NU Kangaskhan [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: All-out Attacker
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Fake Out
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Scrappy
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kangaskhan proves to be a good wallbreaker in NU. Its ability in Scrappy coupled with STAB Double-Edge allows it to hit the majority of the NU metagame for heavy damage, including common physical walls like Quagsire, Eldegoss, and Wishiwashi. Earthquake complements Double-Edge by nailing Steel-types like Togedemaru and Galarian Stunfisk and avoids adverse contact effects like Rocky Helmet and Aftermath against foes like Garbodor and Skuntank. Kangaskhan is additionally blessed with two priority attacks in Sucker Punch and STAB- boosted Fake Out, which allow it to revenge kill foes and stop sweepers. Fire Punch as an alternative move to Earthquake to hit Ferroseed is also viable. An Adamant nature is preferred for better damage rolls against Galarian Stunfisk but Jolly lets Kangaskhan outspeed foes like Toxicroak and Rotom-S.

Although Kangaskhan can check Ghost-types like Cofagrigus and Gourgeist-S, it's not a reliable form of counterplay to them. So, have a Dark-type teammate like Silvally-Dark, Skuntank, or Alolan Persian to deal with them. Spikes and Stealth Rock users like Froslass and Ferroseed make for apt partners to put pressure on the opposing team and improve its odds of 2HKOing foes like Galarian Stunfisk. Having a Fairy- or Poison-type teammate like Alcremie, Clefairy, or Garbodor to deal with Fighting-types takes pressure off of Kangaskhan; the latter two also provide Stealth Rock and Spikes, respectively. Special attacking pivots like Choice Specs Decidueye and Basculin bring Kangaskhan in to better facilitate its Fake Out use, as well as deal with common walls to Kangaskhan like Weezing and Quagsire.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [Ho3nConfirmed, 231074]]
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first paragraph is kinda verbose/repetitive in that you list a whole bunch of traits of Kanga but don't elaborate on them until several sentences later, which makes it read a bit poorly. it also makes no mention of the big selling point of Kanga, which is Scrappy Double-Edge (it's sort of alluded to but never directly referenced). I'd like to see this stressed as the primary reason to use Kanga in the first paragraph, with mentions of the double priority and coverage Earthquake provides afterwards. probably could also mention Fire Punch as coverage for Ferroseed. Jolly probably doesn't need a mention because it's team dependent beyond team dependent

not really sure what you mean by "it's not always effective" in the second paragraph; if you mean despite that Kanga is still not great at dealing with Ghost-types (which I don't really know if that's the case; it only really struggles with Cofa) then make it clearer that's what you mean. sentences here are also worded a bit weirdly, i.e. the one about Fairy- and Poison-types. it's a bit wordy.

let me know when you've implemented these changes
 
Still sorta misses the mark w.r.t. Scrappy Double-Edge being hard to deal with in general. I'd like the second sentence in this paragraph to be solely about this; you can then follow that up with talking about how Earthquake rounds out coverage by targeting Normal-resistant Pokemon (with examples). I'd also probably do a single sentence addressing both of Fake Out and Sucker Punch and how they a) give Kangaskhan a great matchup against more offensive teams (double priority = easier to stop sweepers from getting out of control) and b) let it revenge kill foes. The Fire Punch sentence is fine.

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First sentence of the second paragraph is still sort of meaningless, i.e. what does "efficient" mean in this context? I also don't think Sandaconda needs its own sentence; it's not exactly something I'd view as a core partner for Kangaskhan.

QC 1/2 when this is done.
 
[SET]
name: All-Out Attacker
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Fake Out
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Scrappy
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kangaskhan proves to be a good bulky wallbreaker in NU (kanga isnt that bulky itself, especially without defensive investment, and if you were calling the walls it breaks bulky thats just implied). Its ability in Scrappy coupled with STAB Double-Edge allows it to hit the majority of the tier for heavy damage including common physical walls like Quagsire, Eldegoss, and Wishiwashi. Earthquake compliments Double-Edge by nailing Steel-types like Togedemaru and Galarian Stunfisk (mention that EQ also avoids adverse contact effects when targeting Garbodor and Skuntank. Not taking RH nor Aftermath is nice for a physical attacker in this tier). In addition to those moves, Kangaskhan is blessed with two priority moves in Sucker Punch and STAB Fake Out which allows it to revenge kill foes as well as stop sweepers from getting out of control. Fire Punch can be used as an alternative move to hit Ferroseed harder than Earthquake.

