I make it ra- I mean Sunny Da- Sandsto- OU Team

Penance

Hello Smogon Community this is my first RMT ever on any forum so don't take it easy on me. Sorry for the lack of nifty images, I'm posting on a cellular. But you guys (or it's.) can read.

Sorry for no Team Building Process but VBulletin sucks and signed me out in the middle of me writing the Team Building Process and I'm pissed.

Lead Poké

Heatran @ Lum Berry
Trait: Flash Fire
EV Spread:252 HP/72 SpD/176 Spe
Nature: Calm
Moveset:
-Stealth Rox
-Lava Plume
-Earth Power
-Roar
Explanation: People get faked out by no balloon so they assume scarf its nice his main purpose is dealing with sun leads since previously my team said "yo sun set up on me I'll be waiting." He also sets up rocks, sponges hits and gives some. Lum berry is so i dont get messed up later by twave. Moveset is standard. Roar was added to phaze Volcarona, we don't want it to set up do we?

I chose Heatran over other rock leads because he can actually deal with Sun Teams which pain me ever so. Also he loves killing Ferrothorn and Scizor. A recurring problem is I can't lead with Heatran 80% of the time.




Cloyster (F) @ Leftovers (Pizza)
Trait: Skill Link
EV Spread: 252 HP/124 Def/124 SpA
Nature: Modest
Moveset:
-Spikes
-Toxic Spikes
-Scald
-Icicle Spear
Explanation: He sets up spikes and toxic spikes. If I see something without a spinner or weather inducer (bar hippowdon and abomasnow) he leads. Leftovers insures long life. Scald is epic I usually hit steels with it. Icicle Spear is for coverage and 125 base power. (thanks skill link)

I chose Cloyster because of his ability to set up spikes and t spikes. Forteress wasn't chosen because all he does is add another fire weakness and another steel. Steels have become a little lackluster with Magnezones floating around being trolls to Steels.



Cobalion @ Choice Scarf (no homo)
Trait: Justified
EV Spread: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Nature: Jolly (Santa Clause)
Moveset:
-Close Combat
-Volt Switch
-Iron Head (Jirachi)
-Stone Edge
Explanation: The head of my dark-fighting-psychic core. He is a standard scarf revenge killer. It is also a nice scout. You guys will probably say terrakion is better but does terrakion get a scouting move? No. CC for stab obviously you guys are smart enough. Iron Head can be game changing but it can be changed and stone edge for coverage.

Cobalion was kept in mind from the beginning Justified is a lulzy ability, laughing at CrunchTars thinking they're cool. A great revenge killer with great coverage in Close Combat and Stone Edge.


Weavile (M) Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EV Spread: 80 HP/252Atk/176 Spe
Nature: Jolly
Moveset:
-Ice Punch
-Ice Shard
-Low Sweep
-Night Slash
Explanation: Stab Ice Punch, 115 base speed oh god yes. Weavile means YOU DIE NOW LATI TWINS AND DRAGONITE. Weavile is revenge kill extroardinaire and dragin buster champ. Pressure kinda sucks but so does pickpocket. Ice Punch for STAB, Night Slash for crit hax. Ice Shard for those DDancing AHoles and low sweep was suggested and it was beastly in tests.

Weavile has a great STAB combo and beastly stats 100+ Speed and Attack with life orb and Jolly makes him ridiculously powerful. He likes to kill Tyranitars and Excadrill which tips my leverage against Sand Teams.



Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers (Thai Food)
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb?
EV Spread: 248 HP/216 Def/48 Spe
Moveset:
-Recover
-Scald
-Will-O-Wisp
-Taunt
Explanation: Suggested by sirndpt. Its a Taunt wallbreaker as well as a wall. Moveset is simple, Taunt trolls walls. Recover is for, well ... recovery. Scald so I'm not complete Taunt bait (sorry Gliscor ;)) Will-O-Wisp loves Steels that land on Toxic Spikes and say "lolno noob." EVs are wall standard.

Jellicent was suggested by sirndpt and it is a monster on this team. With Water Absorb it tips the leverage on rain teams. It replaced Gardevoir as a wall on this team.


Scizor (M) @ Leftovers (Steak)
Trait: Technician duh
EV Spread: 252 HP/40 Atk/218 SpD
Nature: Adamant
Moveset:
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch (AK47)
-Bug Bite
-Brick Break
Explanation: Set up sweep possible revenge kill. We've all seen scizor folks an explanation is kinda pointless.



I user to have Wobbufett and Qwilfish but they sucked.

Evs are kinda random but i haven't had the time to do calcs.

Individual threats. Since I'm to lazy to copy/paste the threat list.
Sun [colour=orange]Teams: They really wreck when Dugtrio kills Heatran but with my hazards Dugtrio is hurt and sash variants lose their thunder.

