Alright, people might think that because I don't post a lot, I have no understanding of the metagame. However, the exact opposite is true. I'm just too busy battling to make posts :naughty:
Just saying this, because in my previous RMT thread, I got treated as if I was some kind of beginner, which was not only annoying, but it also made the progress of my RMT go incredibly slow. You don't have to explain all the terms or movesets (unless they're very specific), I have enough brains to figure those out on my own if they're standard =P
OK, I just had to get that off my heart, even though it might have sounded a bit rude. But I have a pretty awesome team here, and after a few modifications, it's doing really well now. So I'd like to hear your opinion!
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Alright, now get ready for the in-depth analysis of the team!
Changes in Blue
- JIRACHI
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Serene Grace
HP 252 | ATK - | DEF 60 | SATK - | SDEF 160 | SPEED 38
- Iron Head
- Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock
- Wish
Strategy:
I used to have a ScarfRachi with Trick and Stealth Rock as a lead, but since I already have another Tricker on this team, I decided to go a different route. And I was amazed by how well this lead works, since most people expect a lead Jirachi to use Trick, so they go to a Choice Scarf Pokémon most of the time. However, when they see that their ScarfRotom gets paralyzed, they're not that happy anymore, allowing me to either switch out predicting a Trick, or set up some Stealth Rocks. And when I predict my opponent not to switch, it can still set up the rocks right away and cripple later if needed.
One of the main reasons I use this over the standard ScarfRachi is it's bulk. This team finds itself in trouble when a Salamence or Latias sets up. This Jirachi can cripple all of them, making way for my other Pokémons to take them out. And most of the time, Jirachi beats them 1 on 1, due to ParaFlinch hax.
The 38 speed EV's seem weird since this set has Thunder Wave, but it's a godsent to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar. This makes Jirachi less vulnerable to being Revenge Killed by the likes of TTar and other Pokémons that have enough speed to outspeed Jolly TTar (since this hits 245 Speed, which is 2 points above Jolly TTar).
- Leviathan
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Intimidate
HP 156 | ATK 74 | DEF 92 | SATK - | SDEF - | SPEED 188
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance
Strategy:
It's truly amazing how many roles this Gyarados fills for me. It's my Scizor-counter, as well as Wall-crippler (Taunt). It can also sweep very easily after 1 or 2 DD's, losing only if Stone Edge misses a Zapdos... (real scenario!)
It's also a rather solid check against Heatrans, especially since Intimidate will lower the damage from Explosion.
Again, I made it hit 245 Speed, since most BulkyGyara's run 244 and below. This way, I'm able to get off a Stone Edge or two before I die, usually killing the opposing Gyarados first (if it's a BulkyGyara). This may seem rather situational, but it's also helpful when a Jolly TTar gets in and tries to Stone Edge me down, expecting me to run the standard Speed EV's.
But it doesn't end there, with these Speed EV's, I can come in on a DD TTar (I must obviously be sure, so that I won't eat a CB Stone Edge) and can DD up against his +1 -1 Stone Edge and then outspeed & kill it with Waterfall.
This Gyarados also beats any variants of Suicune not running Hidden Power Electric.
- A.DaRapist
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Natural Cure
HP 86 | ATK - | DEF 248 | SATK - | SDEF 176 | SPEED -
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Toxic
- Softboiled
Strategy:
My NEW Special Wall! This Blissey is my answer to any Stall Team, removing that from my top threat list!
The only thing that's bothering me, is the fact that there is absolutely no Ice-move on this team. So I wanted to have Ice Beam on this Blissey, but I noticed that Raikou likes to run over all my other Pokémons. So I NEED to have Seismic Toss in order to stop Raikou. So I thought about replacing Aromatherapy, but then I realized that would make me vulnerable to Stall again... And Toxic can't go either, because that is how I outstall Stall Teams.
And ClericBliss v. ClericBliss is just epic lol. But because I pack offense on this team, I can switch to Scizor on a predicted Softboiled, Toxic, Aromatherapy or even Ice Beam (and Seismic Toss, to an extent) and then Pursuit to severly hurt said Blissey. Or even kill it if it's low enough on HP. So that's why Stall Teams are no longer a threat to me.
However, I recently lost with this team for the first time, because I got a Specs Tricked to my Blissey and my opponent only had Flygon, Latias and Zapdos left (his other 3 teammates resisted Ice, so don't go saying that team sucked), so if I had Ice Beam, I would've been able to beat them all... Which is why I ask if anyone can come up with a Blissey that beats Stall Teams, Raikou (and any SubCM'er really) and has Ice Beam (I don't think it's possible, but maybe I'm overlooking something here...)!
