I have returned (I'm a Dragoon...)

I took a lot of time off Shoddy because I was bored with school and was overall running out of creativity when it came to teams. But the past few days in summer have been pretty boring...so I decided to make a new team. I don't even remember what this team was before (had something to do with Toxic Spikes...), but now it has transformed into what I believe is a Rotom boosting sweeper team.

EDIT: Okay, now its another Lucario sweeping team

The lineup:
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This team is basically a balanced, bulky offensive team I suppose. Transition between pokemon, weaken the opposition, etc. Really not too much in terms of strategy, as any pokemon can sweep given the opportunity, and that is what makes it pretty cool, the flexibility. Though Rotom is often the guy that sweeps.

Now:

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Empoleon @ Shucca Berry
Torrent
52 Def/104 Atk/100 Spd/252 SpA
Rash
-Stealth Rock
-Surf
-Aqua Jet
-Grass Knot

Pretty sexy lead. Sorta like Metagross...but IMO better. Sets up rocks reliably and does a very very good job against other leads. Let's take a look:

Metagross: I can set up SR, then at least Surf it once if its running EQ+BP. If it doesn't have EQ, this is a very easy match up. If it lacks BP, I nail it with a torrent boosted Surf before I go down.

Azelf: Surf+Aqua Jet=KO with these EVs

Jirachi: I can sorta 2hko bulkier versions with Surf, easily 2hko the faster ones. They can't hurt me much though.

Swampert: Grass Knot KOs around 60% of the time, Shucca lets me take any EQ

Aerodactyl: Easy as hell, Surf+Aqua

Infernape: I usually switch to Gyara or Latias. I lose this one, unless I run Chople.

Hippowdon: He better run, as Surf is going to hurt bad. I usually just set up rocks. His EQ is tempered by Shucca

Tyranitar: Surf+Shucca allows me to beat this thing, which saves a lot of trouble later on.

Bronzong: Usually get my rocks up, Surf is a 3hko I believe

Ninjask: Get my rocks up, go to scizor, U Turn

Other leads: KO Naive Heatran with Surf.

I use Shucca Berry, but I've also tried Sash and Chople. Chople comes in handy latest in the game, when I can take a CC and then KO back with a Torrent boosted Surf. Also lets me beat Nape leads. Sash works great in the beginning obviously, and helps handle random surprises. But it gets crappy very easily. Meanwhile, Shucca is fairly useful overall.

Still experimenting, I plan on trying out Hydro Pump soon.

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Latias @ Choice Scarf
Levitate
4 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spd
Timid
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Thunderbolt
-Trick

Thank you Bad Ass. This thing seriously saves my ass against sooo many threats, it is not even funny. DDMence, DDGyara, DDTar, rest talk stat uppers....the list goes on. Between these 3 moves and trick, the majority of threats I will face are completely covered. Latias can pull some nice sweeps off too with Surf and Thunderbolt, and those Draco Meteors can really dent switch ins hard.

The nice thing is that early game, Latias can 3hko Scizor with Surf or Thunderbolt early game, and not get KOed by Pursuit or U Turn at times when no rocks are up.

Pursuit is what really annoys Latias...but my next pokemon really takes advantage of it.

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Extreme Speed
-Crunch

Lucario is a total beast, I swapped him over Heatran after I put a Scarf on Latias. I easily move in following all the dark attacks around these days, and start popping out hurt. He goes so well with Scizor, who sucks up an attack then U Turns to Lucario, who can then pull off a finishing blow. Anyway, Lucario sweeps most of the time. Cleans like a really nice ass mop between Extreme Speed and Close Combat.

I swapped back to Crunch because I find that stuff like Salamence/Gyarados are usually dead early game anyway thanks to Latias, and I usually never do a good job at luring in Rotom except with Scizor.

I go with Adamant because the extra power is more important for my uses of Lucario as a hit and runner and a cleaner.
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Scizor @ Choice Band
Technician
172 HP/252 Atk/4 Spd/80 SpD
Adamant
-Bullet Punch
-U Turn
-Superpower
-Pursuit

You know it is coming....Scizor just fits my team perfectly. Awesome transition pokemon, as he has many resistances that my team needs, and can easily U Turn to something like Heatran to take fire attacks.

U Turn is just a sick move that really helps weaken the opposing team, scouts, and allows me to transition between my pokemon. Bullet Punch revenge kills, and under the right circumstances, allows Scizor to simply do a Bullet Punch sweep. Superpower is rarely used, though I sometimes throw one out to hit stuff like Snorlax, or Maggy/Heatran switch ins. Of course, Pursuit kicks Gengar/Latias ass, 2 pokemon that also severely annoy my team.

