I'm Feenin'

theebay707

Banned deucer.

Introduction

Hello, this is a team I've built just to ladder with and also works as a Steel-Mono. I've managed to peak at rank 60 I think, with 1380ish CRE, got to lazy to ladder any further. This team does pretty well at playing against today's metagame, but only losing to a few threats and some bad matchups. Well, that's all I have to say. Onwards to the team!

At A Glance

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The Team

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Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spd
Nature: Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
Moveset: Crunch | Pursuit | Superpower | Stone Edge

ScarfTar is really underrated in this metagame and is really a beast. It's able to check some of the top special attackers such as Lati@s, Starmie, and the genies, all common on Drizzle teams. ScarfTar also gives me an early advantage against DS Shell Smash teams as they'll usually lead with Espeon in the hopes of getting screens up only to be outsped and OHKOd. Sun basically has no chance unless they run the rare Sub Chandelure to lure me in.

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Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 HP | 252 SAtk | 44 Spd
Nature: Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
Moveset: Nasty Plot | Giga Drain | Hidden Power [Fire] | Psychic

Celebi acts as a my offensive-defensive glue. Celebi does make a fine sweeper with nasty plot + great coverage and makes a fine defensive sponge to water-type moves from rain teams. It's a cool pokemon to use with natural cure meaning it won't be discouraged after its been paralyzed or something. Giga drain + Psychic + Hp fire provide optimal coverage.

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Slowbro (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Def | 4 SAtk
Nature: Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
Moveset: Psychic | Scald | Thunder Wave | Slack Off

With a fine-tuned Slowbro in the newer generation, feast your eyes on one of the most annoying physical walls to exist. Slowbro acts as my back-up water-type attack sponge because you're bound to have troubles in a tier filled with rain. I've grown to love slowbro due to its ability to check so many physical threats and provide paralysis support. I would list all of the physical threat slowbro checks.

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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Steadfast
EVs: 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spd
Nature: Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
Moveest: Swords Dance | Close Combat | Crunch | ExtremeSpeed

Lucario is soooo good!. It allows me to check things like Heatran and Jellicent, something that Scizor can't do. At +2, not a lot of thing's can take a Close Combat or Crunch besides Gliscor.

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Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP | 252 SDef | 4 Spd
Nature: Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
Moveset: Stealth Rock | Lava Plume | Protect | Roar

Specially defensive Heatran is a brilliant pokemon in general at the moment, as it just works beautifully against so many of the pokemon that give this team trouble, as well as being an incredible answer to any sun team that doesn’t have a Dugtrio. With the amount of switches Heatran can force along with Roar and all three hazards, it can be incredibly difficult to play against, and makes postponing the likes of Ferrothorn and Forretress getting hazards up for as long as possible much easier.

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Forretress (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Def | 4 SDef
Nature: Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
Moveset: Spikes | Rapid Spin | Volt Switch | Toxic Spikes

Forretress is often overlooked in BW due to tough competition in the forms of Skarmory and Ferrothorn, who can both set-up Spikes as well as take on Sand teams and Rain teams respectively. However, Forretress still has its advantages; namely Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin. However, without recovery, it is far from the ideal check to these threats, as it gets worn down quite quickly by even their resisted Dragon-type attacks. I decided to go with a purely physically defensive EV spread and nature, just so that Outrage-locked Dragons are doing as little damage as possible.

Conclusion
Overall this team has been so good. It has to be one of the Sandstorm teams I've ever made. Thank you all for reading this.

Changes will be in Bold
 

Offensive Threats

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Tyranitar:

  • Choice Band - Lucario
  • Choice Scarf - Forretress + Slowbro can take care of it

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Rotom-W:

  • Choice Scarf / Specs - Heatran + Celebi can take care of it

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Scizor:

  • Choice Band -Heatran
  • Swords Dance -Usually Heatran, but if there's some Speed investment and Jolly nature, then RAGE QUIT!