Scizor/Bronzong: Once my Scizor and Heatran are gone they hurt so they must be dealt with immediately.

TTar leads: They chomp on my Heatran and Cloyster but leading with Cobalion helps.

Haxorus (Scarf): He wrecks me simple.

Rock Polish Terrakion: I've never seen one before but it wrecks my team apparently.

Nasty Plot Thunderus: Hits half my team for super-effective damage.[/COLOR]
 
your weavile sucks.

change the moves to

ice shard
night slash
pursuit
low kick


also, pursit sucks on swords dance scizor.
 
IDK if Heatran is the best thing to lead with nowadays, due to the prominence of CB Dragonite, Politoed and Tyranitar, among other things Heatran loses to.

Weavile should be Jolly.

Try a Reuniclus over Gardevoir, it just outclasses it in everything.

Your whole team loses to Rock Polish Terrakion, as well.
 
@Trollmonchan Kk I'll change it also any suggested counters for Rock Polish Terrakion?

@Bluemon Okay for the Pursuit changing it to Bug Bite. I'll test your Weavile too.
 
Fighting rapes you completely. Pursuit Gardevoir and something like Conkeldurr will destroy you. You definitely hould give Reuniclus a go, or at least keep Will-o-Wisp on Gardevoir to cripple physical Fighters.
 
Lol I didn't realize the yellow but I'm used to posting on a black background. Jellicent actually sounds good I'll use it over Gardevoir. Alright EV changes sound good also Cloyster can learn Rapid Spin. Balloon is kinda meh but I'll consider. Roar is on but what should it replace?
 
hey, Use Life orb on your weavile, And have a choice banded Scizor

name: Choice Band
move 1: U-turn
move 2: Bullet Punch
move 3: Superpower
move 4: Pursuit / Quick Attack
item: Choice Band
nature: Adamant
ability: Technician
evs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
 
@Majestic: I like the EV spread for scizor I might change it to that. Scizor is a set up sweeper so banding it would be redundant. Life Orb on Weavile doesn't seem promising.
@sirndpt: Alright replacing HP Ice right now.
 
Choice Banded Weavile is setup fodder, and doesn't do much other tha Pursuit successfully, whereas a Life Orb Weavile would have some versatility to work with that speed of his, and not become set up fodder for, say, Suicune.

Scizor, meanwhile, is obviously not a dedicated set-up sweeper. In fact, his standard set is the Choice Band set listed two posts above. What makes you think Scizor is a set up sweepr? The Choice Band set lets you gain power immediately, and Scizor is too slow and prone to dying due to the likes of Heatran for him to set up and sweep effectively.

For example, with Choice Band, you could predict a Heatran switch and KO with Superpower. On the Swords Dance set, you would fail to KO.
 
You make Life Orb so ... cool, potentially cooler than the cool side of the pillow. I'll get around to changing it. I've seen Choice Band Scizor 9001 times (I've actually counted 9001 Scizors. And yes that is true, no not really.) I just wanted to use something different.
 
dregstr said:
Weavile means YOU DIE NOW LATI TWINS AND DRAGONITE. .
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Or they switch out...switch out Night Slash or Ice Punch for Pursuit and Low Sweep for Low Kick. Also, it seems like you're trying to have a Bulky set-up Scizor, so change the EVs to 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SpD, and run Roost or Brick Break over Superpower, since superpower kinda just contradicts with SD, but it does help with Skarm on the switch-in, but you have 4 teamates to help that.
 
First of all, please change the font color of your Threat List. Yellow text does not show up well against a white background.

On that note, as long as I'm on the subject of the Threat List, I'd advise you to add Thundurus to the list: a Nasty Plot variant can hit your entire team for super effective damage except for Scizor, whose moves he resists anyway. You might want to consider adding a Quagsire or Gastrodon to your roster.

Also, most of your team is Fighting weak. If you need entry hazard support, you've got a few nonSteel-type options, many of which resist Fighting:

-Tentacruel
-Roserade
-Deoxys-S
-Froslass

Hope that helps. ;)
 
As mentioned above, I highly recommend you switch out Cloyster for a Tentacruel. He does a much better job of covering your teams weaknesses, soaking up T-Spikes just by switching into the field, and can lay down hazards like a champ. He also has the added benefit of Rain Dish, which in todays metagame is going to be useful about 30% of the time, at least. That being said, a set of:

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 252HP/ 252Def/ 4SpD
Bold (+Def, -Atk)
-Toxic Spikes
-Rapid Spin
-Scald
-Knock Off

Tentacruel can get off hazards, spin and Knock Off leftovers from walls and Eviolites from pokemon like Porygon2, Dusclops, and most importanly Chansey. Scald is for epic burnz. GLB.
 
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