I used some funky EVs...Max attack is obvious. 4 Spd to outspeed Vaporeon. I threw some HP Evs out for SpD, as I find Scizor constantly needs to take special hits, like DPulse and Shadow Ball

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Gyarados @ Leftovers
Intimidate
4 Def/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Bounce
-Stone Edge

I love Gyarados....again he provides some sick resistances (and his weaknesses are easily covered), and also provides intimidate. He does a dandy job when it comes to setting up Scizor, beating Lucario, and switching into a wide variety of other pokemon and setting up for sweeps.

Waterfall and Stone Edge are no brainers, but I chose Bounce for it's ability to severely hurt any weakened Celebi, Vaporeon, and Starmie. It was a bit more useful back when I had toxic spikes, but I still enjoy using Bounce. The paralysis is fairly nice, though the accuracy can be annoying. Not having EQ can be a bother when it comes to something like Lucario, but oh well.

Jolly is just sexy because there is nothing quite like KOing Jolteon after the DD. Again, it was more useful with TSpikes around as the extra power wasn't needed.

Gyarados usually has an early game sweep, but I sometimes save him for a final sweep, which he usually pulls off after his counters are dead.

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Rotom W @ Leftovers
Levitate
176 HP/120 Def/212 Spd
Timid
-Substitute
-Charge Beam
-Shadow Ball
-HP Fighting

Pretty awesome I must say. Sorta like CMJirachi...except this one fit my team better. When combined with Taunt Heatran to make Blissey set up, and Latias to take out Tyranitar, this thing can pull off sweeps fairly easily.

176 HP EVs means that Swampert's Ice Beam can't break Substitute, which is pretty nice because Ice Beam+EQ Swampert is otherwise very annoying for my team. 212 Spd to outspeed Jolly Mamo, and the rest into Def, as a secondary Gyara switch in, just in case Latias is dead.

Charge Beam and Shadow Ball are no brainers. The last move is a bit trickier for me, but I opted for Thunderbolt because I hate bulky waters, and it deals with Scizor a bit better. Sometimes I regret it though, what with Magnezone resisting all my attacks, and not getting that cool 4x damage if Tyranitar is not dead. I've changed T Bolt to HP Fighting, for the better coverage. It works out fairly well.

I chose the W version because the fear of Hydro Pump can stop Heatran from switching in, at least at the beginning.

I copied this threat list from...someone. Thank you for it.

Threat List

Blissey - Not much of a problem. She usually switches in on Heatran, I taunt her and make her run. Otherwise she comes in on Latias. In both cases, I can go to Scizor to try and U Turn. Psycho Shift can move any paralysis/toxic she feeds Latias as well.

Bronzong - Heatran scares him off...he can't do much to Scizor.

Cresselia - I generally send Scizor in, and just start U Turning. Otherwise Rotom does a find job too. Overall, most of my pokemon handle her easily.

Donphan - Rotom blocks the spin and deals some decent damage with Shadow Ball. He isn't doing much else.

Dusknoir - Heatran can taunt, suck up WoWs, and deal good damage. EQ can be a bit scary, but Shuca usually cushions the surprise. Rotom can deal with some Shadow Ball too.

Forretress - Rotom can block the first spin, then swap to Heatran for Payback and scare it off.

Gliscor - Most of my team kicks its ass. It only gives trouble to Heatran, who has Shuca+HP Ice to deal

Gyarados - Eh, Rotom does a decent job against defensive Gyarados, Tbolting it to hell. It doesn't do much, since Scizor is usually U Turning around anyway. Offensive Gyarados is much more complicated, as he can dish some serious pain to my team. Latias can usually survive an attack and Draco Meteor it, my own Gyarados can do some intimidate stuff. Rotom is unfortuntely KOed without additional defensive investment. Scary, but it can never set up basically.

Hippowdon - Doesn't block much against this team. Latias generally does a good job with Surf. But it doesn't do much except start annoying sandstorm.

Jirachi - Heatran is easy to use. Stops most if not all forms if Jirachi, including CM versions.

Rotom-A - Again, Heatran is my go to guy. can suck up any WoWs or overheats, and only fears something like Hydro Pump.

Skarmory - Heatran again. Rotom can set up as well.

