JadeX's Platinum Beginner Team

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Azelf @ Focus Sash
Naive Nature
Levitate
252 Speed , 252 SP.Atk , 4 Atk
-U-Turn
-Explosion
-Stealth Rock
-Psychic

Azelf serves as a good lead because of it's speed of setting up Stealth Rock fast enough .
With Focus Sash , it could survive just in time for Explosion but normally , I would just use Psychic to sweep (unless there's potential foe with prior attacks like Scizor's bullet punch etc)
In the end , chose U-Turn over Taunt because I gets to switch Pokemon (saving an Explosion) and with Taunt , Azelf would have been defeated before it gets to explode .

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Togekiss @ Leftover
Calm Nature
Serene Grace
252 HP , 252 Sp.Def , 4 Def
-Air Slash
-Thunderwave
-Roost
-Aura Sphere

Works as a wall for switching in my team .
Its high special defense had proven itself worthy of taking hits .
It usually managed to survived Thunderbolt/Ice Beam and then strikes back with a Thunderwave.
Roost for recovery and then Airslashes ( or Aura Sphere if Air Slash takes too long , like steel pokemon)
Chose Togekiss instead of Jirachi due to it's endurance which Togekiss would do a better job . If not , my pokemon would have been too frail ...

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Starmie @ Choice Scarf
Timid Nature
Nature Cure
252 Speed , 252 SP.Atk , 4 HP
-Rapid Spin
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt

Rapid Spin is to knock off Stealth Rock which might disturbed Azlef (1hp) , Togekisss and Salamence .
Surf is often used as a base attack . Ice Beam is for Dragon/Grass while Thunderbolt is for other water pokemon .
Starmie had a number of element attack that fits the majority of the pokemons it faces .
Choice Scarf is for an insurance against DD Salamence/DD Gyrados which would easily sweep out my whole team .

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Salamence @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
252 Atk , 252 Speed , 4 HP
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Fire Fang
-Earthquake

Typical Dragon Dance and then physical sweep with Outrage .
Fire Fang serves as a Fire Attack for my team as my team lacked Fire power .
A heavy sweeper , however it has a short life after doing an Outrage ( A confused Salamence is really like a Gamble , if it hits itself , I'm dead)
Salamence is sort of the biggest boss in my team .

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature
Steadfast
252 Atk , 252 Speed , 4 HP
-Sword Dance
-Extreme Speed
-Close Combat
-Ice Punch

Lucario serves as a late game sweeper with Extreme Speed as well as a counter against Prior moves user ( mostly Honchkrow with Sucker Punch or Scizor/Metagross with Bullet punch though Extreme speed doesn't deals much damage to them )
Close Combat is it's main attack and Ice Punch deals with Ground/Flying/Dragon .
When boosted with Sword Dance , Lucario had proven itself a very dangerous pokemon .

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Latias @ Choice Scarf
Timid Nature
Levitate
4 HP , 252 Spd , 252 SAtk
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderbolt
- Trick
- Surf

Latias acts as an insurance against my team's biggest threat (for now) , Dragon Dancers .
So with Choice Scarf and max speed EV,IV and Nature , Latias SHOULD be able to outspeed them and revenge them with Draco Meteor .
She is sort of a Starmie no.2 in my team due to Starmie's frailness .

Overall , this team had problem against
-Honchkrow with Sucker Punch
-Rain Dance + Swif Swim
-Dragon Dance + Sweep

So ya , this is my Competitive OU team .
Definitely need some advice for my team .
Deeply appreciated . Thanks
 
Hi,

Not a bad team. First things first, I think your Azelf would fare much better by carrying Taunt over U-turn; because of the prevalence of entry hazards like Stealth Rock and Spikes, it is more important to stop pokemon like Swampert or Roserade from setting up. Also, you should be running a Naive nature because of Explosion.

Next, I notice a problem with Latias, DD Mence, and DD Gyara. Latias outspeeds every pokemon on your team and can set up Calm Mind, while Salamence and Gyarados can outspeed and sweep your team with Dragon Dance, especially if Starmie is weakened. To solve this problem, I suggest giving Starmie Choice Scarf instead of Leftovers to help revenge kill these threats. You are right with the fact that Starmie has great options to use, because Thunderbolt and Ice beam give great coverage and Surf is for STAB, so you should keep those. However, you might want to consider Grass Knot over Rapid Spin to deal with Swampert; it does lots of damage to your team with Ice Beam and Earthquake alone, and you have no way of dealing with it.

Next, Salamence. You would definitely be better off with running Fire Blast instead of Fire Fang. Even though Fire Blast is a special attacking move, with a few EVs, it would do more damage to opposing steel types (mostly physically defensive) such as Skarmory, Forretress, etc because of its higher base power. I recommend a 232 Atk / 252 Spe / 24 SpA spread, along with a Naive nature to boost speed.
 