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Dragonite:

  • Choice Band - Slowbro + Tyranitar can take care of it
  • Dragon Dance - Heatran can roar out, but if there's EQ, then TTar can probably outspeed, can't remember. But if not, Slowbro can T-Wave and allow for another poke to KO

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Politoed:

  • Choice Specs / Scarf - Celebi

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Heatran:

  • Standard -Lucario

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Jirachi:

  • Substitute + Calm Mind / Wish + Calm Mind -If i can roar it own at +1, then it gets roared out. But at +3 or more, RAGE QUIT!

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Latios:

  • Life Orb -Heatran + Tyranitar
  • Choice Scarf / Specs -Heatran + Tyranitar
  • Calm Mind -Heatran + Tyranitar

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Reuniclus:

  • Calm Mind -Tyranitar + Lucario
  • Offensive Trick Room - Uhhh, pretty difficult. But Heatran can stall out some Focus Blasts, then Tyranitar or Lucario can go for the KO

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Deoxys-S:

  • Standard -Tyranitar can just keep Pursuiting and then Forretress can Spin the rocks away
  • Dual Screens -Tyranitar can just keep Pursuiting and then Forretress can Spin the rocks away
  • Life Orb Sweeper -My best bet is to make sure it gets below 50% so Extremepeed can KO.

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Haxorus:

  • Choice Scarf / Choice Band -Heatran + Forretress. Lucario can KO if it's weakened enough
  • Dragon Dance -Heatran + Forretress. Lucario can KO if it's weakened enough

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Ninetales:

  • Nasty Plot -Hearan
  • Choice Specs -Heatran
  • Special Attacker -Heatran

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Conkeldurr:

  • Bulk Up -Slowbro + Celebi

Celebi:
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  • Nasty Plot Sweeper -Heatran can KO non-Earth Power variants, but other than that, it can take it on
  • Tinkerbell -Heatran + Tyranitar + my own Celebi
  • Choice Specs / Choice Scarf -Heatran + Cele + Lucario

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Terrakion:

  • Double Dance - Slowbro
  • Choice Scarf / Choice Band -Slowbro

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Gyarados:

  • Offensive / Bulky Dragon Dance -Slowbro

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Gengar:

  • Substitute + Disable / Pain Split -Heatran has to stall out some Focus Blasts or make the sub go away so that Tyranitar can go for the KO. But if i lose TTar and Heatran, then RAGE QUIT!

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Starmie:

  • Life Orb -Tyranitar
  • Rapid Spin -Tyranitar
  • Choice Specs -Tyranitar

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Landorus:

  • RAGE QUIT!

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Infernape:

  • Mixed Attacker -Slowbro + Heatran + Tyranitar
  • Nasty Plot / Swords Dance Booster -Slowbro + Heatran + Tyranitar
  • Choice Band -Slowbro

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Volcarona:

  • Offensive Quiver Dance -Non-HP Ground Variants can be trouble some, but other than that, Heatran
  • Bulky Quiver Dance -Heatran
  • Chesto Rest -Heatran
  • Substitute -Heatran

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Magnezone:

  • Substitute - Lucario + Heatran + Celebi + Tyranitar
  • Choice Scarf -Heatran

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Espeon:

  • Calm Mind -Tyranitar

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Salamence:

  • Dragon Dance -At +1, it can be pretty hard. I'd have to T-Wave it so i can KO
  • Mixed -Heatran + Tyranitar
  • Defensive -Heatran

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Hydreigon:

  • Offensive -Heatran + Tyranitar
  • Choice Specs / Choice Scarf -Heatran + Tyranitar

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Breloom:

  • Sub Seed -Celebi
  • Sub Punch -Celebi

Latias:
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  • Calm Mind -Tyranitar + Heatran

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Toxicroak:

  • Swords Dance -Celebi + Slowbro
  • Bulk Up -Celebi + Slowbro

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Lucario:

  • Swords Dance -Tyranitar or Slowbro, if they're not using Crunch
  • Nasty Plot -RAGE QUIT. JK. Don't know. Haven't battled an NP Luke yet

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Virizion:

  • Calm Mind -Celebi + Tyranitar
  • Swords Dance -Celebi + Tyranitar

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Scrafty:

  • Dragon Dance - Slowbro T-Waves so Luke can KO
  • Bulk Up - Lucario + Tyranitar

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Venusaur:

  • Special Growth -Heatran
  • Mixed Growth -Heatran + Tyranitar + Celebi if Sun is gone
  • SubSeed -Heatran

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Metagross:

  • Stealth Rock -Heatran + Lucario + Slowbro
  • Choice Scarf / Choice Band -Heatran + Lucario + Slowbro
  • Agility - Heatran + + Slowbro

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Mienshao:

  • All-Out Attacker -Heatran can Protect on the Hi-Jump Kick, and Slowbro Walls
  • Choice Scarf / Choice Band -Slowbro

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Cloyster:

  • Shell Smash -Heatran + Slowbro

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Mamoswine:

  • Physical Attacker -Slowbro + Lucario

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Darmanitan:

  • Choice Scarf -Slowbro

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Tornadus:

  • Rain Abuser -Tyranitar

Defensive Threats
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Tyranitar:

  • Specially Defensive -Tyranitar + Lucario

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Rotom-W:

  • Standard -Celebi

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Ferrothorn:

  • Standard -Heatran + Lucario + Celebi + Tyranitar

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Politoed:

  • Defensive -Celebi and to an extent, Slowbro

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Gliscor:

  • Swords Dance -Celebi + Slowbro
  • Substitute + Protect -Celebi + Slowbro
  • AcroBat -Celebi + Slowbro
  • Defensive -Celebi

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Heatran:

  • Specially Defensive -Tyranitar + Lucario

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Jirachi:

  • Specially Defensive -Heatran + Celebi at +6 lololol

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Skarmory:

  • Physically Defensive Spiker -Heatran
  • Specially Defensive Spiker -Heatran

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Ninetales:

  • Specially Defensive -Heatran

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Celebi:

  • Physically Defensive -Heatran

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Forretress:

  • Physically Defensive Spiker -Heatran
  • Specially Defensive Spiker -Heatran

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Gyarados:

  • RestTalk -Heatran + Slowbro + Tyranitar + Celebi

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Jellicent:

  • Utility Counter -Tyranitar + Celebi + Lucario

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Tentacruel:

  • Toxic Spikes -Celebi

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Gastrodon:

  • Tank -Celebi

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Espeon:

  • Dual Screens -Tyranitar
  • Baton Pass -Uhh, if speed boost is past on, then i don't even know. Hahaha

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Blissey:

  • Support -Lucario

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Vaporeon:

  • Wish Support -Celebi

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Latias:

  • Support -Tyranitar + Heatran

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Bronzong:

  • Tank -Heatran + Lucario + Celebi
  • Dual Screens -Heatran + Lucario + Celebi

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Swampert:

  • Defensive -Celebi

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Mew:

  • Stallbreaker -Heatran + Lucario + Tyranitar

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Slowbro:

  • Tank -Celebi + Lucario

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Quagsire:

  • Curse -Celebi
  • Specially Defensive -Celebi
  • Physically Defensive -Celebi


Exportable
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Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- Stone Edge

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 72 HP / 252 SAtk / 184 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Psychic

Slowbro (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Scald
- Thunder Wave
- Slack Off

Lucario (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Steadfast
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- ExtremeSpeed

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Protect
- Roar

Forretress (F) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Volt Switch
- Toxic Spikes
 
-Lucario needs Inner Focus as its ability. It's a far better ability.
-Lucario needs Life Orb as its item. Air Balloon is useless, and the ability to have a chance to OHKO Skarmory after Stealth Rock (you can't do that with Air Balloon) is a necessity.

Hope this helped.

Also, I think you can use Leftovers on Forry since Shed Shell and Volt Switch at the same time is redundant.
 
-Lucario needs Inner Focus as its ability. It's a far better ability.
-Lucario needs Life Orb as its item. Air Balloon is useless, and the ability to have a chance to OHKO Skarmory after Stealth Rock (you can't do that with Air Balloon) is a necessity.