Snorlax- Annoying. I can Taunt him with Heatran at least, switch to Scizor on the body slam/EQ, then scare him off.

Suicune - Can be bothersome. Rotom/Latias can switch in to deal with it a little bit, but after too many CMs...I'm done. Can be very bothersome indeed.

Swampert - I usually bring in Scizor and just U Turn to Gyara or Latias, proceed to hit it hard with neutral shots. Heatran's Taunt is useful, and allows Latias to switch in freely.

Tentacruel - Tspikes are useless, which is nice. Rotom switches in and blocks, can scare the thing off with Thunderbolts. If I want to hit it hard, Mamo's EQ really kicks its ass, though I have to be careful for Surf.

Tyranitar - CB usualy comes in on Latias as she Surfs, then she KOs with Draco Meteor. Sometimes they come in on Heatran's Taunt, I can move to Scizor to threaten.

Vaporeon - Rather annoying...Rotom takes quite some pain, but at least forces it to run. Latias can throw Meteors around, and roost off/psycho shift any annoyances.

Zapdos - Heatran usually switches in on Heat Waves, Latias deals easily, Rotom can set up against defensive versions. Really a non issue.

Azelf - Bite+Ice Shard the lead, other versions have Scizor to deal with.

Breloom - Rotom does a semi decent job, Heatran can deal with some of the non F Punch versions as well. Mamo/Scizor can also do stuff. Its annoying for Gyarados though. Can be an annoyance...after all, it is Breloom.

Dragonite - A non-issue again. Can't set up against anything bar Heatran, who easily HP Ices it.

Dugtrio - Annoying, but he can only trap Heatran really. Scizor/Mamo will kick his ass. Sucker Punch can be slightly annoying though.

Electivire - Rotom does an excellent job in walling and he has my only electric attack. I don't see him doing anything else.

Empoleon - I hate the petaya bastard. I usually have to go through complicated maneuvers to deal. It usually sets up on Latias.

Flygon - Just switch to a resist....and Heatran can HP Ice after the Shuca absorbs.

Gallade - A non issue again, Rotom can shadow ball it to hell. It isn't doing much.

Gengar - Scizor...

Heatran - My own Heatran usually kills em, otherwise Latias deals with any kind well.

Heracross - Rotom is decent to take CC's/Megahorns.

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Infernape - Latias is all I really need, though sometimes Gyara can get the job done

Jolteon - Meh, its annoying. Jolly Gyara can sometimes lure him in and kill, which is cool. Otherwise I need to use Latias/Rotom/Scizor and guess what move it uses. Mamo can come in handy.

Kingdra - Again, annoying. Usually try to get it to outrage with Latias/Gyara, then use Scizor/Heatran to beat it down.

Latias - Heatran actually covers it fairly well, and of course I'm packing Scizor. Can be a bit dangerous right at the beginning when I don't know what to expect

Lucario - Between Gyara/Rotom, it is mostly covered.

Machamp - Can be annoying. Hopefully I hit it on the switch in, go to Rotom to take the Dynamic Punch, then swap to Heatran for the Payback and Fire Blast it.

Magnezone - Doesn't do much to my team with its poor movepool.

Mamoswine - Gyarados is fairly solid since it outspeeds all Mamo.

Metagross - Poor Metagross relaly can't do anything to Scizor and Rotom.

Porygon-Z - Scizor to kill, otherwise I rely on resists

Rhyperior - I rarely face this, but 4x Surf or Waterfall sounds nice.

Salamence - Always dangerous. I generally take it out with Heatran early game though.

Scizor - Doesn't do much, since Latias can kill on the switch in.

Starmie - Rotom/Latias/Scizor have this covered

Suicune - CMs are annoying, but I can Taunt the CM with Heatran when it switches in, then go to Rotom

Togekiss - Rotom deals with this well, Heatran somewhat too

Tyranitar - Dangerous, but between Scizor, Latias luring it in, and Heatran's Taunt, it isn't doo bad

Weavile - Scizor and Gyara got this guy down

Yanmega - I rarely see this, but I imagine Ice Shard, Rotom, and BP have it covered
 
i just played this team on the ladder, and i must say when seeing it in action, there are quite a few things that give this team trouble. i look at what the team attempts to accomplish. heatran taunts any attempts of set up, then you lure out a bunch of things that give sub charge beam rotom difficulties, then launch a sweep team with either rotom or gyarados. so i'm going to see if i can help you accomplish your ultimate goal better than you do currently. there are quite a few things i see that is wrong. firstly, life orb gyarados is an absolute menace to this team. once latias has taken a eensy weensy tiny miny bit of damage (around 5% if sr is up), gyarados completely sweeps you. so to start, i'm suggesting a rotom set that carries a little more bulk in exchange for power. 120 special attack won't get you any notable koes that i am aware of, but a +1 lo waterfall will not ko when you move the special attack evs into defense.