- Reignbeau
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Levitate
HP 252 | ATK - | DEF 230 | SATK - | SDEF - | SPEED 28
- Dragon Pulse
- Reflect
- Calm Mind
- Recover
Strategy:
In my opinion, people have been EV spreading Latias the wrong way ever since the beginning. It has an amazing speed, indeed. However, if you have Paralysis support (most teams do, wether it is T-wave or Body Slam etc.), that becomes almost nothing of importance. So when you switch the focus on Defense, you will find that Latias can function as an incredible Physical Wall with Reflect. It's typing is defenitly one of the best I've ever seen, sporting very useful resistances in Electric, Fire, Fighting & Ground. It also has access to instant recovery with Recover, something any self-respecting wall should have.
Also, when using Recover in tandem with Reflect & Calm Mind, you're getting something that would be considered "Uber" and "broken" in most player's eyes.
Not to mention it has a STAB move which is only resisted by one type.
The speed EV's hit a Speed stat of 263, enough to outspeed any form of Breloom, Metagross and even Skarmory (but who uses Sweeping Skarm nowadays anyway?!).
So all in all, Latias is my Physical Wall and the "weird" EV spread makes it be able to beat all variants of Tyranitar, barring DD TTar and CBTTar (and then only if I get in on a Crunch). CBWeavile stuck on Ice Shard won't like this Latias either.
- Panzerfist
Hold Item: Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
HP 246 | ATK 252 | DEF - | SATK - | SDEF - | SPEED 12
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit
- U-Turn
Strategy:
Choice Band Scizor is amazing! Bullet Punch has quite the power behind it right off the bat now, which is insane for something that nullifies Speed.
With this movepool, my opponent can't know for sure what I'm going to do. Will I Bullet Punch, trying to pick off that weakned Pokémon? Or will I U-Turn to go to a counter for his switch-in? Or will I pursuit, taking his Pokémon out regardless on a switch? Or do I Superpower, predicting that Magnezone or Heatran coming in? So this Scizor is all about mind gaming. And boy, am I glad I'm good at mind gaming!
Now that I use CBScizor, I finally have a use for it again! CBScizor adds an incredible amount of synergy to the team and is one of the best Revenge Killers I've seen. But it's also a very decent Cleaner with Bullet Punch.
All in all, Scizor rocks!
(Didn't Rock beat Scissors though? ... j/k, I know my puns are bad xD)
2nd Edit: I changed it's EV spread a bit, as I noticed that maxing it's HP leads to a very unfortunate Stealth Rock number. So then I hit up Smogon and saw the standard Scizor has 8 Speed (for the same reason I'm not maxing my HP, most likely). So me being sneaky thought: "Hey, If I put 4 more EVs in it, I can also outspeed the standard CBScizor!" And this has actually proven helpful because I was able to Superpower a weakened Scizor to death before he was able to Superpower me!
Unfortunatly, this puts me at a disadvantage against Full HP Scizor, but thanks to the fact that I have 2 pretty solid Scizor counters (Gyarados and Rotom-C with HP Fire), the chances of this Scizor facing a full HP Scizor are slim to zero.
- Blitzkrieg
Hold Item: Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
HP 6 | ATK - | DEF - | SATK 252 | SDEF - | SPEED 252
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leaf Storm
- Trick
Strategy:
This used to be Rotom-H, but I noticed something very interesting. A Hidden Power [Fire] can still OHKO a Scizor, where a Hidden Power [Grass] can not OHKO Swampert. Leaf Storm can. So instead of using Overheat + HP Grass, I decided to use HP Fire + Leaf Storm.
The rest is all pretty standard though, maximum speed to still outspeed Scarfed JollyHera after losing one IV due to HP Fire.
It is also my only Trick-receiver on this team, which has proven to hurt sometimes, seeing as how the metagame is pretty based on Tricking. But it's nothing too big.
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Just saying this, because in my previous RMT thread, I got treated as if I was some kind of beginner, which was not only annoying, but it also made the progress of my RMT go incredibly slow. You don't have to explain all the terms or movesets (unless they're very specific), I have enough brains to figure those out on my own if they're standard =P
OK, I just had to get that off my heart, even though it might have sounded a bit rude. But I have a pretty awesome team here, and after a few modifications, it's doing really well now. So I'd like to hear your opinion!
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A quick look:
NEW Weakness & Resistance chart NEW
Biggest threats:
After the addition of Blissey, even Stall Teams don't touch me anymore.
So that cleans my "Top threat" list once again!
---Biggest threats:
After the addition of Blissey, even Stall Teams don't touch me anymore.
So that cleans my "Top threat" list once again!
Alright, now get ready for the in-depth analysis of the team!
Changes in Blue
- JIRACHIHold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Serene Grace
HP 252 | ATK - | DEF 60 | SATK - | SDEF 160 | SPEED 38
- Iron Head
- Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock
- Wish
Strategy:
I used to have a ScarfRachi with Trick and Stealth Rock as a lead, but since I already have another Tricker on this team, I decided to go a different route. And I was amazed by how well this lead works, since most people expect a lead Jirachi to use Trick, so they go to a Choice Scarf Pokémon most of the time. However, when they see that their ScarfRotom gets paralyzed, they're not that happy anymore, allowing me to either switch out predicting a Trick, or set up some Stealth Rocks. And when I predict my opponent not to switch, it can still set up the rocks right away and cripple later if needed.
