Rejected Knowing about Private Rooms

[Dorron]

Private rooms need enough people to become public, but if people don't know about private rooms, it will be very difficult for them to become public. I suggest a thread or something similar where we can see every private room, only with the consent of that room's staff.

Referring to those rooms

 

[Mubs]

Bumping in support as a private room RO, and I don't believe this requires code.

 

[drampa's grandpa]

If private rooms are visible ones without sufficiently active staff will be extremely prone to spam and other rule-breaking.

Rooms without staff guiding the chat when necessary can veer wildly off-topic and this is like blood in the water for trolls.

I think this would work with vetting of the room and roomstaff but at that point... I'm not sure how much better or different than what we have now it would be.

Note that I'm saying all this both as a public room owner and the former owner of a room that went from groupchat -> public subroom (through the steps in between).

 

[Tmi489]

idk how many people are checking tabs but it would still help with popularity ig
i dont see how this could be particularly bad
they would still need enough outside motivation for people to join the room

If private rooms are visible ones without sufficiently active staff will be extremely prone to spam and other rule-breaking.

then they can just stay private, and punish offenders

 

[kiru]

arent private rooms supposed to be "private" ...like i can understand subrooms that rooms like Monotype hosts like Monotype Events..but doesnt that defeats the purpose in even having them if they all become public- im sure gstaff has a private room aswell and other rooms for etc reasons but..

idk how many people are checking tabs but it would still help with popularity ig
i dont see how this could be particularly bad
they would still need enough outside motivation for people to join the room

then they can just stay private, and punish offenders

and yeah /publicroom exists but-..

 

[The Official Glyx]

arent private rooms supposed to be "private" ...like i can understand subrooms that rooms like Monotype hosts like Monotype Events..but doesnt that defeats the purpose in even having them if they all become public- im sure gstaff has a private room aswell and other rooms for etc reasons but..

Some rooms are "private" because they're just small and starting up, rather than necessarily desiring that their existence remain unknown or an "inside" thing.

I feel that a list through smogon would be obscure enough for most people with malicious intent to not know that these private rooms even exist, while still providing opportunity for the people who know where to look (and likely have better capacity to contribute as a result) to find something that piques their interest that they may not have otherwise known about.

 

[Gleeboop]

I speak with 0 experience, but... the thing is... regular rooms are sometimes left without staff for a while as well, they usually don't get a lot of trolls either during those points, and if they do, someone can always /report them. Aditionally, this helps topic rooms get going. And if a room is really worried about trolls, they can possibly just ask to not be listed.

 

[Expulso]

I speak with 0 experience, but... the thing is... regular rooms are sometimes left without staff for a while as well, they usually don't get a lot of trolls either during those points, and if they do, someone can always /report them. Aditionally, this helps topic rooms get going. And if a room is really worried about trolls, they can possibly just ask to not be listed.

Just to elaborate on this -- I'm assuming from the OP that they intend for inclusion on the list of private rooms to be opt-in (where a room is only on the list if it tells the ppl making it that it wants to be) rather than opt-out (where every room is going to be on the list unless they specifically ask not to be). This means that the list would only display rooms that clearly want to attract visitors, because they said yes to being publicly listed.

If implemented in this fashion, this seems like an awesome idea.

 

[Dorron]

If private rooms are visible ones without sufficiently active staff will be extremely prone to spam and other rule-breaking.

This is exactly why I suggested they should be added to the list only if the staff of the room wants

 

[Gleeboop]

Just to elaborate on this -- I'm assuming from the OP that they intend for inclusion on the list of private rooms to be opt-in (where a room is only on the list if it tells the ppl making it that it wants to be) rather than opt-out (where every room is going to be on the list unless they specifically ask not to be). This means that the list would only display rooms that clearly want to attract visitors, because they said yes to being publicly listed.

If implemented in this fashion, this seems like an awesome idea.

Yes, ty.
The other thing: in what forum will this list be in?

 

[Aeonic]

The vast majority of private rooms are not aiming to become public - they're hangout rooms owned by global staff or specific communities (an Italian tournament community as an example).

There are some hidden rooms that do have potential to become public, but they are hidden deliberately to reduce traffic to them for various reasons. This could be because the room is lacking staff or strong leadership and is being restructured, is still very new and establishing itself, is a very niche language that doesn't have enough staff to be public, etc. The hidden rooms that can become public in the future are often promoted to the public via the News tab, promotions in other public rooms (for example the Old Shark room for old gen hackmons gets plenty of acknowledgement in the Other Metas room), or word-of-mouth in relevant communities (if you speak Turkish, you'll probably end up in the Turkish room).

Upper Staff sees no reason to change this system at the moment, so I'm going ahead and denying this suggestion.