National Dex Ubers IronPress Garganacl [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

[Bobsican]

[SET]
name: IronPress
move 1: Salt Cure
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Iron Defense
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers
ability: Purifying Salt
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD
tera type: Water / Fairy

[SET COMMENTS]

* Garganacl's longevity allows it to act as a stallbreaker and a win condition against bulky teams thanks to the threat of Salt Cure. However, as it often heavily relies on Terastallizing to fix its vulnerability to Ground-types, combined with being easy to force out by special attackers, Garganacl is a niche pick for dedicated balance teams.
* The IronPress combination ensures that Garganacl can check several physical foes such as defensive Primal Groudon, Necrozma-DM, and Extreme Killer Arceus without having to Terastallize, notably preventing itself from becoming setup fodder if an opponent such as Zygarde uses Substitute.
* The given EV spread avoids a 2HKO from Basculegion-M's 300-Base Power Last Respects after Leftovers recovery, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and special utility Giratina-O's Draco Meteor. This amount of bulk also avoids a 2HKO from Double Dance Primal Groudon's Precipice Blades after Garganacl has Terastallized.
* Tera Water allows Garganacl to more comfortably come into Steel- and Water-types vulnerable to Salt Cure such as Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Water. Tera Fairy makes Garganacl hard wall Marshadow, support Arceus-Dark, and Giratina-O, and grants an immunity to Dragon Tail from foes such as Giratina-O and Zygarde, letting Garganacl preserve Iron Defense boosts.
* Garganacl's main priority is to spread Salt Cure, wearing down the opposing team and granting its allies momentum as the opposing team is put into uncomfortable positions. Mid-game, Garganacl can be used as a check to physical attackers, as its status-absorbing capabilities also let it easily come into foes such as Ho-Oh, Alomomola, and Giratina-O. Late-game, it may try to apply offensive pressure with IronPress to threaten a sweep, as special attackers that can threaten Garganacl such as Yveltal and Eternatus are more vulnerable to Garganacl after getting worn down.
* Against offensive team structures, Garganacl can find use against foes it can wall such as Extreme Killer Arceus and Rayquaza thanks to the IronPress combination, preventing it from being as easy to overwhelm on the physical side as it forces a switch, but if the momentum is disfavorable for it, Garganacl can still be used to hinder setup sweepers such as Necrozma-DM, Primal Kyogre, and Zacian-C, putting them on a timer and preventing them from doing much else without sacrificing momentum.
* Garganacl has a positive matchup against the most common entry hazard removers in the metagame, notably including Ho-Oh and Giratina-O, so its presence can actively discourage them from entering the field, meaning that entry hazard setters such as Eternatus, Primal Groudon, and Ferrothorn make formidable allies.
* Garganacl is generally vulnerable to special attackers such as Yveltal, Arceus-Fairy, and Primal Kyogre, so checks to them such as defensive Eternatus and Ferrothorn are notable options to mitigate this issue. Zacian-C is also a notable partner that can put offensive pressure on Garganacl's checks such as the previously mentioned foes.
* Unless it has already Terastallized, Garganacl is vulnerable to Ground- and Fighting-type foes such as Primal Groudon, Arceus-Ground, and Marshadow. Pokemon such as Ho-Oh, Giratina-O, and Yveltal act as switch-ins to them for Garganacl to rely on early-game, with Garganacl in return limiting the longevity of their checks such as Chien-Pao and Extreme Killer Arceus.

[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sami.604820/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sunny004.197240/

 

[bumboclaat]

GJ. 1/2 when applied. We can discuss on discord, but I get the feeling a SpD EV spread can be added as well.

rip hexagone's sanity

add remove comment
name: IronPress
move 1: Salt Cure
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Iron Defense
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers
ability: Purifying Salt
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD
tera type: Water / Fairy

[SET COMMENTS]