One of the main reasons I use this over the standard ScarfRachi is it's bulk. This team finds itself in trouble when a Salamence or Latias sets up. This Jirachi can cripple all of them, making way for my other Pokémons to take them out. And most of the time, Jirachi beats them 1 on 1, due to ParaFlinch hax.
The 38 speed EV's seem weird since this set has Thunder Wave, but it's a godsent to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar. This makes Jirachi less vulnerable to being Revenge Killed by the likes of TTar and other Pokémons that have enough speed to outspeed Jolly TTar (since this hits 245 Speed, which is 2 points above Jolly TTar).
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Intimidate
HP 156 | ATK 74 | DEF 92 | SATK - | SDEF - | SPEED 188
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance
Strategy:
It's truly amazing how many roles this Gyarados fills for me. It's my Scizor-counter, as well as Wall-crippler (Taunt). It can also sweep very easily after 1 or 2 DD's, losing only if Stone Edge misses a Zapdos... (real scenario!)
It's also a rather solid check against Heatrans, especially since Intimidate will lower the damage from Explosion.
Again, I made it hit 245 Speed, since most BulkyGyara's run 244 and below. This way, I'm able to get off a Stone Edge or two before I die, usually killing the opposing Gyarados first (if it's a BulkyGyara). This may seem rather situational, but it's also helpful when a Jolly TTar gets in and tries to Stone Edge me down, expecting me to run the standard Speed EV's.
But it doesn't end there, with these Speed EV's, I can come in on a DD TTar (I must obviously be sure, so that I won't eat a CB Stone Edge) and can DD up against his +1 -1 Stone Edge and then outspeed & kill it with Waterfall.
This Gyarados also beats any variants of Suicune not running Hidden Power Electric.
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Natural Cure
HP 86 | ATK - | DEF 248 | SATK - | SDEF 176 | SPEED -
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Toxic
- Softboiled
Strategy:
My NEW Special Wall! This Blissey is my answer to any Stall Team, removing that from my top threat list!
The only thing that's bothering me, is the fact that there is absolutely no Ice-move on this team. So I wanted to have Ice Beam on this Blissey, but I noticed that Raikou likes to run over all my other Pokémons. So I NEED to have Seismic Toss in order to stop Raikou. So I thought about replacing Aromatherapy, but then I realized that would make me vulnerable to Stall again... And Toxic can't go either, because that is how I outstall Stall Teams.
And ClericBliss v. ClericBliss is just epic lol. But because I pack offense on this team, I can switch to Scizor on a predicted Softboiled, Toxic, Aromatherapy or even Ice Beam (and Seismic Toss, to an extent) and then Pursuit to severly hurt said Blissey. Or even kill it if it's low enough on HP. So that's why Stall Teams are no longer a threat to me.
However, I recently lost with this team for the first time, because I got a Specs Tricked to my Blissey and my opponent only had Flygon, Latias and Zapdos left (his other 3 teammates resisted Ice, so don't go saying that team sucked), so if I had Ice Beam, I would've been able to beat them all... Which is why I ask if anyone can come up with a Blissey that beats Stall Teams, Raikou (and any SubCM'er really) and has Ice Beam (I don't think it's possible, but maybe I'm overlooking something here...)!
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Levitate
HP 252 | ATK - | DEF 230 | SATK - | SDEF - | SPEED 28
- Dragon Pulse
- Reflect
- Calm Mind
- Recover
Strategy:
In my opinion, people have been EV spreading Latias the wrong way ever since the beginning. It has an amazing speed, indeed. However, if you have Paralysis support (most teams do, wether it is T-wave or Body Slam etc.), that becomes almost nothing of importance. So when you switch the focus on Defense, you will find that Latias can function as an incredible Physical Wall with Reflect. It's typing is defenitly one of the best I've ever seen, sporting very useful resistances in Electric, Fire, Fighting & Ground. It also has access to instant recovery with Recover, something any self-respecting wall should have.
Also, when using Recover in tandem with Reflect & Calm Mind, you're getting something that would be considered "Uber" and "broken" in most player's eyes.
Not to mention it has a STAB move which is only resisted by one type.
The speed EV's hit a Speed stat of 263, enough to outspeed any form of Breloom, Metagross and even Skarmory (but who uses Sweeping Skarm nowadays anyway?!).
So all in all, Latias is my Physical Wall and the "weird" EV spread makes it be able to beat all variants of Tyranitar, barring DD TTar and CBTTar (and then only if I get in on a Crunch). CBWeavile stuck on Ice Shard won't like this Latias either.
Hold Item: Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
HP 246 | ATK 252 | DEF - | SATK - | SDEF - | SPEED 12
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit
- U-Turn
Strategy:
Choice Band Scizor is amazing! Bullet Punch has quite the power behind it right off the bat now, which is insane for something that nullifies Speed.