Hope this helped.

Also, I think you can use Leftovers on Forry since Shed Shell and Volt Switch at the same time is redundant.
Never really bothered about changing the ability since Rachi is usually handled by Heatran and Togekiss is handled by Heatran or Tyranitar. But I'll change it haha.

Yeah, since i changed Crunch to Ice Punch, i should go with Life Orb.

Shed Shell + Volt Switch allows me to escape Zone easier and Volt Switch is so i won't be taunt bait and do some damage on the switch. Gyro Ball or any other move won't be doing much to any other poke anyway
 
Hey there.

First off, I suggest that you switch your Celebi's EV Spread to 220 HP / 252 SAtk / 36 Speed. Your team is very defensively based, and you need Celebi in order to take high powered attacks from powerful sweepers such as Choice Specs Politoed. For this reason, run Recover over Psychic. While it does hinder Celebi's sweeping capabilities, it will save your team against powerful rain teams. Attackers such as the aforementioned Choice Specs Politoed and Choice Specs Rotom-W can deal major damage to all of your pokemon; without Recover, Celebi will be easily worn down and killed. Threats such as Dragonite that can beat non-Psychic Celebis are easily taken on by your other pokemon such as Slowbro.

I also suggest that you run a Relaxed Nature on Forretress. This will decrease Forretress's speed even further, and allow Forretress to move last against almost all opponents, thus letting you bring in your other pokemon safely with Volt Switch. Also, replace Shed Shell with Leftovers. Magnezone isn't common enough to sacrifice a held item just to escape its grasp; Volt Switch can be used on a predicted Magnezone switch-in regardless.

Running a Relaxed Nature on Slowbro would be beneficial as well, since it would allow Slowbro to be slower than standard Brave Conkeldurr, who can otherwise live a Psychic and deal major damage in return with Payback.

Very solid team. Hope I helped, and good luck!
 
Hi, this is a solid team. However, there are a few synergy issues with this team. First of all, you run Toxic Spikes on Forretress and Thunder Wave on Slowbro. This will do you more harm than good in the long run, because a Pokemon you absolutely needed Paralyzed could end up Poisoned, ruining your chances of beating it. With the defensive nature of this team, I think running Ice Beam over Thunder Wave on Slowbro would be the best option. This allows Slowbro to tank Dragonite/ Salamence's hits and retaliate with a x4 move. Ice Beam also allows Slowbro to deal with other troublesome Pokemon such as Gliscor. Landorus shouldn't be giving you any problems since Slowbro will tank the hits with ease and respond with an OHKO. I also suggest running Life Orb on Lucario and keeping Crunch>Ice Punch. Honestly, the only Pokemon you will ever be using Ice Punch on is Dragonite, since any good player will run 216 Speed on Gliscor nowadays. Since you already have Tyranitar and Slowbro to deal with it, this shouldn't be a problem.

The biggest issue with this team atm, is Trick Room Reuniclus. It can easily set up on Slowbro or Forretress, especially if you got Toxic Spikes up earlier in the match. The only way you can beat Reuniclus after that is through PP stalling, which lets be honest is not a good idea at all. Sun teams could also prove problematic if Heatran gets picked off by a Dugtrio. Since most of Celebi's roles are already fulfilled by Slowbro, I suggest swapping it out for a CM Latias to mitigate some of these problems. With its incredible Special Bulk, Latias is very rarely 2HKOd by TR Reuniclus' Shadow Ball even without a Calm Mind boost. It also serves as both a great sun and rain check. Most of Celebi's old assignments such as Politoed and Rotom-W can be taken care of by Latias as well. Instead of the old CM Roar Latias everyone uses nowadays, I suggest using Refresh as the last move. This allows Latias to serve as your status absorber, and arguably does it better than Celebi because it is not required to switch out! You already have Tyranitar taking care of CM Reuniclus, so Latias does not need to carry Roar to deal with it. The only downside to making this switch is you lose that Grass STAB. But Pokemon such as Quagsire and Gastrodon are easily shut down via Toxic Spikes, and should prove non-issue. So the only real problem is that you lose your best Breloom check, Slowbro can beat it, but is not the best option.

