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iamLEGION

This is my first attempt at actually making a serious team (and also my first post on Smogon). I have now put in pictures of my team.

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Starmie @ Life Orb
Timid, 252SpA/252 Spe/4 HP
-Hydro Pump
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Recover
Starmie makes a great anti-lead as it can outspeed and KO all of the most common ones bar Swampert, which it can't do too much to. Aerodactyl also outspeeds it, but any one of Starmie's moves can take it out. Hydro Pump is chosen for the 2HKO on Metagross, and the accuracy doesn't really bother me. Thunderbolt hits waters other than Swampert, and Ice Beam hits dragons and Breloom/Roserade/Celebi. Recover allows me to shake off LO recoil and stall out weak attackers.

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Tyranitar @ Choice Scarf
Jolly, 252Atk/252Spe/4HP
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Earthquake
ScarfTar has been added to deal with a significant Gengar weakness. It also provides a very capable revenge killer against nonscarfed, nonboosted opponents. EdgeQuake for coverage and Crunch for an accurate STAB, plus Pursuit to take down Starmie, Gengar, Celebi, and others. The rest of this moveset is analyzed on the Smogon page for Tyranitar and can really help setting up Metagross.
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Heatran @ Leftovers
Timid, 4HP/252Spe/252SpA
-Substitute
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-HP Electric
Heatran is a great Scizor counter and can wreak havoc on an unprepared team if he gets a sub up. This is the first team I've used Heatran on, and he works very well. Fire + Ground gives him very good coverage, and HP Electric allows me to get a good hit on Gyarados, who would otherwise wall this set. If Gyarados is weakened enough, Heatran can even KO him.
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Celebi @ Leftovers
Timid, 252HP/36Spe/220Def
-Thunder Wave
-HP Fire
-Grass Knot
-Recover
Standard defensive Celebi added per recommendation. A lot of sweepers that would be threatening to my team really hate Thunder Wave, so I decided to use it over Leech Seed, Reflect, or Stealth Rock. HP Fire and Grass Knot allow Celebi to retain a bit of offense, and Recover is self-explanatory on a defensive set.

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Gyarados @ Leftovers
Jolly, 252Atk/88HP/168Spe
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Taunt
-Dragon Dance
DD Gyarados is insanely powerful. It can come in and force a switch, DD up, and sweep. Leftovers have been added to increase Gyarados's survivability. Waterfall for STAB, Earthquake for coverage. Taunt has been added (per dws93rd' recommendation) to prevent Gyarados from getting phazed. Also, Taunting something like Skarmory or Swampert that can't hurt Gyarados much can allow him to get another DD or two in.

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Metagross @ Lum Berry
Adamant, 252Atk/196Spe/60HP
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
Agiligross. It's one of the best late-game sweepers out there and can outrun most of the metagame with +2 Speed. The given EVs allow it to outrun Scarfed Flygon and Jirachi, which can give it huge problems. Meteor Mash for power, Earthquake for coverage, and Explosion to take something down with me. Gyarados and Skarmory wall this set, but hopefully they've been killed by something earlier. Anyway, Explosion after an Attack boost from Meteor Mash can do a ton of damage to Skarmory, and it OHKOs Gyarados.


How I deal with common Pokemon:

Machamp- It doesn't like getting hit with Meteor Mash, and the Lum Berry on Metagross eliminates DynamicPunch's confusion side effect. If Metagross is dead, Celebi can paralyze No Guard variants and Gyarados can Intimidate it, but Metagross is usually not revealed until late.

Flygon- Scarfed variants are a problem, and my only surefire way of removing a ScarfGon is to hit it with Explosion because of its Ground typing and immunity to Thunder Wave. Gyarados can come in on Earthquake and set up, but is unable to OHKO once it comes back in. NonScarfed Flygon are killed by Starmie's Ice Beam.

Gengar: Tyranitar outspeeds and KOs with either Crunch or Pursuit. If Tyranitar is unavailable, Metagross can hit it with a Meteor Mash or Gyarados can Waterfall if it lacks Thunderbolt.