With this movepool, my opponent can't know for sure what I'm going to do. Will I Bullet Punch, trying to pick off that weakned Pokémon? Or will I U-Turn to go to a counter for his switch-in? Or will I pursuit, taking his Pokémon out regardless on a switch? Or do I Superpower, predicting that Magnezone or Heatran coming in? So this Scizor is all about mind gaming. And boy, am I glad I'm good at mind gaming!
Now that I use CBScizor, I finally have a use for it again! CBScizor adds an incredible amount of synergy to the team and is one of the best Revenge Killers I've seen. But it's also a very decent Cleaner with Bullet Punch.
All in all, Scizor rocks!
(Didn't Rock beat Scissors though? ... j/k, I know my puns are bad xD)
2nd Edit: I changed it's EV spread a bit, as I noticed that maxing it's HP leads to a very unfortunate Stealth Rock number. So then I hit up Smogon and saw the standard Scizor has 8 Speed (for the same reason I'm not maxing my HP, most likely). So me being sneaky thought: "Hey, If I put 4 more EVs in it, I can also outspeed the standard CBScizor!" And this has actually proven helpful because I was able to Superpower a weakened Scizor to death before he was able to Superpower me!
Unfortunatly, this puts me at a disadvantage against Full HP Scizor, but thanks to the fact that I have 2 pretty solid Scizor counters (Gyarados and Rotom-C with HP Fire), the chances of this Scizor facing a full HP Scizor are slim to zero.
Hold Item: Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
HP 6 | ATK - | DEF - | SATK 252 | SDEF - | SPEED 252
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leaf Storm
- Trick
Strategy:
This used to be Rotom-H, but I noticed something very interesting. A Hidden Power [Fire] can still OHKO a Scizor, where a Hidden Power [Grass] can not OHKO Swampert. Leaf Storm can. So instead of using Overheat + HP Grass, I decided to use HP Fire + Leaf Storm.
The rest is all pretty standard though, maximum speed to still outspeed Scarfed JollyHera after losing one IV due to HP Fire.
It is also my only Trick-receiver on this team, which has proven to hurt sometimes, seeing as how the metagame is pretty based on Tricking. But it's nothing too big.
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Overall Strategy:
I have always liked bulk, even at the cost of fire power, and I think this team is a perfect example of how that affects my team. 2 Wishers, Paralysis support, set up moves; they all come to one conclusion: "I'm waiting for the right moment to start a sweep, sucking up hits until that time comes."
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Points of note:
Threat List: "From A - Z" ...almost...
Big threats in Red.
Abomasnow: Scizor, Jirachi, Gyarados, Blissey. In other words: enough.
Aerodactyl: Latias. Even after I get Taunted, it still can't hurt Latias enough and I can kill it relativly easy with Dragon Pulse. Jirachi also does a pretty decent job thanks to Iron Head (and Thunder Wave if said Aero lacks Taunt). Rotom outspeeds and OHKO's with Thunderbolt (and don't even mention ScarfAero; they don't exist!).
Azelf: Blissey says Hi. Even Physical-Versions can't hurt Blissey in time. Jirachi can also come in and Thunder Wave them, although I have to be wary of Fire Blast. Scizor can come in (also has to be wary of Fire Blast) and can play the old-epic Bullet Punch/Pursuit mind game. Rotom can outspeed for a revenge kill as well. Unless said Azelf is Scarfed itself, but then it becomes a whole less troublesome for the rest of my team.
Blissey: Blissey says Hi. Only opposing ClericBlisseys have a chance, or it has to switch out, effectifly "countering" said Blissey. Scizor also makes Blissey look nothing but a toy and Rotom can Trick some Scarf on it. Gyarados with Taunt is also very effective. And Jirachi can ParaFlinch. Even Latias can set up against it if it lacks Toxic. No problemo!
Breloom: Latias. Not a single Breloom can stop Latias. Well... Spore... but I have Aromatherapy and I wouldn't be stupid enough to send out Latias before it has Spored anything else.
Celebi: Blissey says Hi. It HAS to switch out to activate Natural Cure, meaning it won't CM up on me. I should've also mentioned Scizor first, as that is my TRUE Celebi counter, but Celebi tends to run HP Fire lately, so it's not all that TRUE anymore... U-Turn and Pursuit are still a bitch to it though, beating any versions not carrying HP Fire. Gyarados with Taunt also does a decent job at keeping CM'ers at bay.
Cresselia: Blissey says Hi. If it has Rest, Latias can come in and set up on it. Or Gyarados can Taunt it. Rotom can also Trick a Scarf on it. ScarfTrickCress hurts, but only for a bit. After it lost it's Scarf, it's not threatening at all anymore. Jirachi can also ParaFlinch as last resort.
Dugtrio: When you look at the amount of Pokémons this thing can hurt, you'll laugh. That's right, this can only hurt Jirachi and Blissey, which can deal such a blow to it, that whatever comes out next WILL take it down. And that's counting CB-Versions. LO-Versions are even easier.