One last thing, are you basing this team around an SD Lucario sweep? Or are you aiming to create a stall team? If its the former, then consider these changes. If it is the latter, ignore this post entirely and I will give you a completely new rate.

In Summary:
3 Attacks Slowbro>T-Wave Slowbro
pros: can hit more threats, T-Wave no longer clashes synergistically with Toxic Spikes
cons: I guess you lose T-Wave

CM Refresh Latias>NP Celebi
pros: helps take on TR Reuniclus, performs most of Celebi's tasks but also backs Heatran up against Sun teams
cons: lose your check to Breloom

GL

Sets:
Slowbro @ Leftovers
Regenerator
Relaxed
252 Hp/ 252 Def/ 4 SpA
- Scald
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off

Latias @ Leftovers
Levitate
Timid
252 Hp/ 252 Spe/ 4 SpA
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Recover
- Refresh
 
Hey there.

First off, I suggest that you switch your Celebi's EV Spread to 220 HP / 252 SAtk / 36 Speed. Your team is very defensively based, and you need Celebi in order to take high powered attacks from powerful sweepers such as Choice Specs Politoed. For this reason, run Recover over Psychic. While it does hinder Celebi's sweeping capabilities, it will save your team against powerful rain teams. Attackers such as the aforementioned Choice Specs Politoed and Choice Specs Rotom-W can deal major damage to all of your pokemon; without Recover, Celebi will be easily worn down and killed. Threats such as Dragonite that can beat non-Psychic Celebis are easily taken on by your other pokemon such as Slowbro.

I also suggest that you run a Relaxed Nature on Forretress. This will decrease Forretress's speed even further, and allow Forretress to move last against almost all opponents, thus letting you bring in your other pokemon safely with Volt Switch. Also, replace Shed Shell with Leftovers. Magnezone isn't common enough to sacrifice a held item just to escape its grasp; Volt Switch can be used on a predicted Magnezone switch-in regardless.

Running a Relaxed Nature on Slowbro would be beneficial as well, since it would allow Slowbro to be slower than standard Brave Conkeldurr, who can otherwise live a Psychic and deal major damage in return with Payback.

Very solid team. Hope I helped, and good luck!

For Celebi, I probably will change the EVs since i'm not really outspeeding anything. I mainly ran those EVs before I had Lucario on the team and was using Earth Power Celebi. And as for Recover over Psychic, i'm really not sure about it cause Psychic lets me beat Dragons besides Lati@s and Tentacruel.

For Forretress & Slowbro, I changed the natures and Leftovers > Shed Shell on Forry since i did see less Magnezone.

Hi, this is a solid team. However, there are a few synergy issues with this team. First of all, you run Toxic Spikes on Forretress and Thunder Wave on Slowbro. This will do you more harm than good in the long run, because a Pokemon you absolutely needed Paralyzed could end up Poisoned, ruining your chances of beating it. With the defensive nature of this team, I think running Ice Beam over Thunder Wave on Slowbro would be the best option. This allows Slowbro to tank Dragonite/ Salamence's hits and retaliate with a x4 move. Ice Beam also allows Slowbro to deal with other troublesome Pokemon such as Gliscor. Landorus shouldn't be giving you any problems since Slowbro will tank the hits with ease and respond with an OHKO. I also suggest running Life Orb on Lucario and keeping Crunch>Ice Punch. Honestly, the only Pokemon you will ever be using Ice Punch on is Dragonite, since any good player will run 216 Speed on Gliscor nowadays. Since you already have Tyranitar and Slowbro to deal with it, this shouldn't be a problem.