Although Kangaskhan can hit Ghost-types like Cofagrigus and Gourgeist-S, it's not a reliable form of counterplay to them. So, having a Dark-type teammate like Silvally-Dark, Skuntank, or Alolan Persian to deal with them is appreciated. Having a Spikes and Stealth Rock users like Froslass or Ferroseed for a partners helps put pressure on the opposing team to go with Fake Out + Double-Edge when Kengaskhan revenge kills targets like Decedueye and Lanturn (misses the point of Spikes for kanga. Spikes doesn’t facilitate any reason for kenga to spam its stabs more than any other, but instead compounds chip damage with Fake Out while punishing the switches it forces on the vulnerable targets I listed). Ferroseed can also provide Stealth Rock if need be.(the spikes point i made is true about sr too, see above how I implemented that so this full sentence won’t need to exist) Having a Fairy- or Poison-type teammate like Alcremie, Clefairy, or Garbodor to deal with Fighting-types takes pressure off of Kangaskhan. The latter two can provide Stealth Rock and Spikes, respectively.
(Make a mention of how pivots get it into sweepers safely to facilitate its Fake Out use. Probs want to make a note specifically about special attacking pivots that target its checks like Weezing and Quagsire, as those two walls aren’t mentioned anywhere as checks)

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

I’ll take a quick look before QC 2 just to double check everything. Great work!
 
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[SET]
name: All-Out Attacker
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Fake Out
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Scrappy
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kangaskhan proves to be a good wallbreaker in NU. (Fluff) Its Kangaskhan's ability in Scrappy coupled with STAB Double-Edge allows it to hit the majority of the tier NU metagame for heavy damage, (AC) which including includes common physical walls like Quagsire, Eldegoss, and Wishiwashi. Earthquake compliments Double-Edge by nailing Steel-types like Togedemaru and Galarian Stunfisk. Similarly, Earthquake also avoids physical adverse contact effects like Rocky Helmet and Aftermath against on foes like Rocky Helmet Garbodor and Skuntank, (RC) both of which carry Aftermath. In addition to those moves, (RC) Kangaskhan is additionally blessed with two priority moves attacks in Sucker Punch and a STAB boosted Fake Out which allows allow it to revenge kill foes as well as and stop sweepers from getting out of control. Fire Punch can be used as an alternative move (to what attack, its priority coverage, EQ?) to hit hits Ferroseed harder than Earthquake.

Although Kangaskhan can hit Ghost-types like Cofagrigus and Gourgeist-S, it's not a reliable form of counterplay to them. So, having have a Dark-type teammate like Silvally-Dark, Skuntank, or Alolan Persian to deal with them is appreciated. Having Spikes and Stealth Rock users like Froslass or and Ferroseed make for apt partners helps to put pressure on the opposing team when Kangaskhan revenge kills foes like Decidueye and Lanturn. Having a Fairy- or Poison-type teammate like Alcremie, Clefairy, or and Garbodor to deal with Fighting-types takes pressure off of Kangaskhan.; (RP, added SC) The the latter two can also provide Stealth Rock and Spikes, respectively. Special attacking pivots like Wishiwashi and Choice Specs Decidueye can bring Kangaskhan in to better facilitate its Fake Out use, (AC) as well as deal with common walls to Kangaskhan like Weezing and Quagsire.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [username2, userid2]] (add the second QC ID)
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
 