Flygon: A pretty big threat to my team. Only Scizor and Jirachi can really come in on this beast, but Jirachi can't paralyze it and Scizor can't OHKO it. So it usually comes down to just gang-banging said Flygon to death.
Forretress: Rotom, hands down. Immune to Explosion, no damage from Spikes and packing HP Fire himself. It can't be anything else but. I'm sure there's more that can take it, but I don't need anything else besides Rotom.
Gengar: Thanks to Blissey not being able to hurt Gengar, I can't say Blissey =( . But Scizor's Pursuit makes Gengar his bitch. And thusfar, I haven't seen HP Fire Gar, so yeah... Jirachi sucks up all it's attacks and paralyzes in return, making way for an easy kill with ParaFlinch and thanks to Iron Head giving a 2HKO. Rotom can outspeed and revenge kill it as well when needed. I gotta watch out for opposing Scarf-Versions though. But those are more easily handled by Scizor. In the worst case scenario, I can still PP stall Gengar with Blissey though.
Gliscor: A surprisingly big threat to my team, but mainly because I don't have an Ice-move. Latias would be my first bet, thanks to Reflect and Gliscor having a below average Special Defense. I can also go to Blissey for some Toxic and Seismic Tosses. Then, after it has Swords Danced and beaten Blissey, it should be weak enough to die to Leaf Storm from Rotom. Scizor can pick off really weakened versions and Gyarados can try to stop them before they Swords Dance. But Stone Edge hurts a lot.
Gyarados: Rotom, hands down. Latias can beat any version not carrying Ice Fang. Even if it has Taunt, it should fall to Dragon Pulse before it kills me with Stone Edge. Versions wíth Ice Fang are handled by my own Gyarados.
Heatran: Blissey, Gyarados, Latias. No problems here.
Heracross: Gyarados INTIMIDATES it's opponent! Rotom does surprisingly well as well. Scizor can pick off weakened versions.
Hippowdon: All Pokémons barring Jirachi and Scizor really. But even Scizor can bully a weakened Hippo. This dude is no problem to my team at all.
Infernape: Latias handles Mixed-Versions pretty nicely. Physical-Versions even better. Special-Versions are handled by Blissey. Gyarados also beats any Infernape not carrying ThunderPunch.
Jirachi: Depended on it's version. Gyarados can beat any Jirachi not carrying Thunderbolt/ThunderPunch. Tricksters are handled by my own Trickster, Rotom. Physical variants can't get passed Jirachi and Latias. Mixed-Versions are too weak to dent Blissey and usually don't carry Wish, so I can Seismic Toss them. Calm Mind-Versions usually simply don't have the time to set up, as they will be pressed by hard hits from Scizor and Rotom and maybe Jirachi has already paralyzed them. If they do get those Calm Minds in, I have to "wish" THEY don't have Wish, or else I'll have to hope for a PP stall with Blissey.
Jolteon: Blissey says Hi. Nothing else can really sponge it's attacks, but this is why Blissey is part of my team.
Kingdra: Really depended on it's version. Physical versions are beaten by Latias and when they go into Outrage to take down Latias, Scizor makes an easy revenge kill. Or I can go to Jirachi to sponge their attacks and cripple them with Thunder Wave. I can't let it get too many DD's though, but hey, what CAN? Mixed Versions are easily handled by Blissey thanks to her insane HP. Special versions are handled even better by Blissey.
Latias: Blissey says Hi. If it has Refresh, Gyarados shouldn't have too much trouble Taunting it. Jirachi beats the crap out of it, even if it has Hidden Power Fire, thanks to Thunder Wave and Wish. Even if it manages to kill Jirachi, the paralysis will have it crippled enough. Scizor does pretty well too, beating all versions not carrying Hidden Power Fire with either U-Turn or Pursuit. Or even Bullet Punch if said Latias is hurt enough.
Lucario: Rotom. HP Fire is awesome. Gyarados also does wonders with it's Taunt and Intimidate. Latias can also wall any set not carrying Ice Punch or Crunch and provide a 2HKO with +1 Dragon Pulse.
Machamp: Latias. Even Ice Punch won't hurt after I set up that Reflect. Gyarados can take on any version not running ThunderPunch. Jirachi also does pretty well, but it prefers a pre-Reflect.
Magnezone: Blissey says Hi. Latias fairs well against any Zone not carrying Hidden Power Ice as well. I actually even beated Magnezone with ParaFlinch from Jirachi once... so again, ParaFlinch is my last resort.
Mamoswine: Gyarados INTIMIDATES it's opponent! Oh yeah, it also has Waterfall and stuff... Stone Edge is meh, but if it has Stone Edge (and supposedly kill my Gyarados), Latias can come in and set up a Reflect. CB-Versions will be locked and nonCB-Versions won't do enough damage to kill her in time.
Metagross: Latias. This may sound weird, but thanks to Reflect, I can outstall any Metagross and set up 'till infinity on it! (In reality, that's 6 Calm Mind's, but infinity sounds much cooler!) An HP Fire from Rotom does about 50% as well, making for a good revenge kill.
