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abomasnow - unstabbed earthquake is terrible in general unless you're afraid of raichu or something. especially with a choice item, cause thats just asking to get set up on. brick break is actually weaker against t-tar than wood hammer, and gets no stab whatsoever, its really beyond terrible. without stab or choice band abamasnow isnt going to be going anywhere with eq or brick break. seed bomb can 2hko ttar, so i'd put that over brick break. i know that would be two grass and two ice moves, but its about all that abamasnow is going to be able to use well, and eq and brick break do absolutely nothing.
mamoswine - looks all right
salamence - if you really do want eq or brick break, just use one of them cause fire is the best type for covering dragon claw's weaknesses, and even with adamant, flamethrower can 2hko skarm i think.
starmie - yeah its pretty fragile so recover doesnt help a hel of a lot
froslass - you have leftovers listed on it, and you talk about sash, and it has destiny bond. either you should use destiny bond or sash, and really neither of them are that awesome anyway. i dont like relying on outspeeding gyarados here but tbolt is good enough probably more useful than shadow ball. you'd probably be better off running sub and spikes over dbond and shadow ball and using leftovers or one of those items that makes moves miss even more than they do already. frosslass can be a real bitch to hit with sub, and then it can set up a round of spikes too which just adds more annoyance, never a bad thing. confuse ray is an interesting option over thunderoblt, but not really recommended.
heatran - nothing much else you can do with it, of course you can switch around the secondary attacks, but it looks all right
i guess if your team is working dont change too much, it looks all right, think if you tweak some of the sets it could be even better though
mamoswine - looks all right
salamence - if you really do want eq or brick break, just use one of them cause fire is the best type for covering dragon claw's weaknesses, and even with adamant, flamethrower can 2hko skarm i think.
starmie - yeah its pretty fragile so recover doesnt help a hel of a lot
froslass - you have leftovers listed on it, and you talk about sash, and it has destiny bond. either you should use destiny bond or sash, and really neither of them are that awesome anyway. i dont like relying on outspeeding gyarados here but tbolt is good enough probably more useful than shadow ball. you'd probably be better off running sub and spikes over dbond and shadow ball and using leftovers or one of those items that makes moves miss even more than they do already. frosslass can be a real bitch to hit with sub, and then it can set up a round of spikes too which just adds more annoyance, never a bad thing. confuse ray is an interesting option over thunderoblt, but not really recommended.
heatran - nothing much else you can do with it, of course you can switch around the secondary attacks, but it looks all right
i guess if your team is working dont change too much, it looks all right, think if you tweak some of the sets it could be even better though
Thnx for the comment.
no problem, just a few last words about abomasnow cause i just have to lol
you have salamence AND starmie so infernape is going absolutely nowhere, and jolteon is probably not going to be sticking in against infernape anyway and if it is you can hit it hard without EQ. i really dont like eq at all here, especialy cause your opponent can really abuse the chocie item when you're stuck
seed bomb is crap too, dont even know why im suggesting it, maybe it's cause brick break is just as bad. i think you actually might find that time when a desperation grasswhistle can save the day, or even a kamikaze leech seed to set up frosslass. for the 4th move its relaly highly situational, but abomasnow should deifnitely have ice punch, wood hammer, and blizzard.
you have salamence AND starmie so infernape is going absolutely nowhere, and jolteon is probably not going to be sticking in against infernape anyway and if it is you can hit it hard without EQ. i really dont like eq at all here, especialy cause your opponent can really abuse the chocie item when you're stuck
seed bomb is crap too, dont even know why im suggesting it, maybe it's cause brick break is just as bad. i think you actually might find that time when a desperation grasswhistle can save the day, or even a kamikaze leech seed to set up frosslass. for the 4th move its relaly highly situational, but abomasnow should deifnitely have ice punch, wood hammer, and blizzard.