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Ontop

Hello and everone and welcome to a RMT i decided to do with a team i've been playing around with for the last weeks. I hate intro talk so i'll get straight to the at a glance:
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So yeah. This team is based around supporting a Azelf and Weavile sweep. Without any further talk i'll get onto the team:


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The supporting squad
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Light clay
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Bronzong
Levitate
Impish nature
EV: 252 HP 176 Def 80 SpDf

Stealth rock
Reflect
Light screen
Explosion

Bronzong leads off the game really nice for me. He gets of those ever valuabe rocks and the screend meaning Weavile and Azelf will have a easier time sweeping the whole shit. The EV spread i'm running is inspired by the Jirachi lead spread. I rarely feel liek changing to another dual screen + Stealth rock lead like Uxie. although the extra bulk it packs could be nice. Exlposion is serving me well as my only damage inflicting move here. The reason i use Explosion over Earthquake is because when people see this is dual screen they'll often think this is setup fodder for Gyarados and Salamence etc. Then after screens up Exploision will close to K0 them after Intimidate. Or wait... with Stealth rock up that might K0....whatever.




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Shed shell
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Skarmory
Sturdy
Impish nature
EV: 252 HP 4 Df 252 SpDf

Roost
Spikes
Roar
Brave bird


Skarmory my Spike layer. I felt Spikes were absolutely needed on this team and they have proved very usefull. This EV spread is too minimize the damage taken from Latias and the whole special company. I'm not quite sure on the item choice here between Leftovers and Shed shell. I don't really feel like Magnezone is a real problem due to this: I set first layer while they get it Maggy, I set up my second layer while they HP fire and lastly i set up the third layer while they finally K0 with the Hidden power Fire.



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Leftovers
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Celebi
Natural cure
Timid nature
EV: 252 HP 52 SpA 200 Spe

Recover
Thunder wave
Energy ball
Earth power

Thanks god for this Celebi set. It allows me to check threat after threat while getting up Thunder waves to enable a late game sweep. The nature and EV spread here is pretty random as i didn't really now what to run. So far this've been working good. For this set i choosed Leftovers as i couldn't find any other item that would fit well in here. I can't really come up with a description for this set as everything seems pretty obvious.

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The stand-alone revenge killer
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Choice scarf
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Rotom-H
Levitate
Timid nature
EV: 4 HP 252 SpA 252 Spe

Trick
Overheat
Shadow ball
Thunderbolt

My revenge killer is here. This guy together with Azelf is the only pokemon on this whole team that doesn't take 200% damage from fire-attacks. That is terrible. If you would suggest changing this please suggest something that can take fire moves. I might run ScarfTran in here actually... The Timid nature is here to outrun Modest Rotom-H so i can OHKO first with Shadow ball. The moveset here is just plain standard.

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The core-sweepers
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Life orb
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Azelf
Levitate
Timid nature
EV: 4 HP 252 SpA 252 Spe

Nasty plot
Thunder bolt
Grass knot
Flamethrower

Azelf the sweeper from the special side of the spectrum. The reason for the Nasty plot set working really good on Azelf is due to hes high base Speed. Thanks to that i'm not going to need some kinda speed setting up like Agility or Dragon dance. That's kinda what this team is based around, setting up 2+ attacks on Azlef and Weavile. So let's compare the Azelf and the Weavile. The difference is that this guy has acces to much more powerful moves. I might consider changing Grass knot as the only real things it hits is Tyranitar (OHKO after Nasty plot) and Swampert (OHKO).


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Life orb
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Weavile
Pressure
Jolly nature
EV: 252 Atk 4 Df 252 Spe

Sword dance
Ice shard
Pursuit
Brick break

Finally the last pokemon. This fills the exactly same room as Azelf but on the physical side of the spectrum(I like to say that =P). Looking at him we will directly see the that he has alot weaker moves than Azelf. Although those moves hits good in OU, Ice shard on Mence, Brick break on Tyranitar and Pursuit on Starmie, Rotoms, Gengars and Latias. The Jolly nature is to outrun positive natured Scarfed 80 base speeds like, idk. I'm to lazy to write anything more now :D.

Good luck rating X)

Ooh, hope you enjoyed this ;D








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id definetly use low kick over brick break on weavile. And when maggies trap skarmory, they're not gonna hit him with a HP Fire. They're gonna hit him with a STAB thunderbolt. Since he has roost anyway, and isnt damaged by SS, id give him shed shell if i were you
 
There are two main problems with this team.