* As a wall that generally avoids passivity thanks to the threat of Salt Cure, Garganacl's longevity allows it to act as a stallbreaker and a win condition against bulky teams.this might read better if you swapped the sentence around. However, as it often heavily relies on Terastallizing to fix its vulnerability to the trend of Ground-types in the metagameground types have the tier as long it has existed, combined with being easy to force out by special attackers, makes Garganacl a niche pick for dedicated teams.what archetype of teams? It is best to specify.
* Iron Defense + Body Press ensures that Garganacl can check several physical foes such as Primal Groudon, Necrozma-DM, and Arceus without having to Terastallize, notably preventing itself from becoming setup fodder if a opponent uses Substitute.Which substitute Pokemon do you have in mind because the ones listed don't use it.
* The given EV spread avoids a 2HKO from Basculegion-M's 300-Base Power Last Respects after Leftovers recovery, fully invested Adamant Dragon Dance's don't think we have 252+ Zygarde as a set nor is it really used. Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and special utility Giratina-O's Draco Meteor. This amount of bulk also avoids a 2HKO from Double Dance Primal Groudon's Precipice Blades after Garganacl has Terastallized. This is more up your alley than mine, but is a SpD oriented spread worth listing? Lets it shake off neutral judgments and stuff.
* Tera Water allows Garganacl to more comfortably come into Steel- and Water-types vulnerable to Salt Cure such as Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Water. Tera Fairy makes Garganacl hard wall Marshadow, Arceus-Dark, and Giratina-O, and grants an immunity to Dragon Tail from foes such as Giratina-O and Zygarde, easing Garganacl at preserving Iron Defense boosts. It is probably worth pointing out that w/ Tera Fairy Garganacl resists both of Marshadow's STABs and easily switches in. It is worthwhile mentioning that imo b/c of how hard Marshadow is to switch into safely. It is also worth mentioning either here or in the usage tips section that Garganacl tends to be Tera reliant to function as a wall.
* Garganacl's main priority is to spread Salt Cure, wearing down the opposing team and granting its allies momentum as the opposing team is put into uncomfortable positions. Mid-game, Garganacl can be used as a check to physical attackers, its status absorbing capabilities also let it easily come into foes such as Ho-Oh, Alomomola, and Giratina-O. Late-game it may try to apply offensive pressure with IronPress to threaten with a sweep as special attackers that can threaten Garganacl such as Yveltal and Eternatus are more vulnerable to Garganacl after getting worn down. Is Garganacl doing anything v HO or is it just sac fodder? I'd also specify how well Garganacl punishes Defog.
* As Garganacl forces a lot of switches with Salt Cure, entry hazard setters such as Eternatus, Primal Groudon, and Ferrothorn make formidable allies.
* Garganacl is generally vulnerable to special attackers such as Yveltal, Arceus-Fairy, and Primal Kyogre, checks to them such as defensive Eternatus, Zacian-C, and Ferrothorn are notable options to mitigate such issue. Mention what Zacian-C is helping Garganacl with offensively since everything else mentioned is part of a defensive core. Additionally, if there are any other offensive Pokemon you feel benefit from Garganacl's support list them here. Otherwise this bullet can merged with the ones above.
* Garganacl is vulnerable to Ground- and Fighting-type foes such as Primal Groudon, Arceus-Ground, and Marshadow Tera, Pokemon such as Ho-Oh, Giratina-O, and Yveltal act as switch-ins to them for Garganacl to rely on.

[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user3.103/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/

 

[Sami]

want to review again before stamping
add remove comment

if this thing rises on VR zekrom better get some more respect for substitute

[SET]
name: IronPress
move 1: Salt Cure
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Iron Defense
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers
ability: Purifying Salt
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD
tera type: Water / Fairy

[SET COMMENTS]