Thanks frogbandit .
Will make changes to Azlef for the Naive Nature and adding Taunt in .

As for Starmie , I once thought of taking out Thunderbolt for Grass Knot but that didn't worked well with Gyrados . I guess I'm taking Rapid Spin out since I rarely used this attack . Even if I managed to do a Rapid Spin to spin off all the Stealth/Spikes , it usually got KO during the next round -.-"

You're right about DD Gyrados which once swept away my whole team .
I was swept by Honchkrow once too with Sucker Punch =(
 
hi there! not a bad team at all, but i noticed your team got some problems with stall, first of all, scarfed latias is very common in today metagame, and it normaly stop all dragon dance salamences, what i am going to sugest is that you use a mixmence instead of your DD salamence, because mixmence is one of the best stall counters in the game and destroy a lot of unprepared teams:

Salamence @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 42 Atk/216 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Brick Break
- Earthquake

this is a little different from the standard, but fits your team, draco meteor destroy anything that dont resist, and even some weaker steel types, fire blast destroy any steel type not named heatran and that is why earthquake is here, brick break 2hko blissey and got a chance to ko after SR damage and a draco meteor, you could run naive nature instead if you want the extra speed, if you do, max out speed instead and use 240 evs on special atack and 16 in atack, metagross is a good sweeper on his own right, but you already have lucario for later game sweeping so he have little use, i also noticed your team got few problems with scarfed rotom, so what i am going to sugest is that you replace metagross with wish jirachi, not only it add the same resistences of dragon (and other important types) moves, but can pass wishes to your members, rapid spin from starmie also support salamence, who is weak to the flying rocks, this make wish passing a lot more easy, since he wont be taking damage too often has if there was rocks in field, here is the set:

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP/160 Def/32 Spd/76 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
- Iron Head
- U-turn

not only this has awesome synergy with salamence (each one take hits that the other is weak to) but can add useful wish support to your team, next its just a quick note, but add life orb and hydro pump to your starmie allow to ohko scizor and cause a lot more damage overall, you got wish support from jirachi now, so life orb recoil wont be a big problem, next its togekiss, who seem to be a bit unessesary now that jirachi is doing its job, only better, so i sugest you replace for a scarf latias, who can stop enemy dragon dance salamences and dragon dance gyarados(your team is weak to both) on its track, while being a overall good revenge killer, here is the set:

Latias (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderbolt
- Trick
- surf

draco meteor is a powerful stab move that will cause heavy damage to many pokemons, surf kill most ground types and t-bolt destroy bulky waters(and gyarados for the matter), trick is a great move to make fun of blissey, skarmory and other pokemons who just cant be choiced to make its work effective, this latias is the reason i really sugest you run rash on the salamence, because she can take take of almost all pokemons who outspeed rash salamence, scarf latias also outspeed and ohko scarf rotom with draco meteor, who has i said, your team is kind weak to, just watch out for shadow ball, well that is it for now, good luck and i hope that i could be of any help!
 
Updated on team .
thinking of taking Starmie off the team as I have Latias taking over it's role (other than it's rapid spinning part)
Maybe slot in Donphan instead of Starmie ?
I wanted to use Togekiss instead of Jirachi due to it's capability to take hits .

I find Latias a good option for my team .

About Salamence , I was thinking of running a +Speed nature for my DD Mence after doing a Dragon Dance , had more chance of outspeed super-fast pokemon .
Should I ? or should I stick to an offensive one .

Thanks alot Lucalibur .
 
jirachi take hits better then togekiss, for having both higher hp and defense stat and having a way better defensive type (not weak to ice, rock and eletric, 2 of those 3 types are the ones salamence hate the most) and only a somewhat lower special defense stat(covered by higher hp), donphan is somewhat underrated, but your team dont need him that much, starmie is one of the best options because a life orb hydro pump can ohko rotom, the best spin blocker in the OU metagame, remember i said scarf latias is on most OU teams? timid scarf always outspeed jolly +1 salamence, there is also the problem with priority moves(ice shard in particular) and the fact your team will put a lot of pressure on defensive ones if you use mixmence, if you dont want to use mixmence then fine(i still recomend mixmence), but if you are going to run DD mence, always use positive speed nature, also if you DO keep the DD set, i sugest you change the nature for naive and put 24 evs from atack in special atack, then change fire fang for fire blast, fire fang wont ko physical walls like skamory, who can phaze salamence(it survive even after DD) when fire blast make short work of it, i am going to sugest you to use life orb starmie again instead of the scarf set, now that you got latias, the need for ANOTHER choice scarf revenge killer is gone, just change choice scarf for life orb and surf for hydro pump(remember i said it can ohko rotom? surf wont).
 
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