might want to consider Swampert instead. He carries a STAB Ground attack, he's bulky enough to survive Garchomp and Vire assaults, and you have his Grass weak covered by... well, half of your team resist Grass so I don't have to point that out more.

You can go and put Stealth Rock for any Gyarados or Mamoswine you might see. Or you can change that a bit and try a bulkier version with Rest and Hammer Arm to deal with Mamoswine. Hammer Arm seems gimmick, but people won't expect that.
 
Calciphoce said:
Event moves are looking to be unbanned, but I've never liked the idea of having a support move on something that's supposed to be attacking. I already find Dragonite to get stuck in some situations due to type coverage, and removing one slot wouldn't help on a Salamence. Gyarados seems good in theory, but since I've just ruled Mence out, something on my team should really have wish.

I really hate this paragraph. Go read Tangerine's topic in Stark on roles, found here. Why do you think Salamence should be attacking? Sure, it has that nice base 135 attack and 110 SpA. So what? Don't overlook that base 95 HP and Intimidate, as well as some great resistances. Salamence is an excellent Wish user, and can deal some great damage on the side (something Jirachi has trouble doing). Salamence can double as your Heracross counter if need be, as you can EV it to survive a CB Stone Edge AND Stealth Rock. Off the top of my head, I think the spread I use is 252 HP / 52 Atk / 172 Def / 32 Speed with an Adamant nature. However, you can go Jolly with 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Speed and outspeed Heracross. Feel free to invest in attack if you want by taking out of defense as well.

Moving on, I'm really missing the point of Deoxys-E's moveset. Why are you using Shadow Ball over Thunderbolt again? Honestly, Thunderbolt is a much better choice than Shadow Ball, unless you're that scared of Azelf. And I really, really like Life Orb over Expert Belt. Life Orb allows you to nab those KO's with Psychic against pokemon that you can only hit neutral, which is a HUGE advantage.

What Puggy said is a decent idea though, as far as adding Salamence and Gyarados go. This really boosts up your physical defense as well, since having two intimidators can and will most likely fuck your opponent up.

Honestly, I'm a hater of Blissey. Not because she's annoying, but like Cresselia, she really doesn't do anything. I would really like to see Blissey go, and replaced with something like Heatran. You're extremely predjudice against fighting attacks as it is (especially if you add Gyarados and Salamence), and you don't have any problem with Ground attacks. Heatran's burn on Gyarados/Garchomp/Tyranitar/other shit is more valuable that paralyzing them in my opinion, though it's just personal preference. Just a suggestion, but really, I like being able to do more than just sit there most of the time :/

Good luck with your team, I think rating this finally gave me the inspiration I need to finish up my new team.
 
I'm not so sure about what Deoxys's speed reaches, but I believe Scarf Chomp might outrun it? I might be wrong. However, I'm not a huge fan of mixed sweepers, I believe that it should just be a Special Sweeper, that way you can keep a modest nature, and max out your special attack, letting you hit 317 SPA. Plus, you still have like 458 Speed if you max it out I believe.

I love calm bliss! Haha, it's what I used to run, exact same EV spread and all. It works really well as you might have noticed. However, another pokemon that works well defensive stat wise is Shuckle. You might want to check that out, however, I still think Blissey is better suited.

-- Rest of the team > All

Haha good game, it's not standard, yet it would thrive in the current metagame.
 
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Swampert does sound like a good idea, however it seems as though it would be just as effective, except Pert doesn't have knock off. I suppose I could use roar, but I only have SR. I'll test this, thanks!
I really hate this paragraph. Go read Tangerine's topic in Stark on roles, found here. Why do you think Salamence should be attacking? Sure, it has that nice base 135 attack and 110 SpA. So what? Don't overlook that base 95 HP and Intimidate, as well as some great resistances. Salamence is an excellent Wish user, and can deal some great damage on the side (something Jirachi has trouble doing). Salamence can double as your Heracross counter if need be, as you can EV it to survive a CB Stone Edge AND Stealth Rock. Off the top of my head, I think the spread I use is 252 HP / 52 Atk / 172 Def / 32 Speed with an Adamant nature. However, you can go Jolly with 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Speed and outspeed Heracross. Feel free to invest in attack if you want by taking out of defense as well.