Ho3nConfirm3d said:
AM GP check for fun. Implement what you want :)
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[SET]
name: All-Out Attacker
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Fake Out
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Scrappy
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kangaskhan proves to be a good wallbreaker in NU. (Fluff) Its Kangaskhan's ability in Scrappy coupled with STAB Double-Edge allows it to hit the majority of the tier NU metagame for heavy damage, (AC) which including includes common physical walls like Quagsire, Eldegoss, and Wishiwashi. Earthquake compliments Double-Edge by nailing Steel-types like Togedemaru and Galarian Stunfisk. Similarly, Earthquake also avoids physical adverse contact effects like Rocky Helmet and Aftermath against on foes like Rocky Helmet Garbodor and Skuntank, (RC) both of which carry Aftermath. In addition to those moves, (RC) Kangaskhan is additionally blessed with two priority moves attacks in Sucker Punch and a STAB boosted Fake Out which allows allow it to revenge kill foes as well as and stop sweepers from getting out of control. Fire Punch can be used as an alternative move (to what attack, its priority coverage, EQ?) to hit hits Ferroseed harder than Earthquake.

Although Kangaskhan can hit Ghost-types like Cofagrigus and Gourgeist-S, it's not a reliable form of counterplay to them. So, having have a Dark-type teammate like Silvally-Dark, Skuntank, or Alolan Persian to deal with them is appreciated. Having Spikes and Stealth Rock users like Froslass or and Ferroseed make for apt partners helps to put pressure on the opposing team when Kangaskhan revenge kills foes like Decidueye and Lanturn. Having a Fairy- or Poison-type teammate like Alcremie, Clefairy, or and Garbodor to deal with Fighting-types takes pressure off of Kangaskhan.; (RP, added SC) The the latter two can also provide Stealth Rock and Spikes, respectively. Special attacking pivots like Wishiwashi and Choice Specs Decidueye can bring Kangaskhan in to better facilitate its Fake Out use, (AC) as well as deal with common walls to Kangaskhan like Weezing and Quagsire.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [username2, userid2]] (add the second QC ID)
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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Implemented, thanks!
 
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[SET]
name: All-Out Attacker All-out Attacker
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Fake Out
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Scrappy
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kangaskhan proves to be a good wallbreaker in NU. Its ability in Scrappy coupled with STAB Double-Edge allows it to hit the majority of the NU metagame for heavy damage, including common physical walls like Quagsire, Eldegoss, and Wishiwashi. Earthquake compliments complements Double-Edge by nailing Steel-types like Togedemaru and Galarian Stunfisk. Similarly, Earthquake also and avoids adverse contact effects like Rocky Helmet and Aftermath against foes like Garbodor and Skuntank. Kangaskhan is additionally blessed with two priority attacks in Sucker Punch and a STAB-boosted(AH) Fake Out,(AC) which allow it to revenge kill foes and stop sweepers. Fire Punch as an alternative move to Earthquake or Sucker Punch hits to hit Ferroseed harder than Earthquake is also viable. (big purpose of Kangaskhan is double priority, so I don't really see a reason to drop it.) An Adamant nature is preferred for better damage rolls against Galarian Stunfisk, but Jolly lets Kangaskhan outspeed foes like Toxicroak and Rotom-S. (I think I've seen enough people hype Jolly to add it back, so sure.)

Although Kangaskhan can hit check (imo this is better verb choice) Ghost-types like Cofagrigus and Gourgeist-S, it's not a reliable form of counterplay to them. So, have a Dark-type teammate like Silvally-Dark, Skuntank, or Alolan Persian to deal with them. Spikes and Stealth Rock users like Froslass and Ferroseed make for apt partners to put pressure on the opposing team when Kangaskhan revenge kills foes like Decidueye and Lanturn and improve its odds of 2HKOing foes like Galarian Stunfisk. Having a Fairy- or Poison-type teammate like Alcremie, Clefairy, and or Garbodor to deal with Fighting-types takes pressure off of Kangaskhan; the latter two also provide Stealth Rock and Spikes, respectively. Special attacking pivots like Wishiwashi and Choice Specs Decidueye and Basculin (Wishiwashi is more of a mixed attacker or physical attacker tbh) bring Kangaskhan in to better facilitate its Fake Out use, as well as deal with common walls to Kangaskhan like Weezing and Quagsire.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [Ho3nConfirmed, 231074]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
gp 1/1 when done
 
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