ok my next problem is that you rely on heatran WAY too much to stop a lot of boosting threats by taunting, while they dont need a boost to ohko you. examples are suicune, gyarados, and tyranitar. you either need a scarfed revenge killer, or something that checks all of those threats. personally, i'd suggest a scarfed revenge killer. lots of things can grab a boost and just completely sweep you! the best thing i see so far to remedy this is to scarf your latias. i realize you like the power that surf and draco meteor bring, but scarfing latias is truly for the best. it covers up your weaks to ddmence, ddgyara, ddtar, empoleon, ddkingdra, suicune, and curselax are all handled in one way or another by scarfing your latias. trick is also fantastic for stopping boosters who use restalk.

Latias (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Trick
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gl with your team, and i hope i helped!
 
Your team is very solid so just a few suggestions:

First, you have quite a bit of a DDTar weakness (the ones with babiri berry). A moveset of Stone Edge / Crunch / Fire Punch (the Standard moveset actually) just about 6-0es you since it can survive a Scizor Bullet Punch. Gyarados intimidate somewhat helps not getting swept, but it's not too reliable. I didn't think Tyranitar had an opportunity to set up anywhere until I saw Rotom had Thunderbolt over HP Fighting. You don't really lose out on too much switching Thunderbolt to HP Fighting since Rotom beats most defensive bulky waters anyways.

Speaking of waters, only the Offensive water types like LO Cune and LODDGyara. (and empoleon, but you already stated that) really damage your team. A +1 LO Suicune can probably get past Rotom and survive a Draco Meteor thanks to the SDef boost. Everything else falls. Thankfully, LO Cune isn't too common. +1 LO DD Gyara is a problem since your Rotom isn't particularly defensive.

The only other thing I somewhat have to question is your Mamoswine. I mean, all it does it set up SR and is more like a suicide lead w/ Sash etc. I personally don't find them too useful on a fairly bulky team like yours. It can help against Salamence, but you have CB Scizor to check it (it can't sweep with Outrage) and Latias can switch in and force a switch on anything bar a dragon move. and I'd actually prefer to see a Jirachi lead there. A Scarf Jirachi is very helpful against Gyarados and Iron Head checks Tyranitar as well. (it could utilize Trick and Stealth Rock also) IIRC, a Scarf Jirachi also has the potential to outspeed Empoleon after an Agility. Alternatively, you could go defensive with it.

But anyways, your team is very solid. Nice job.
 
Thanks for the rate Bad Ass. Scarfing Latias seems like an absolutely amazing thing to do...except for Pursuit.

And for that, I am considering Scarfing Latias because it does seems so amazing, but if I do, I also want to throw a Lucario in here to really punish those who would Pursuit my Latias with CB Scizor/Tyranitar. Any feedback about that?

With Latias scarfed, I can probably keep my Mamo lead, as dual priority is useful and I still enjoy all the leads he manages to beat and the dual priority on my team. I'll probalby experiment with some more traditional stuff like Metagross and Azelf though.
 
Alright Bad Ass I took your advice and I like it a lot. I've made a lot of other changes too though, and I like the changes a lot.

I switched Mamoswine for Empoleon, put a Scarf on latias, and swapped Heatran for Lucario.

It is even better now.
 
Its a 2hko 48% of the time against 252 HP/0 SpD, but if he is running something like EQ+MM+SR+Explosion so it can't BP you, your 2nd Surf is torrent boosted and you kill it.

EDIT: I'm changing it the Shucca, so this is less of an issue. I also plan on trying out Hydro Pump, which would also solve this problem.
 
I wasn't aware bulky Metagross leads existed....like I've said, I took a fairly long break from Shoddy. You are probably one of the few people who actually use it. It's too uncommon to really address.

Hydro Pump definitely seems quite appealing though...it would let me take out Atk EVs and make him bulkier.
 
This looks like a good team, I dont think that I have ever used an Empoleon lead (or seen one for that matter), its always the Petaya. While this team does have a DD t-tar weakness, I think that they are dropping in usage. I'm not sure if bounce Gyarados is using it to its best potential, but thats your call.

