Ist post RMT please

alex12345

Well I know I made this a while back, but then I simply wanted to win some games. Now my objective is to make the leaderboard. I am currently around 1400, but I can't seem to get much higher. So once again I ask for your help to improve my team.

Onto my team:

At a glance
Uxie (Lead, SR support, sleep support, wall)
Breloom (Sub-Seeder)
Suicune (Physical Wall, calm mind)
Salamence (DDer)
Scizor (Physical Sweeper)
Heatran (Special Sweeper)


In-depth:


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Uxie @Leftovers
Relaxed//Levitate
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
-Stealth Rock
-Yawn
-U-turn
-Psychic

Standard support Uxie, but here as a lead. I set up rocks the first turn. Then yawn+u-turn. Either the opposing pokemon falls asleep, letting my set-up either Suicune or Salamence or they switch out letting my u-turn to a suitable counter. Psychic is mainly a filler, but I've had it help me in a couple of battles. I'm probably going to switch it out for T-bolt because my team (if Suicune goes down) usually can't deal with Gyra after one or two DDs.


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Breloom @Toxic Orb
Adamant//Poison Heal
44 HP / 252 Atk / 212 Spe
-Spore
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Stone Edge

I bring this out when I see something that I think would switch out (maybe fearing Seed Bomb). I use spore if Uxie hasn't put anything to sleep then sub punch away. I find this usually KO two or three foes or none at all, depending on how I play it.


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Suicune @Leftovers
Bold//Pressure
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Calm Mind
-Roar

I switch into physical attacker or something asleep and calm mind up. Roars away DDers and other calm minders. Takes hits like a champ.

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Salamence @ Life Orb
Naive
78Atk/252 Spa/178 Spe
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Draco Meteor
-Outrage

Thank-you darkartisan for the idea. I tested this out and started winning a lot. Like darkartisan said lot of people will switch in physical walls only to find them OHKO'd by Draco Meteor. I'm always tempted to bring this out early, but that is usually not a good idea. Suggestions on how to play this are welcome.


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Scizor @Choice Band
Adamant//Technician
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
-U-Turn
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower
-Pursuit

I switched to the choice banded version of this because life orb scizor came up a little short a lot. Anyways I'm not sure about superpower. I don't like the minus attack and defense, but brick break is considerably weaker. Also in my last few battles, I have come across some screens, but that usually isn't a problem.


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Heatran@Choice Scarf
Modest//Flash Fire
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Fire Blast
-Hp Eectric
-Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse

Explosion wasn't working, so I used the specs moveset with scarf for the speed my team desperately needs. Besides that pretty standard not much to say, except I'm considering running the sub version or maybe even taking out Heatran for Infernape.


Any comments and concerns with my team?
As I said before, I desperately want to make the leaderboard. Even if you don't know how to make this team better, please post to tell me if you think this team can make it. If enough people tell me that this team won't work I'll ditch it and start over.
 
How about some natures...and abilities (although anyone could automatically tell what natures your guys have, but for future posts you will need them)

Overheat is a bad idea on Heatran, put Fire Blast
Use Stone Edge over Leech Seed on Breloom otherwise Gyarados and Salamence will switch in on it (as long as something else is asleep) they will set up and sweep.
 
Natures please? Anyways, Superpower hits much better than Brick Break on Bliss, use it. Also, switch to a DDmixemence. This means:

Salamence @ Life Orb
Naive
77 Atk/252 Spa/178 Spe
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Draco Meteor
-Outrage

This will give you an extremely good wall breaker. He deals massive damage, it also gives the opponent a false sense of security when they switch in a special wall and you OHKO it. Draco Meteor/Outrage is your main form of attack against walls, Earthquake for Steels, although you could use fire blast, but this would mean that rhyperior would give you a hard time. If yuo want to hurt Rhyperior, i'd go earthquake. It also hits Kabutops very hard, rain dance is broken as hell e_e

Woah Tiger, is that a Scizor WITHOUT Swords Dance? Have you gone mad? you sacrifice a little bit of power? How about, you take off that shitty Uturn and use something useful. Swords dance with life Orb gets you over 700 attack, a little bit of power?? My god i'm about to have a heart attack. Do you know how to run Scizor? You use the SD set because you want to come in on something you scare and get in the SD, then sweep the crap out of everything. My god.

With Breloom it looks like you're using him just for subseed, why not use Sceptile? If you want Breloom, axe Leech seed and use Seed Bomb, so that you can stop bulky waters. How does Gyarados get 2 DDs on a team with Raikou? If you really need help against it, use Scarfgar, he outspeeds even after a DD, and the opponent is stupid enough to attack, thinking that it isn't scarved. Sorry about that scizor rant, but anyways, hope I helped :D
 
if ya wanna use Scizor to sweep, forego the Life Orb and use Choice Band.
oh and darkartisan, U-Turn is not shitty. Scizor functions great without SD. In fact, SD is just begging for Rotom oven to come in and ruin the party.

Other than that, I too don't understand how Gyara can DD up with a damn Raikou present.

Also, an RMT as your first post imo is not really appropriate, bit whatever. Welcome to Smogon!
 
First, I'd like to thank you all for responding. Second I have to say how ashamed I am for forgetting to put the natures. Ok, so I think I'll replace leech seed with either stone edge or seed bomb on Breloom. Also I might put fire blast over overheat on Heatran. I think I'll need a few more opinions on what to do with scizor but I'm leaning towards swords dance. Finally to Thorns and darkartisan gyarados outspeeds and OHKO's raikou after one dance doesn't it?


Ok so I've gone in and put in all the natures and abilities. Sorry about that and thanks again to everyone who responded.

And darkartisan, I just tried out that Salamence in a few battles. It absolutely owned!! I think I'm going to keep running that:)
 
Thorns said:
if ya wanna use Scizor to sweep, forego the Life Orb and use Choice Band.
oh and darkartisan, U-Turn is not shitty. Scizor functions great without SD. In fact, SD is just begging for Rotom oven to come in and ruin the party.

Which is where Heatran comes in for the free boost....
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I would probably go with Spore over Seed Bomb, mainly because a stall Breloom needs something to take care of priority moves. When that boosted sweeper (I'm thinking of Scizor here) tries to rip a hole in your strategy, Spore does a good job of taking care of it. If Seed Bomb is added, you're taking away from the intial strategy, and that is bad.
 
Honestly, on Breloom leech seed is good for stalling. You can get as many subs as you wan't really...

But don't replace Spore. It is the move that sets Breloom in motion. Also, I wouldn't use Seed Bomb and Focus Punch. They have many of the same resistances and SE's. For example, Crobat utterly walls you. So does any other poison/flying/bug type. Also, they're both SE against Rock. They just don't cover each other well. I'd replace Leech Seed with Stone Edge if anything, hoenstly.
 
I've testest a few games with stone edge over leech seed and its working so thanks to everyone who suggested that.

Martinky24 and Xia: Sorry about that. I guess I did say spore first. Thanks for pointing that out.

Any other suggestions?
 
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