Porygon2: Blissey says Hi. I just gotta watch out it doesn't Trace my Natural Cure... Scizor's Superpower does wonders too. And Rotom hurts as hard as ever, while P2 can't do anything significantly in return. Jirachi can also ParaFlinch it as last resort.
Porygon-Z: Blissey says Hi.
Raikou: Blissey says Hi. Nothing else can really stop Raikou on this team, but that's the main reason I slapped Blissey on this team!
Rhyperior: Latias. Only SwordsDance Rhyperior can try to beat Latias, but if it's SDPerior, Scizor can use it's Superpower very easily.
Rotom (all formes): Blissey says Hi. Trick hurts, but when it's lost it's Choice Scarf, my own Rotom says Hi. Wall-Versions are handled singlehandedly by Blissey all the time.
Skarmory: Gyarados for the Taunt. Rotom. Latias can set up a Reflect for whatever gets Whirlwinded in so the only way it can hurt me is by stalling and shuffling. Which doesn't hurt at all, actually.
Snorlax: Gyarados for the Taunt. If it's a CB version, Intimidate will still hurt and then Latias can pretty much beat it thanks to Reflect. Jirachi can also ParaFlinch it as last resort.
Starmie: Blissey, hands down. Natural Cure sucks, but I can still outstall it if needed.
Swampert: Rotom. But a Swampert can't hurt this team that much anyway. Even Blissey can outstall it.
Salamence: It's hard to counter this beast regardless, but Jirachi fairs pretty well, not being OHKO'd by anything it can throw at me and paralyzing in return. After it's paralyzed, Latias says Hi. Lum Berries fuck this up, but a Lum Berry means my bulky Pokémons like Gyarados handle it better.
Scizor: Gyarados and Rotom are solid counters. Latias can function as a last resort with Reflect, although Scizor must be weakened so it can't Swords Dance up enough in time.
Slowbro: Blissey says Hi. No further explanation needed. This thing isn't a problem to any dude on my team.
Suicune: Blissey says Hi. The turn it Rests up, I can go to anything I want from Tyranitar to Latias, depending on it's moveset (Ice Beam or Hidden Power Electric). Offensive versions are taken down by Rotom.
Togekiss: Blissey says Hi. Jirachi returns the favor of Thunder Wave. Latias can also manhandle (femalehandle?) it, although it doesn't like paralysis. But that's why I have Aromatherapy anyway. Scarfed-Versions are just lol.
Tyranitar: A tough one, as always. Gyarados can come in on anything that isn't Stone Edge. Latias is the one who can come in on anything that isn't Crunch/Dark Pulse and set up a Reflect or Calm Mind up. Rotom can function as a revenge killer thanks to Leaf Storm doing about 50% to the standard Tyranitar. Jirachi can come in on any TTar not carrying Earthquake. So I have no solid TTar counter, but I can handle all it's versions with different Pokémons without any trouble.
Yanmega: Blissey says Hi. Rotom too btw. As does Scizor... And Gyarados... And even Jirachi (thanks to Thunder Wave).
Zapdos: Blissey says Hi. Latias can function as a last resort even if Zapdos has HP Ice.
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How the team was made!
So I started off wanting to use some of my favorite Pokémons, consisting of: Jirachi, Scizor, Zapdos & Latias.
In the very beginning, my team had all these 4 members.
Then...
WILL UPDATE THIS LATER ON, IT'S LATE NOW!
I have always liked bulk, even at the cost of fire power, and I think this team is a perfect example of how that affects my team. 2 Wishers, Paralysis support, set up moves; they all come to one conclusion: "I'm waiting for the right moment to start a sweep, sucking up hits until that time comes."
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Points of note:
- Latias is defenitly a stayer.
- Jirachi is also a stayer, however, it's set can change if needed.
- I need an Ice-move...
Threat List: "From A - Z" ...almost...
Big threats in Red.
Abomasnow: Scizor, Jirachi, Gyarados, Blissey. In other words: enough.
Aerodactyl: Latias. Even after I get Taunted, it still can't hurt Latias enough and I can kill it relativly easy with Dragon Pulse. Jirachi also does a pretty decent job thanks to Iron Head (and Thunder Wave if said Aero lacks Taunt). Rotom outspeeds and OHKO's with Thunderbolt (and don't even mention ScarfAero; they don't exist!).
Azelf: Blissey says Hi. Even Physical-Versions can't hurt Blissey in time. Jirachi can also come in and Thunder Wave them, although I have to be wary of Fire Blast. Scizor can come in (also has to be wary of Fire Blast) and can play the old-epic Bullet Punch/Pursuit mind game. Rotom can outspeed for a revenge kill as well. Unless said Azelf is Scarfed itself, but then it becomes a whole less troublesome for the rest of my team.