The biggest issue with this team atm, is Trick Room Reuniclus. It can easily set up on Slowbro or Forretress, especially if you got Toxic Spikes up earlier in the match. The only way you can beat Reuniclus after that is through PP stalling, which lets be honest is not a good idea at all. Sun teams could also prove problematic if Heatran gets picked off by a Dugtrio. Since most of Celebi's roles are already fulfilled by Slowbro, I suggest swapping it out for a CM Latias to mitigate some of these problems. With its incredible Special Bulk, Latias is very rarely 2HKOd by TR Reuniclus' Shadow Ball even without a Calm Mind boost. It also serves as both a great sun and rain check. Most of Celebi's old assignments such as Politoed and Rotom-W can be taken care of by Latias as well. Instead of the old CM Roar Latias everyone uses nowadays, I suggest using Refresh as the last move. This allows Latias to serve as your status absorber, and arguably does it better than Celebi because it is not required to switch out! You already have Tyranitar taking care of CM Reuniclus, so Latias does not need to carry Roar to deal with it. The only downside to making this switch is you lose that Grass STAB. But Pokemon such as Quagsire and Gastrodon are easily shut down via Toxic Spikes, and should prove non-issue. So the only real problem is that you lose your best Breloom check, Slowbro can beat it, but is not the best option.

One last thing, are you basing this team around an SD Lucario sweep? Or are you aiming to create a stall team? If its the former, then consider these changes. If it is the latter, ignore this post entirely and I will give you a completely new rate.

In Summary:
3 Attacks Slowbro>T-Wave Slowbro
pros: can hit more threats, T-Wave no longer clashes synergistically with Toxic Spikes
cons: I guess you lose T-Wave

CM Refresh Latias>NP Celebi
pros: helps take on TR Reuniclus, performs most of Celebi's tasks but also backs Heatran up against Sun teams
cons: lose your check to Breloom

GL

Sets:
Slowbro @ Leftovers
Regenerator
Relaxed
252 Hp/ 252 Def/ 4 SpA
- Scald
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off

Latias @ Leftovers
Levitate
Timid
252 Hp/ 252 Spe/ 4 SpA
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Recover
- Refresh

Thunder Wave would let me Para things like a Rotom-W trying to switch in, Dragons, and other pokemon that Resist Toxic Spikes. Also lets me para Balloon Terrakion. Though, I will give Ice Beam a try and see how it goes.

Hmm a CM Latias w/ Refresh. Never crossed my mind but I’ll give it a shot because it seems like it can work after Scizor, Ferro, and Skarm are gone.

Tyranitar and Lucario are just there to pick off anything that are weakened. So I really don’t know… I guess my team is around an SD Lucario Sweep


Thanks you two for the awesome rate :). I'll give some of your suggestions a try and see how it goes from there and post back here if it does work or not for me
 
Well, it seems like you are pretty confused as to the direction that you would like to take with this team. At a first glance, it seems like a pretty solid team if you want to go towards a more defensive / stall based route. Although, Lucario seems to be the main focus of the team, and because of that, I think that if you tried to shift your team towards a more offensive / bulky offensive archetype, then it would be much more effective. You mention in your threat list that you kind of have problems with Landorus. Skarmory would be a really effective spiker in place of Forretress currently. At the moment, you have no ground immunity, which could pose to be a huge threat to your entire team and explain why you are having some slight problems with variants of Landorus. Since Lucario is not running ice punch, Dragonite is able to check it to an extent. With Skarmory, you will have quite a few variants of Dragonite in check meaning that Lucario will be able to clean up a bit easier later on in the match.

You still do have some minor cm Reuniclus issues. In most cases, scarf Tyranitar really won't be enough to deal with it. It will have to be sitting at almost below half help most of the time in order for you to have any way of easily dealing with it via scarf Tyranitar. If you decide to shift this team to a more offensive standpoint, I would suggest running a cm roar Latias over Slowbro. This allows you to check Reuniclus for the most part as well as abuse hazards that are set up by Skarmory. With Celebi and Latias on your team, you essentially have a way to deal with almost all types of drizzle, especially with swords dance Lucario. gl.
 
WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE PICTURES?
I would like to know
Id switch out celebi or slowbro for a dragon, that's me
Forty seems A little ut of place as does lucario. Dunno I hate forry usually. Luke is better with a hyper offense team, life orb pokemon aren't great on bulky teams.
 
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