And yes, Bulkygross isnt 2HKOed, but thats not of importance, as I would switch against one if I was using Empoleon.

GL!
 
Empoleon: As this is a lead I've never seen before, a question about it I have is what does that attack investment get you? From the looks of it, it's there as a priority move after sashes are broken, in which case, no attack investment is required.

Lucario: A concern I have is slapping around a Stone Edge, only for it to miss and get either intimidated by aforementioned switchins or lose two due to Zapdos' Pressure. Ice Punch, which also nails Gliscor, could work, but it's your preference.

Gyarados: Personally, I abhore using Bounce without Substitute. Celebi lures in the Bounce, and Magnezone comes in and tbolts for the kill. Gyara also needs a +3 Waterfall just to OHKO Magnezone.

Final Comments: On your threat list, you label Empoleon with red. Latias can simply come in afterwards with tbolt and outrun if empoleon only has 1 agility. Even after Peteya, Ice Beam fails to KO even minimally specially defensive Latias given with enough leftovers recovery time (which is necessary for getting a good Peteya boost) after SR, doing 81.1%-95.7%. Grass Knot variants, though less common, have nothing. Your team also hates Twave.
 
This looks like a good team, I dont think that I have ever used an Empoleon lead (or seen one for that matter), its always the Petaya. While this team does have a DD t-tar weakness, I think that they are dropping in usage. I'm not sure if bounce Gyarados is using it to its best potential, but thats your call.

And yes, Bulkygross isnt 2HKOed, but thats not of importance, as I would switch against one if I was using Empoleon.

GL!
Thanks for the rate.

Yeah I've also had some 2nd thoughts about Bounce. But Bounce can be a very useful move.

DDTar is really a non-issue now with Latias+Scizor. He simply can't live through both a BP and a Surf. Even if he did, I'm still packing some Aqua Jet and Extreme Speed to get rid of the rest.

Empoleon: As this is a lead I've never seen before, a question about it I have is what does that attack investment get you? From the looks of it, it's there as a priority move after sashes are broken, in which case, no attack investment is required.

Lucario: A concern I have is slapping around a Stone Edge, only for it to miss and get either intimidated by aforementioned switchins or lose two due to Zapdos' Pressure. Ice Punch, which also nails Gliscor, could work, but it's your preference.

Gyarados: Personally, I abhore using Bounce without Substitute. Celebi lures in the Bounce, and Magnezone comes in and tbolts for the kill. Gyara also needs a +3 Waterfall just to OHKO Magnezone.

Final Comments: On your threat list, you label Empoleon with red. Latias can simply come in afterwards with tbolt and outrun if empoleon only has 1 agility. Even after Peteya, Ice Beam fails to KO even minimally specially defensive Latias given with enough leftovers recovery time (which is necessary for getting a good Peteya boost) after SR, doing 81.1%-95.7%. Grass Knot variants, though less common, have nothing. Your team also hates Twave.

Surf does kill the sash, but the attack EVs are needed to allow Aqua Jet to finish off Azelf after the Surf. This is crucial, otherwise Azelf can not only SR, but also Taunt or Explode on me.

When using Adamant, I'm a much bigger fan of Stone Edge. You get outrun by Gliscor anyway. Stone Edge is useful for throwing out, as after SR damage, Stone Edge is going to seriously batter Zapdos/Gyarados/Salamence. I'm not too worried about the misses; after all, the odds are still in my favor 4/5 times, and my team covers those three pokemon pretty well (well, Scarf Latias does at least).

Yeah...like I said above, Bounce is a bit iffy. However, I'm usually not concerned about 1hkoing Maggy anyway, as U Turns from Scizor whittle his HP down to the point it isn't necessary. As for the whole "lure" thing, it takes an excessive number of switches for them to get it down, since first Celebi doesn't see the bounce coming, then she switches to maggy, then back to celebi, then to maggy again. Perhaps some Spikes somewhere on this team would be nice, but the damage that SR does rack up considerably throughout the game, especially because I rarely DD up early game anyway.

Yeah I forgot to update the threat list, Empy is not an issue anymore.
 
I've swapped Stone Edge for Crunch on Lucario. Excellent results, as fliers like Gyara/Sala/Zapdos are alreay heavily weakened SR and Scizor's U Turns by the time Lucario comes out to clean.
 
Hello.