Heatran: Starmie, Gyarados, or Tyranitar can hit it hard, as can Metagross if it has gotten off an Agility.

Scizor: Celebi can hit it with HP Fire or Heatran can hit it with Fire Blast, not really a problem.

Lucario: Metagross , Gyarados, and Tyranitar can hit it with Earthquake, although Tyranitar must watch out for CCs and Aura Spheres. Celebi can hit it with Hidden Power and Heatran can Fire Blast/ Earth Power in a pinch or from behind a sub.

Tyranitar: Most of my team can hit Tyranitar for SE damage some way or another (EQ, Grass Knot, Hydro Pump, Earth Power, Meteor Mash); however, most of them must watch for a retaliation from Ttar.

Gyarados: Tyranitar can Stone Edge or Starmie can Thunderbolt, but Tyranitar must watch out for Earthquake and Waterfall.
My own Gyarados can Taunt to prevent it getting off a Dragon Dance, but does very little damage back. If Heatran is already out and behind a sub, I can use HP Electric to hurt Gyarados badly.

Jirachi: Depending on the set, different counters can be used. If it's a CM set, Metagross and Tyranitar are the best choices. Gyarados can also be used if it has gotten off a Dance. Scarf sets or paraflinch abuser sets can be countered by the previous choices as well as Heatran and Celebi. Celebi is the best choice for countering a paraflinch set due to Natural Cure (and I guess Starmie could work as well), but Heatran has a 4x resistance to Iron Head, making it an ideal counter to Jirachi locked into Iron Head.

Starmie: Scarfed Starmies are problematic, but Tyranitar can trap them and KO with Pursuit/Crunch or my own Starmie can come in on a Surf/Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. If it's not Scarfed, Tyranitar can still kill it, or Celebi can try to outstall if it lacks Ice Beam.

Metagross: Heatran can Fire Blast it, but needs to watch out for Earthquake. My physical attackers can Earthquake, but Metagross and Tyranitar are weak to common moves, so Gyarados is the best counter if it lacks Thunderpunch. Celebi can hit it with HP Fire, but it's a weak hit on a strong Pokemon and should be used only as a last resort. Also, Hydro Pump from Starmie 2HKOs lead Metagross.

Infernape: Gyarados is the most reliable counter, but anything except for Celebi works, really. Tyranitar and Heatran just need to watch out for CCs, Mach Punch, and Vacuum Wave. Starmie could get hit by a lucky U-Turn and Metagross doesn't like Fire attacks, but Infernape loses to this team.

Blissey: Metagross or Gyarados, take your pick. Metagross can absorb status, but hates paralysis if Meteor Mash misses or something. Gyarados also hates status, but can set up and sweep a few Pokemon before dying to Toxic if he must.

Azelf: Starmie does quite well against lead Azelf and doesn't mind getting Tricked. Tyranitar can also take a Trick and OHKO with Pursuit.

Swampert: Doesn't really like Starmie's Hydro Pumps, but he can take a few. Celebi can hit it with Grass Knot or Heatran can kill it with HP Grass.

Breloom: Take the Spore, and then Ice Beam/Fire Blast/HP Fire. I hate this mushroom-headed @*#@ more than words can possibly describe, and will never, ever use it on a team of mine.

Gliscor: Dies easily enough to an Ice Beam or Waterfall. I rarely see Gliscor anyway.

Vaporeon: Thunderbolt will kill it in 2 hits, as long as there's no Wish/Protect going on. Gyarados can set up on those without HP Electric, and Heatran can sub up while it recovers and hit it with HP Grass. Celebi's Grass Knot has bad BP, but Vaporeon can't do much back to Celebi due to Natural Cure and Recover.

Jolteon: Metagross and Tyranitar can Earthquake and Heatran can Earth Power. Gyarados needs to watch out, though.


