Kecleon (QC 3/3)

Molk

Molk

Godlike Usmash
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[Overview]



  • i wall exeggutor
  • i have great special defense
  • i have a unique ability that changes my type when hit
  • i do well against blizzspam
  • i get recover
  • i have a wide movepool
  • i can subpunch
  • my ability gets in the way sometimes
  • my physical defense isnt the best
  • without max attack i hit like a five year old
[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Recover
move 3: Return / Knock Off
move 4: Thunder Wave / Aqua Tail
item: Leftovers
ability: Color Change
nature: Careful
evs: 252 Hp / 4 Def / 252 Spdef


[SET COMMENTS]

  • extremely frustrating to take down from the special side
  • can set up stealth rock for your team
  • Thunder wave allows Kecleon to outspeed stuff
  • recover gives kecleon more longetivity
  • Return is Kecleon's strongest attack
  • Aqua tail gives kecleon good coverage
  • knock off rids the opponent of their item, crippling them
  • does well against choiced special attackers, especially exeggutor
  • can take on blizzspam well with a temporary hail immunity and the ability to survive specs glaceon blizzard
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

  • Works well with physical walls such as weezing that can take fighting attacks (before color change has activated)
  • Toxic is an option in the first slot, to stall out special attackers
  • Foul play can be used, but most of its targets have low attack
  • Sucker punch is an option
  • pursuit is a good idea
[SET]
name: SubPunch
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Focus Punch
move 3: Sucker Punch
move 4: Recover / Thunder Wave
item: Leftovers
ability: Color Change
nature: Adamant
evs: 236 Hp / 252 Atk / 20 Def


[SET COMMENTS]

  • hits like a man (unlike the support set)
  • Substitute eases prediction/allows for a safe recover and allows you to fire off a focus punch
  • Sucker punch for dat priority
  • payback to hot substituting ghosts
  • recover and T-wave make hi different than kangaskhan
  • recover works in tandem with sub to keep kecleon healthy =D
  • thunder wave cripples a switch-in and allows kecleon to set up a substitute on it
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

  • Hazards are welcome, as kecleon doesnt hit THAT hard
  • evs reach a lefties #
  • if running sucker punch, use a pursuit user for bannete/misdreavus
  • foul play is an option, but its targets have low attack anyway
  • return can be used in the last slot but then kangaskhan>kecleon
  • Toxic spikes work well with this set, scolipede and garbodor can provide this support
  • still handles blizzspam pretty well, but slowking makes a good partner for dem glaceon
[SET]
name: Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Recover
move 3: Return
move 4: Aqua Tail / Stealth Rock
item: Leftovers
ability: Color Change
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 Hp / 4 Def / 252 Spdef
ivs: 0 spe


[SET COMMENTS]

  • horrible speed, good for trick room
  • with trick room and recover it can keep setting up trick romo the entire match
  • Return gives kecleon an attack, no longer taunt bait
  • aqua tail is for dem rhydon
  • simple set
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

  • works well with Slowking, who can also set up trick room
  • RAMPARDOS SMASH
  • can run a more offensive ev spread
  • dont use t-wave
  • kecleon hits like a baby compared to its accomplices
[Other Options]

  • Magic Coat
  • Choice Band
  • Trick
  • Nasty Plot
  • Fake Out Lead
  • Shadow sneak
  • counter
    Snatch
[Checks and Counters]

  • Sawk
  • Throh
    Gurdurr
  • physical attacking pokemon that hit kecleon super effectively after changing its type
  • powerful physical attacks
  • hits like a little girl (except subpunch)
  • faster pokemon with substitute
  • ghost-types with non attacking moves stall out subpunch.
 
i think stealth rock should be slashed over aqua tail on the second slot. yeah i know that aqua tail hits ground/rock-types hard, but aside from that its pretty useless (and its not like such pokemon cant be easily taken out by a water-type teammate). stealth rock actually allows kecleon to support the team further, so i think it's a bit more useful than aqua tail.
 
Snorlaxe said:
i think stealth rock should be slashed over aqua tail on the second slot. yeah i know that aqua tail hits ground/rock-types hard, but aside from that its pretty useless (and its not like such pokemon cant be easily taken out by a water-type teammate). stealth rock actually allows kecleon to support the team further, so i think it's a bit more useful than aqua tail.
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slashed on trick room, ill also slash it on the main set
 
The way the main set looks now, it's a bit too crowded. No expert here but

move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Recover
move 3: Return / Knock Off
move 4: Thunder Wave / Aqua Tail

looks a lot better? It's pretty much the same thing. I'd even go as far as to just mention knock off on the ac. Maybe switch around the attack order on the 4th slot, but I'll let a qc member decide on that.
 
Yeah, looks fine. Knock Off is probably more AC material though.

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Trick Room set should have a Sassy nature if you're going to the trouble of running 0 Speed IVs.
 
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