I did. I'm not saying that Salamence should always attack and have a pure attacking set. What I'm saying is that my Dragonite needs to have three attacking moves in order to sweep efficiently. If I gave it wish, where would I put it? I need each and every move that Nite has. Switching to Mence wouldn't help and I already have wish support. I really don't see what you're getting at. I need no other Heracross counter on top of all of this.
Moving on, I'm really missing the point of Deoxys-E's moveset. Why are you using Shadow Ball over Thunderbolt again? Honestly, Thunderbolt is a much better choice than Shadow Ball, unless you're that scared of Azelf. And I really, really like Life Orb over Expert Belt. Life Orb allows you to nab those KO's with Psychic against pokemon that you can only hit neutral, which is a HUGE advantage.
I'm using shadow ball because he doesn't need an electric attack. Gyarados is already handled; Dusknoir and Cresselia are not. Plus, I'm trying to give my team maximum type coverage in a small way with shadow ball. Blissey already has TBolt and takes care of gyara just fine. Especialy when weakened from the SR and getting hit by psychic.

I have life orb on my Deoxys already, so I'm not sure why you're talking about it being put on over expert belt when I have already done so.
What Puggy said is a decent idea though, as far as adding Salamence and Gyarados go. This really boosts up your physical defense as well, since having two intimidators can and will most likely fuck your opponent up.
I've already discussed this and while two intimidators does sound nice, it's not enough to warrant me switching them.
Honestly, I'm a hater of Blissey. Not because she's annoying, but like Cresselia, she really doesn't do anything. I would really like to see Blissey go, and replaced with something like Heatran. You're extremely predjudice against fighting attacks as it is (especially if you add Gyarados and Salamence), and you don't have any problem with Ground attacks. Heatran's burn on Gyarados/Garchomp/Tyranitar/other shit is more valuable that paralyzing them in my opinion, though it's just personal preference. Just a suggestion, but really, I like being able to do more than just sit there most of the time :/

Good luck with your team, I think rating this finally gave me the inspiration I need to finish up my new team.
You just contradicted yourself by first saying she does nothing then saying she paralyzes other Pokemon. However, I do see where you're coming from with the Heatran thing and may indeed switch from Blissey to Heatran. I'll test it out. Thanks.

@Gators

Jolly scarfchomp outspeeds and KO's my Deoxys currently. However, if it is jolly and scarfed, even an outrage won't do much to Gliscor, so I don't find it worth giving up the extra EVs. I'll admit that I wasn't a huge fan of them either, but it turns out that I've had to use superpower quite a lot and it has payed off immensely. For that reason I'm chosing to stick with Superpower.
 
I did. I'm not saying that Salamence should always attack and have a pure attacking set. What I'm saying is that my Dragonite needs to have three attacking moves in order to sweep efficiently. If I gave it wish, where would I put it? I need each and every move that Nite has. Switching to Mence wouldn't help and I already have wish support. I really don't see what you're getting at. I need no other Heracross counter on top of all of this.

I know you don't need another Heracross counter, I was merely stating that Salamence can handle Heracross if you were to need it if Gliscor was taken out. And yes, Gyarados and Gengar all ready handle Heracross well, it was just something I was throwing out there.

I'm using shadow ball because he doesn't need an electric attack. Gyarados is already handled; Dusknoir and Cresselia are not. Plus, I'm trying to give my team maximum type coverage in a small way with shadow ball. Blissey already has TBolt and takes care of gyara just fine. Especialy when weakened from the SR and getting hit by psychic.

Considering Shadow Ball is going to 3HKO both Cresselia and Dusknoir, who have Thunderwave / Shadow Sneak to cripple Deoxys-E, I would still like Thunderbolt. Personal preference though I suppose.

I have life orb on my Deoxys already, so I'm not sure why you're talking about it being put on over expert belt when I have already done so.

My fault, I somehow misread it o_O

I've already discussed this and while two intimidators does sound nice, it's not enough to warrant me switching them.

I know you discussed it, I was simply adding my two cents on why it would be helpful.

You just contradicted yourself by first saying she does nothing then saying she paralyzes other Pokemon. However, I do see where you're coming from with the Heatran thing and may indeed switch from Blissey to Heatran. I'll test it out. Thanks.

I don't really count taking hits while throwing out Thunderwave every once in a while as doing something, but that may just be me. But yeah, Heatran's 30% burn rate is just a bonus, considering Lava Plume / Earth Power can do a lot of damage to a lot of pokemon. That's why I prefer it over Blissey.

And uh, sorry about the hostile tone of my first post, I don't really know what made that happen but it certainly wasn't intentional.
 
I know you don't need another Heracross counter, I was merely stating that Salamence can handle Heracross if you were to need it if Gliscor was taken out. And yes, Gyarados and Gengar all ready handle Heracross well, it was just something I was throwing out there.



Considering Shadow Ball is going to 3HKO both Cresselia and Dusknoir, who have Thunderwave / Shadow Sneak to cripple Deoxys-E, I would still like Thunderbolt. Personal preference though I suppose.