EDIT LIST: changed celebi to defensive, gave gyarados leftovers instead of wacan berry, changed flamethrower to thunderbolt on tyranitar. also added pictures.
changed stone edge on gyarados to taunt.
changed metagross's EVs
changed MixTar to ScarfTar
added threat list
 
All the members of the team work pretty well together so I'm just going to suggest moves. First off to insert an image click on the mountain looking thing then add a url it'll tell you where to put it.

Not to be mean or anything but you have some gimmick items and sets. Remove Wacan berry from Gyrados becuase without life orb you lose important ko's and without leftovers for bulky Gyrados you won't have any form of recovery, besides most electric moves will still hurt if not ko you becuase of Gyrados's weak defences.
You don't have any walls and this team is definetly not Hyper Offence. Take out Celebi's gimmicky set and use the standard defensive set because it supports your team alot more and can take hits so you don't have to lose all your sweepers really fast. Mixtar could be replaced by TyraniBOAH becuase of it's overall bulkiness. Also with the set I suggested you can ease up prediction and just sub on the switch but that's just my opinion isn't necessary. Also this thread might get locked because your descriptions may be too short.
 
Very good team, you don't really have a problem with Skarmary but you defantly (sp.) have a problem with Gyarados. I suggest replacing Gyarados with a Rotom-F. Rotom will get a free switch in on CCs aimed at Tyranator and to a lesser degree Heatran. Rotom-F can easily take care of Gyarados and the dragons that might come along. I think this Rotom should have Will-O-Wisp, Thunderbolt and Blizzard. The last moveslot is up to you but Pain Split sounds good.
 
On Gyarados you should definitely run Taunt. Although you may not come into as many circumstances of needed it as before, I cannot tell you how many times my DD Gyara has be phazed because I lacked Taunt. So I would say, replace Stone Edge for Taunt.

On Starmie, you might want Rapid Spin just because Gyarados won't like the residual damage from both SR and Sandstorm. No one will like it, but he will hate it the most since his only form of recovery will get cancelled out by Sandstorm.

Just what I would do. Hope I helped.
 
Thanks for the suggestions. Defensive Celebi seems to work well paired with Heatran and uses Thunder Wave very well to allow Tyranitar and Heatran to beat some of their counters that rely on speed. I would already be using Rotom-F if it got Ice Beam instead of Blizzard. I can deal with 85 accuracy and don't like 80 much, but I just can't use Blizzard without Abomasnow's hail support. Also, anti-lead Starmie is suffering from moveslot syndrome right now. I would love to have Rapid Spin on the set somewhere, but I don't want to sacrifice coverage or healing capabilities.
 
If Skarmory and Gyarados prevent your Metagross sweep, you could always give metagross thunderpunch...
This then opens up the chance for Tyranitar to use flamethrower again if you so wish =)

Finally, love your lead - I use the same =P
 
Your team is rather weak to Gengar. It outspeed almost everything in your team without a boost (bar Starmie) and hits everything (besides Metagross) for super effective damage. Starmie is kinda risky to use against Gengar even though Starmie is faster. Metagross could still use Agility if it's at good health, but it's not a complete counter.

This is why I advise changing your Mixed Tyranitar to the standard Scarfed Tyranitar. It's pretty common for good reasons. ;)
 
Actually, I think that your team is without an answer to scarf flygon, who is becoming more and more popular due to his ability to counter heatran, regardless of the set. He can come in on anything on your team accept the ice beams, U-turn out, and come back again for the kill. What you need is a physical wall to soak up attacks, namely earthquakes. If not that, perhaps change your lead to a scarf starmie. It'll be a check to flygon and outspeeds all leads, with a chance of OHKOing most. I would recommend grass knot or psychic for pert and machamp respectively. BTW, you get better rates if you mention problems that your team has via a threats list or a conclusion. They improve the quality of rates and make your team easier to understand.
 
Thanks for the help. I just added a threats list. Also, I really don't want to use a ScarfMie (but I will if Flygon tears my team apart fairly often), so any other check for a scarfed Flygon would be quite helpful.
 
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