Blissey: Blissey says Hi. Only opposing ClericBlisseys have a chance, or it has to switch out, effectifly "countering" said Blissey. Scizor also makes Blissey look nothing but a toy and Rotom can Trick some Scarf on it. Gyarados with Taunt is also very effective. And Jirachi can ParaFlinch. Even Latias can set up against it if it lacks Toxic. No problemo!
Breloom: Latias. Not a single Breloom can stop Latias. Well... Spore... but I have Aromatherapy and I wouldn't be stupid enough to send out Latias before it has Spored anything else.
Celebi: Blissey says Hi. It HAS to switch out to activate Natural Cure, meaning it won't CM up on me. I should've also mentioned Scizor first, as that is my TRUE Celebi counter, but Celebi tends to run HP Fire lately, so it's not all that TRUE anymore... U-Turn and Pursuit are still a bitch to it though, beating any versions not carrying HP Fire. Gyarados with Taunt also does a decent job at keeping CM'ers at bay.
Cresselia: Blissey says Hi. If it has Rest, Latias can come in and set up on it. Or Gyarados can Taunt it. Rotom can also Trick a Scarf on it. ScarfTrickCress hurts, but only for a bit. After it lost it's Scarf, it's not threatening at all anymore. Jirachi can also ParaFlinch as last resort.
Dugtrio: When you look at the amount of Pokémons this thing can hurt, you'll laugh. That's right, this can only hurt Jirachi and Blissey, which can deal such a blow to it, that whatever comes out next WILL take it down. And that's counting CB-Versions. LO-Versions are even easier.
Flygon: A pretty big threat to my team. Only Scizor and Jirachi can really come in on this beast, but Jirachi can't paralyze it and Scizor can't OHKO it. So it usually comes down to just gang-banging said Flygon to death.
Forretress: Rotom, hands down. Immune to Explosion, no damage from Spikes and packing HP Fire himself. It can't be anything else but. I'm sure there's more that can take it, but I don't need anything else besides Rotom.
Gengar: Thanks to Blissey not being able to hurt Gengar, I can't say Blissey =( . But Scizor's Pursuit makes Gengar his bitch. And thusfar, I haven't seen HP Fire Gar, so yeah... Jirachi sucks up all it's attacks and paralyzes in return, making way for an easy kill with ParaFlinch and thanks to Iron Head giving a 2HKO. Rotom can outspeed and revenge kill it as well when needed. I gotta watch out for opposing Scarf-Versions though. But those are more easily handled by Scizor. In the worst case scenario, I can still PP stall Gengar with Blissey though.
Gliscor: A surprisingly big threat to my team, but mainly because I don't have an Ice-move. Latias would be my first bet, thanks to Reflect and Gliscor having a below average Special Defense. I can also go to Blissey for some Toxic and Seismic Tosses. Then, after it has Swords Danced and beaten Blissey, it should be weak enough to die to Leaf Storm from Rotom. Scizor can pick off really weakened versions and Gyarados can try to stop them before they Swords Dance. But Stone Edge hurts a lot.
Gyarados: Rotom, hands down. Latias can beat any version not carrying Ice Fang. Even if it has Taunt, it should fall to Dragon Pulse before it kills me with Stone Edge. Versions wíth Ice Fang are handled by my own Gyarados.
Heatran: Blissey, Gyarados, Latias. No problems here.
Heracross: Gyarados INTIMIDATES it's opponent! Rotom does surprisingly well as well. Scizor can pick off weakened versions.
Hippowdon: All Pokémons barring Jirachi and Scizor really. But even Scizor can bully a weakened Hippo. This dude is no problem to my team at all.
Infernape: Latias handles Mixed-Versions pretty nicely. Physical-Versions even better. Special-Versions are handled by Blissey. Gyarados also beats any Infernape not carrying ThunderPunch.
Jirachi: Depended on it's version. Gyarados can beat any Jirachi not carrying Thunderbolt/ThunderPunch. Tricksters are handled by my own Trickster, Rotom. Physical variants can't get passed Jirachi and Latias. Mixed-Versions are too weak to dent Blissey and usually don't carry Wish, so I can Seismic Toss them. Calm Mind-Versions usually simply don't have the time to set up, as they will be pressed by hard hits from Scizor and Rotom and maybe Jirachi has already paralyzed them. If they do get those Calm Minds in, I have to "wish" THEY don't have Wish, or else I'll have to hope for a PP stall with Blissey.
Jolteon: Blissey says Hi. Nothing else can really sponge it's attacks, but this is why Blissey is part of my team.
Kingdra: Really depended on it's version. Physical versions are beaten by Latias and when they go into Outrage to take down Latias, Scizor makes an easy revenge kill. Or I can go to Jirachi to sponge their attacks and cripple them with Thunder Wave. I can't let it get too many DD's though, but hey, what CAN? Mixed Versions are easily handled by Blissey thanks to her insane HP. Special versions are handled even better by Blissey.