I just played you a few minutes ago on shoddy. I really think you should run Life Orb on Gyarados for the extra kick against Starmie / Latias / Celebi. Jolly Life Orb DDGyara is a huuuge sweeper atm, and with Life Orb you get the extra power that you may feel you are lacking sometimes because of the 44 point drop in power from Adamant to Jolly. Life Orb DD Bounce easily OHKOs Celebi, Starmie, and Latias, which i'm almost positive Leftovers doesn't always do that. This is especially important because in our match you did not even manage to get Stealth Rock up, just went straight for the KO on LeadGross, which tells me alot about the way you play with the team; you don't always aim to get Stealth Rock up.

Next off, those 120 Def EVs on Rotom are going to prevent you from 2HKOing Blissey at +6, and you need Special Attack on there in general. More special attack means a heftier hit on Lucario and Tyranitar, and the hit on Lucario is especially important, because you seem to be reliant on Rotom to stop it, which imo is kind of a bad idea since HP Fighting does not KO. I highly suggest changing the 120 Def to 120 SAtk for all the reasons I mentioned above.

Gengar is going to give you headpains if it manages to get a Sub up against any of your mons. Sub / Thunderbolt / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball is really going to be tough to handle. Focus Blast is a 2HKO against Scizor with Stealth Rock down meaning you can't just 2HKO with Pursuit and with using Bullet Punch you risk getting trapped by Magnezone, which is Sub Gengar's #1 partner thanks to the ability to trap BP locked Scizor.

It seems if anything needs to go, it's Empoleon. If you want to try out an excellent anti lead, you can always try Specs Heatran or Magmortar. They have an excellent surprise factor and can generally deal with the same leads that Empoleon can. Kabutops is also a fun lead i have been toying around with recently and used to a lot of success in the past. It has the same basic premise as the Empoleon lead you use.

Kabutops (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet

Just incase you want to try it, there it is.

Good luck!
 
Hello.

I just played you a few minutes ago on shoddy. I really think you should run Life Orb on Gyarados for the extra kick against Starmie / Latias / Celebi. Jolly Life Orb DDGyara is a huuuge sweeper atm, and with Life Orb you get the extra power that you may feel you are lacking sometimes because of the 44 point drop in power from Adamant to Jolly. Life Orb DD Bounce easily OHKOs Celebi, Starmie, and Latias, which i'm almost positive Leftovers doesn't always do that. This is especially important because in our match you did not even manage to get Stealth Rock up, just went straight for the KO on LeadGross, which tells me alot about the way you play with the team; you don't always aim to get Stealth Rock up.

Next off, those 120 Def EVs on Rotom are going to prevent you from 2HKOing Blissey at +6, and you need Special Attack on there in general. More special attack means a heftier hit on Lucario and Tyranitar, and the hit on Lucario is especially important, because you seem to be reliant on Rotom to stop it, which imo is kind of a bad idea since HP Fighting does not KO. I highly suggest changing the 120 Def to 120 SAtk for all the reasons I mentioned above.

Gengar is going to give you headpains if it manages to get a Sub up against any of your mons. Sub / Thunderbolt / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball is really going to be tough to handle. Focus Blast is a 2HKO against Scizor with Stealth Rock down meaning you can't just 2HKO with Pursuit and with using Bullet Punch you risk getting trapped by Magnezone, which is Sub Gengar's #1 partner thanks to the ability to trap BP locked Scizor.

It seems if anything needs to go, it's Empoleon. If you want to try out an excellent anti lead, you can always try Specs Heatran or Magmortar. They have an excellent surprise factor and can generally deal with the same leads that Empoleon can. Kabutops is also a fun lead i have been toying around with recently and used to a lot of success in the past. It has the same basic premise as the Empoleon lead you use.

Kabutops (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet

Just incase you want to try it, there it is.

Good luck!

Thanks for the rate august. I'll definitely the LO, as the power is most certainly going to be appreciated by Gyara.

I've moved 120 EVs to SpA, the extra pop is definitely appreciated against opposing Rotom, bulky waters, slower Heatran, and T-Tar. Have yet to face Lucario, I usually use Gyarados first for the intimidate, as LO Waterfall will deal some very impressive damage.

I've actually already tried that Kabutops lead; it was decent, and actually it was what led me to try Empoleon. I'm still experimenting with Empoleon. Hydro Pump allows hiim to almost always set up rocks against something like Metagross (SR, survives the EQ+BP, Hydro Pump back), and I've been experimenting with Focus Sash as well to always get those rocks up.
 
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