My fault, I somehow misread it o_O

I know you discussed it, I was simply adding my two cents on why it would be helpful.

I don't really count taking hits while throwing out Thunderwave every once in a while as doing something, but that may just be me. But yeah, Heatran's 30% burn rate is just a bonus, considering Lava Plume / Earth Power can do a lot of damage to a lot of pokemon. That's why I prefer it over Blissey.

And uh, sorry about the hostile tone of my first post, I don't really know what made that happen but it certainly wasn't intentional.
My response to all oh this is "Ok". :P
 
This is a pretty gorg team, but it has some problems.

The main problem with this team is that you can't really stop Pokemon like Weavile and Mamoswine from wreaking havoc. To fix this problem, I suggest making the following changes. Firstly, I would change Gliscor to Bronzong, with a moveset of Stealth Rock, Gyro Ball, Earthquake, Explosion. This means that it can still deal with Pokemon like DDTar and Garchomp while not giving Pokemon like Infernape or Lucario possible free switches, and if you can predict a Magnezone coming in, you can hit it too.

I suggest changing Stealth Rock on Jirachi to Reflect, simply because it will help with the loss of the Fighting resist that Gliscor provided. I also suggest changing Thunderbolt on Blissey to Counter, since it would really help against Mamoswine, who has no hope of OHKOing you. It would also go very well with Deoxys, since if you predict a set up move, Deoxys can come in, while if you predict that they will expect Deoxys, you can surprise them by OHKOing with Blissey.

Since this would mean Gyarados isn't threatened by much, Shadow Ball on Deoxys-S should be changed to Thunderbolt.

Finally, so that your team is not just worn down by Fighting types, I suggest changing Waterfall on Dragonite to Roost.
 
This is a pretty gorg team, but it has some problems.

The main problem with this team is that you can't really stop Pokemon like Weavile and Mamoswine from wreaking havoc. To fix this problem, I suggest making the following changes. Firstly, I would change Gliscor to Bronzong, with a moveset of Stealth Rock, Gyro Ball, Earthquake, Explosion. This means that it can still deal with Pokemon like DDTar and Garchomp while not giving Pokemon like Infernape or Lucario possible free switches, and if you can predict a Magnezone coming in, you can hit it too.

I agree with Weavile and Mamo giving me trouble, and Zong does sound like a good idea at this point. I'll do that. I trust your judgment highly.

I suggest changing Stealth Rock on Jirachi to Reflect, simply because it will help with the loss of the Fighting resist that Gliscor provided. I also suggest changing Thunderbolt on Blissey to Counter, since it would really help against Mamoswine, who has no hope of OHKOing you. It would also go very well with Deoxys, since if you predict a set up move, Deoxys can come in, while if you predict that they will expect Deoxys, you can surprise them by OHKOing with Blissey.

I see what you mean with Reflect. That fighting resistance was a big one and something to take it's spot would be a good addition. That and it can help Nite or Gengar more too. I've never actually used Counter on Blissey, but now thatyou mention it it could really help out.

Since this would mean Gyarados isn't threatened by much, Shadow Ball on Deoxys-S should be changed to Thunderbolt.

I don't want to sound egotistical at all, but I probably would have changed that if you hadn't mentioned it.

Finally, so that your team is not just worn down by Fighting types, I suggest changing Waterfall on Dragonite to Roost.
This will go on my test list instead of just adding it to my team straight away, as the type coverage that I would lose is noticeable. I do already have Wish support, but Roost could help as well.
 
I'm not liking Jirachi + Bronzong. I dont Jirachi is doing to much anymore as Bronzong handles the things that Jirachi did just fine. I'm also feeling a Garchomp weak and lack of real physical bulk.

Therefor I suggest replacing Jirachi with Leafeon. Running Wish / Protect / Leaf Blade / Yawn and Impish - 252 HP / 24 Atk / 16 Def / 216 Spe.
- 16 Def gives you your first 'free' point
- 216 Spe lets you outspeed Adamant Lucario if you had to finish him off and Leaf Blade does good damage even though resisted.
- Rest in Atk.
A Jolly Garchomp's +2 Outrage fails to OHKO, and you can Yawn and Protect if Sleep Clause is not activated. Otherwise you can Knock of a third of his health off, meaning Yache Berry won't screw Deoxys over.

Leafeon also helps with Swampert, as taking him out could be a problem and he could just haunt Dragonite all day long.
Leafeon is also a great Gyarados counter, as Blissey is a rather bad counter.
Having a UU on your team is always cool.

Please try it before you knock it. Finding a Pokemon that could handle the aforementioned problems and keep Wish support was no easy task.

Good Luck with the team!
 
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