* Garganacl's longevity allows it to act as a stallbreaker and a win condition against bulky teams thanks to the threat of Salt Cure. However, as it often heavily relies on Terastallizing to fix its vulnerability to Ground-types, combined with being easy to force out by special attackers, Garganacl is a niche pick for dedicated balance teams.
* Iron Defense + Body Press ensures that Garganacl can check several physical foes such as defensive Primal Groudon, Necrozma-DM, and Extreme Killer Arceus without having to Terastallize, notably preventing itself from becoming setup fodder if a opponent such as Zygarde uses Substitute.
* The given EV spread avoids a 2HKO from Basculegion-M's 300-Base Power Last Respects after Leftovers recovery, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and special utility Giratina-O's Draco Meteor. This amount of bulk also avoids a 2HKO from Double Dance Primal Groudon's Precipice Blades after Garganacl has Terastallized.
* Tera Water allows Garganacl to more comfortably come into Steel- and Water-types vulnerable to Salt Cure such as Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Water. Tera Fairy makes Garganacl hard wall Marshadow, Arceus-Dark, and Giratina-O, and grants an immunity to Dragon Tail from foes such as Giratina-O and Zygarde, easing Garganacl at preserving Iron Defense boosts. could mention its utility against offensive yveltal and cm darkceus (also should the previous mention of Arceus-Dark be called "support Arceus-Dark" because CM is getting pretty popular afaik)
* Garganacl's main priority is to spread Salt Cure, wearing down the opposing team and granting its allies momentum as the opposing team is put into uncomfortable positions. Mid-game, Garganacl can be used as a check to physical attackers, its status absorbing capabilities also let it easily come into foes such as Ho-Oh, Alomomola, and Giratina-O. Late-game it may try to apply offensive pressure with IronPress to threaten with a sweep as special attackers that can threaten Garganacl such as Yveltal and Eternatus are more vulnerable to Garganacl after getting worn down.
* Against offensive team structures, Garganacl can find use against foes it can wall such as Extreme Killer Arceus and Rayquaza thanks to the IronPress combo, preventing it from being as easy to overwhelm on the physical side as it forces a switch, but if the momentum is disfavorable for it, Garganacl can still be used to hinder setup sweepers such as Necrozma-DM, Primal Kyogre, and Zacian-C, putting them into a timer and preventing them from doing much else without sacrificing momentum.
* Garganacl has a positive matchup against the most common entry hazard removers in the metagame, notably including Ho-Oh and Giratina-O, so its presence can actively discourage them from entering the field, (AC) meaning that entry hazard setters such as Eternatus, Primal Groudon, and Ferrothorn make formidable allies. merged the two bullet points
* Garganacl is generally vulnerable to special attackers such as Yveltal, Arceus-Fairy, and Primal Kyogre, checks to them such as defensive Eternatus and Ferrothorn are notable options to mitigate such issue. Tera Electric Zacian-C is also a notable partner that can offensive pressure Garganacl's checks which checks? how? also this tera isnt even listed on the zacc analysis.
* Unless it has already Terastallized, Garganacl is vulnerable to Ground- and Fighting-type foes such as Primal Groudon, Arceus-Ground, and Marshadow, Pokemon such as Ho-Oh, Giratina-O, and Yveltal act as switch-ins to them for Garganacl to rely on early-game how does garg help them back?.

[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sami.604820/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/

 

[Bobsican]

GP Team

 

[Sami]

qc 2/2

want to review again before stamping
add remove comment

if this thing rises on VR zekrom better get some more respect for substitute

[SET]
name: IronPress
move 1: Salt Cure
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Iron Defense
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers
ability: Purifying Salt
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD
tera type: Water / Fairy

[SET COMMENTS]

* Garganacl's longevity allows it to act as a stallbreaker and a win condition against bulky teams thanks to the threat of Salt Cure. However, as it often heavily relies on Terastallizing to fix its vulnerability to Ground-types, combined with being easy to force out by special attackers, Garganacl is a niche pick for dedicated balance teams.
* Iron Defense + Body Press ensures that Garganacl can check several physical foes such as defensive Primal Groudon, Necrozma-DM, and Extreme Killer Arceus without having to Terastallize, notably preventing itself from becoming setup fodder if a opponent such as Zygarde uses Substitute.
* The given EV spread avoids a 2HKO from Basculegion-M's 300-Base Power Last Respects after Leftovers recovery, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and special utility Giratina-O's Draco Meteor. This amount of bulk also avoids a 2HKO from Double Dance Primal Groudon's Precipice Blades after Garganacl has Terastallized.
* Tera Water allows Garganacl to more comfortably come into Steel- and Water-types vulnerable to Salt Cure such as Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Water. Tera Fairy makes Garganacl hard wall Marshadow, Arceus-Dark, and Giratina-O, and grants an immunity to Dragon Tail from foes such as Giratina-O and Zygarde, easing Garganacl at preserving Iron Defense boosts. could mention its utility against offensive yveltal and cm darkceus (also should the previous mention of Arceus-Dark be called "support Arceus-Dark" because CM is getting pretty popular afaik)
* Garganacl's main priority is to spread Salt Cure, wearing down the opposing team and granting its allies momentum as the opposing team is put into uncomfortable positions. Mid-game, Garganacl can be used as a check to physical attackers, its status absorbing capabilities also let it easily come into foes such as Ho-Oh, Alomomola, and Giratina-O. Late-game it may try to apply offensive pressure with IronPress to threaten with a sweep as special attackers that can threaten Garganacl such as Yveltal and Eternatus are more vulnerable to Garganacl after getting worn down.
* Against offensive team structures, Garganacl can find use against foes it can wall such as Extreme Killer Arceus and Rayquaza thanks to the IronPress combo, preventing it from being as easy to overwhelm on the physical side as it forces a switch, but if the momentum is disfavorable for it, Garganacl can still be used to hinder setup sweepers such as Necrozma-DM, Primal Kyogre, and Zacian-C, putting them into a timer and preventing them from doing much else without sacrificing momentum.
* Garganacl has a positive matchup against the most common entry hazard removers in the metagame, notably including Ho-Oh and Giratina-O, so its presence can actively discourage them from entering the field, (AC) meaning that entry hazard setters such as Eternatus, Primal Groudon, and Ferrothorn make formidable allies. merged the two bullet points
* Garganacl is generally vulnerable to special attackers such as Yveltal, Arceus-Fairy, and Primal Kyogre, checks to them such as defensive Eternatus and Ferrothorn are notable options to mitigate such issue. Tera Electric Zacian-C is also a notable partner that can offensive pressure Garganacl's checks which checks? how? also this tera isnt even listed on the zacc analysis.
* Unless it has already Terastallized, Garganacl is vulnerable to Ground- and Fighting-type foes such as Primal Groudon, Arceus-Ground, and Marshadow, Pokemon such as Ho-Oh, Giratina-O, and Yveltal act as switch-ins to them for Garganacl to rely on early-game how does garg help them back?.