Latias: Blissey says Hi. If it has Refresh, Gyarados shouldn't have too much trouble Taunting it. Jirachi beats the crap out of it, even if it has Hidden Power Fire, thanks to Thunder Wave and Wish. Even if it manages to kill Jirachi, the paralysis will have it crippled enough. Scizor does pretty well too, beating all versions not carrying Hidden Power Fire with either U-Turn or Pursuit. Or even Bullet Punch if said Latias is hurt enough.
Lucario: Rotom. HP Fire is awesome. Gyarados also does wonders with it's Taunt and Intimidate. Latias can also wall any set not carrying Ice Punch or Crunch and provide a 2HKO with +1 Dragon Pulse.
Machamp: Latias. Even Ice Punch won't hurt after I set up that Reflect. Gyarados can take on any version not running ThunderPunch. Jirachi also does pretty well, but it prefers a pre-Reflect.
Magnezone: Blissey says Hi. Latias fairs well against any Zone not carrying Hidden Power Ice as well. I actually even beated Magnezone with ParaFlinch from Jirachi once... so again, ParaFlinch is my last resort.
Mamoswine: Gyarados INTIMIDATES it's opponent! Oh yeah, it also has Waterfall and stuff... Stone Edge is meh, but if it has Stone Edge (and supposedly kill my Gyarados), Latias can come in and set up a Reflect. CB-Versions will be locked and nonCB-Versions won't do enough damage to kill her in time.
Metagross: Latias. This may sound weird, but thanks to Reflect, I can outstall any Metagross and set up 'till infinity on it! (In reality, that's 6 Calm Mind's, but infinity sounds much cooler!) An HP Fire from Rotom does about 50% as well, making for a good revenge kill.
Porygon2: Blissey says Hi. I just gotta watch out it doesn't Trace my Natural Cure... Scizor's Superpower does wonders too. And Rotom hurts as hard as ever, while P2 can't do anything significantly in return. Jirachi can also ParaFlinch it as last resort.
Porygon-Z: Blissey says Hi.
Raikou: Blissey says Hi. Nothing else can really stop Raikou on this team, but that's the main reason I slapped Blissey on this team!
Rhyperior: Latias. Only SwordsDance Rhyperior can try to beat Latias, but if it's SDPerior, Scizor can use it's Superpower very easily.
Rotom (all formes): Blissey says Hi. Trick hurts, but when it's lost it's Choice Scarf, my own Rotom says Hi. Wall-Versions are handled singlehandedly by Blissey all the time.
Skarmory: Gyarados for the Taunt. Rotom. Latias can set up a Reflect for whatever gets Whirlwinded in so the only way it can hurt me is by stalling and shuffling. Which doesn't hurt at all, actually.
Snorlax: Gyarados for the Taunt. If it's a CB version, Intimidate will still hurt and then Latias can pretty much beat it thanks to Reflect. Jirachi can also ParaFlinch it as last resort.
Starmie: Blissey, hands down. Natural Cure sucks, but I can still outstall it if needed.
Swampert: Rotom. But a Swampert can't hurt this team that much anyway. Even Blissey can outstall it.
Salamence: It's hard to counter this beast regardless, but Jirachi fairs pretty well, not being OHKO'd by anything it can throw at me and paralyzing in return. After it's paralyzed, Latias says Hi. Lum Berries fuck this up, but a Lum Berry means my bulky Pokémons like Gyarados handle it better.
Scizor: Gyarados and Rotom are solid counters. Latias can function as a last resort with Reflect, although Scizor must be weakened so it can't Swords Dance up enough in time.
Slowbro: Blissey says Hi. No further explanation needed. This thing isn't a problem to any dude on my team.
Suicune: Blissey says Hi. The turn it Rests up, I can go to anything I want from Tyranitar to Latias, depending on it's moveset (Ice Beam or Hidden Power Electric). Offensive versions are taken down by Rotom.
Togekiss: Blissey says Hi. Jirachi returns the favor of Thunder Wave. Latias can also manhandle (femalehandle?) it, although it doesn't like paralysis. But that's why I have Aromatherapy anyway. Scarfed-Versions are just lol.
Tyranitar: A tough one, as always. Gyarados can come in on anything that isn't Stone Edge. Latias is the one who can come in on anything that isn't Crunch/Dark Pulse and set up a Reflect or Calm Mind up. Rotom can function as a revenge killer thanks to Leaf Storm doing about 50% to the standard Tyranitar. Jirachi can come in on any TTar not carrying Earthquake. So I have no solid TTar counter, but I can handle all it's versions with different Pokémons without any trouble.
Yanmega: Blissey says Hi. Rotom too btw. As does Scizor... And Gyarados... And even Jirachi (thanks to Thunder Wave).
Zapdos: Blissey says Hi. Latias can function as a last resort even if Zapdos has HP Ice.
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How the team was made!
So I started off wanting to use some of my favorite Pokémons, consisting of: Jirachi, Scizor, Zapdos & Latias.
In the very beginning, my team had all these 4 members.
Then...
WILL UPDATE THIS LATER ON, IT'S LATE NOW!