1. complete lack of defensive synergy. You have absolutely nothing to resist the fire attacks that 2/3 of your team is weak to. A scarftran with a flash fire boost easily 6-0s your team. Hell, it might be able to 6-0 your team without a flash fire boost cause neither azelf nor rotom can do much damage to it. You need some fire resists. What exactly does Celebi do for your team? you never explain it. Maybe replace him with something like Gyara/Latias/Starmie

2. You have no way of removing Azelf and Weavile's counters. For example, both of these pokemon get raped by scizor (especially weavile). You might consider something like hp fire latias that can lure in and kill scizor or magnezone to trap it. Azelf is stopped cold by Blissey (among other things) so you might consider a powerful special attacker that can lure in blissey and explode on it, like Magnezone again.

So a possible change to your team: Magnezone over Skarm, Latias over Celebi??? I don't know, I haven't played with your team so its hard for me to make concrete suggestions like that, but at least try it out.

One final nitpick, Weavile should not be using pursuit on a sweeper set. 40 bp is not cutting it. change that to night slash. You might also want to change brick break to low kick
 
Thanks for the rate. Celebi is very important for this team and is not what i'd like to consider changing. You named a weakness to Heatrans Fire blast. Couldn't i just run Choice scarf Heatran myself?
 
you could chane rotom to bait latias, since instead of scaring off scizor you lure it in, and get the ko. She can also deal with your massive heatran weakness
 
Hey ontop, lets see how I can rate your team.

First of all, you have 4 things on your team weak to Fire which is unacceptable since you're probably never going to win a lot of games with a team weak to 4 things weak to fire and also you have nothing to resist the fire in your team, so what I think you should do first off is replace Bronzong with LeadShucaTran Here's the EVs and Moveset:

Heatran @ Shuca Berry
Nature: Timid / Naive
Evs: 6 HP 252 Sp.att 252 Speed
Moveset:
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Stealth Rock
Explosion

The reason for tran is because of it's ability to take fire attacks and boost it's own fire moves by 1.5, which should be great on your team.

For Skarmory you might want to change some stuff a little bit because those are too much Spdef EVs. So change it to 252 HP 200 Def 58 Speed, why you ask because these are EVs for my taunt skarm which I do really recommend on your team since you have nothing on your team with taunt and also no one really uses brave bird skarm anymore.

For Celebi I think your moveset is wierd and I honestly don't know where you got it, but since you have some pokes weak to Fire I'm going to still change some stuff, you might want to change Celebi into WishVaporeon this could work really well on your team so here's the moveset and EVs:

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Moveset:
Wish
Protect
Surf
HP Electric / Toxic

Rotom is your only pokemon which I think is fine on this team, For Azelf you definitly need to change it, since you also have 3 things weak to Dark/ Ghost. So what you might want to do is Just change Zelf to LOLatias might help you a little bit since Latias is more bulky then Zelf, also Weavile and Azelf gets raped by Scizor, so why not just change and help HP latias to help get rid of your scizor nightmare and just works better in my opinon with this team so these are the EVs and moveset:

Latias @ Life Orb
Nature : Timid
EVs: 6 HP/ 252 Speed/ 252 Sp.att
Moveset:
Surf
Draco Meteor
Grass knot/ Hidden Powe Fire/ Thunderbolt
Recover

Lastly you just might want to change Weavile to have synergy with this team is Salamence it just works great on your team and keeps the weaknesses you have down. So this is a set you might want to try since you have a decent amount of sp.sweepers.

Salamence @ Life orb / Lum Berry
Nature: Naive
EVs: 232 Atk / 24 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset:
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw / Outrage
Fire Blast
Earthquake

Hope my analysis for your team helped and hope you do well in the future good luck.
 
CB Scizor grabs your team by the ass, and butt fucks it into submission with U Turn and Bullet Punch. BP lol's at Azelf and Weavile; U Turn lol's at Celebi, and it skarmory can't do shit to it, so basically what im saying is that Scizor has it's way with your team. I'd change rotom to the standars defensive spread

Rotom-H@Leftovers
Bold 252 Hp/168 Def/88 Spd
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Overheat
Will O Wisp

and change Celebi to a ScarfTran to help with ur fire weakness.

Heatran@Choice Scarf
Naive 252 SpA/252 Spd/4 Atk
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Explosion
Dragon Pulse

helps you combat scizor, and provides a better synergy throughout your team. hope I helped and gl with the team.

Edit: I forgot to tell you, since Weavile is in it's own speed tier, it doesnt need all the speed evs. move 40 of them to hp to help you take hits much better.
 
Hey bro just got your pm.first think that I notice on this team is very big scarftran weak.I mean almost nothing can do something to it.what I suggest is changing celebi to latias not only it give you resistance to fire types,it is also a great checks to heatran and you can run a similiar set like celebi.I'm going to do the full rate later cuz I gtg so this is all for now and good luck ;)
 
To be honest, this team as it is, it is RAPED by a choice scarf/life orb heatran (most common ones).
You should replace either Celebi for a Heatran Choice Scarf or Rest+Sleep Talk, it depends on if you want a fast sweeper or something more bulky. Hope I've helped!
 
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