[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sami.604820/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/

 

[sunny004]

add remove comment
1/1 GP Team done

salty

[SET]
name: IronPress
move 1: Salt Cure
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Iron Defense
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers
ability: Purifying Salt
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD
tera type: Water / Fairy

[SET COMMENTS]

* Garganacl's longevity allows it to act as a stallbreaker and a win condition against bulky teams thanks to the threat of Salt Cure. However, as it often heavily relies on Terastallizing to fix its vulnerability to Ground-types, combined with being easy to force out by special attackers, Garganacl is a niche pick for dedicated balance teams.
* Iron Defense + Body Press The IronPress combination tag me on disc if you want to change this to something prettier but IronPress is the GP term ensures that Garganacl can check several physical foes such as defensive Primal Groudon, Necrozma-DM, and Extreme Killer Arceus without having to Terastallize, notably preventing itself from becoming setup fodder if a an opponent such as Zygarde uses Substitute.
* The given EV spread avoids a 2HKO from Basculegion-M's 300-Base Power Last Respects after Leftovers recovery, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and special utility Giratina-O's Draco Meteor. This amount of bulk also avoids a 2HKO from Double Dance Primal Groudon's Precipice Blades after Garganacl has Terastallized.
* Tera Water allows Garganacl to more comfortably come into Steel- and Water-types vulnerable to Salt Cure such as Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Water. Tera Fairy makes Garganacl hard wall Marshadow, support Arceus-Dark, and Giratina-O, and grants an immunity to Dragon Tail from foes such as Giratina-O and Zygarde, easing letting Garganacl at preserving preserve Iron Defense boosts.
* Garganacl's main priority is to spread Salt Cure, wearing down the opposing team and granting its allies momentum as the opposing team is put into uncomfortable positions. Mid-game, Garganacl can be used as a check to physical attackers, as its status absorbing status-absorbing capabilities also let it easily come into foes such as Ho-Oh, Alomomola, and Giratina-O. Late-game, (AC) it may try to apply offensive pressure with IronPress to threaten with a sweep, (AC) as special attackers that can threaten Garganacl such as Yveltal and Eternatus are more vulnerable to Garganacl after getting worn down.
* Against offensive team structures, Garganacl can find use against foes it can wall such as Extreme Killer Arceus and Rayquaza thanks to the IronPress combo combination, preventing it from being as easy to overwhelm on the physical side as it forces a switch, but if the momentum is disfavorable for it, Garganacl can still be used to hinder setup sweepers such as Necrozma-DM, Primal Kyogre, and Zacian-C, putting them into on a timer and preventing them from doing much else without sacrificing momentum.
* Garganacl has a positive matchup against the most common entry hazard removers in the metagame, notably including Ho-Oh and Giratina-O, so its presence can actively discourage them from entering the field, meaning that entry hazard setters such as Eternatus, Primal Groudon, and Ferrothorn make formidable allies.
* Garganacl is generally vulnerable to special attackers such as Yveltal, Arceus-Fairy, and Primal Kyogre, so checks to them such as defensive Eternatus and Ferrothorn are notable options to mitigate such this issue. Zacian-C is also a notable partner that can put offensive pressure on Garganacl's checks such as the previously mentioned foes.
* Unless it has already Terastallized, Garganacl is vulnerable to Ground- and Fighting-type foes such as Primal Groudon, Arceus-Ground, and Marshadow (RC). (AP) Pokemon such as Ho-Oh, Giratina-O, and Yveltal act as switch-ins to them for Garganacl to rely on early-game, with Garganacl in return limiting the longevity of their checks such as Chien-Pao and Extreme Killer Arceus.

[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sami.604820/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sunny004.197240/

 

[Bobsican]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/garganacl/national-dex-ubers/