Latitran HO team (peaked 1800)

Latitran Core



Introduction:
Hi Smogon, this is my second serious RMT here, my first one being an old VGC team, Team Mamoswine. the reason I bring it up even though you play completely different in VGC and 6v6 the similarities between these two teams could be seen.I coulda waited till i reached at least 2000 with this but i Honestly could not wait to put this up so i rushed to 1800 as quick as possible seeing as that was a decent rank to put this up at. I am not going to make that long of an introduction because of how I am going to present this RMT, so here is the team.

Team Progression
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obviously this team started with how Latios and Heatran cover each other so well so i went off of that as my core. Now this core needed a pokemon that can kill most other Latios because thats really the only real threat to this
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I decided to go with Mamoswine for the soul purpose of killing Dragons, and also I had tons of experience with Scarf Mamo. Now that i have a main my main physical poke and I have a Latios as my Special Hitter, I need a wall breaker and a poke that can para other pokes for these two to run through everything.
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I saw that as the perfect opportunity to have Thundurus on my team as he was an amazing poke against electric types as well he would fit this team well. Now I just needed two pokes that would support this team decently well.
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Tyranitar supports now three other pokes with its sandstorm ability and its an amazing DDancer as well, then landorus is just great at being an intimimon. Now looking at this team i had a humongous water weakness i had to pay attention to.
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This was the biggest change in the team so far as three members got switched out. To add more bulk against water I decided to add Keldeo and Latias to the mix. Conkeldurr was a pokemon also to replace Landorus which i had to say handled the same situations as Landorus but in a better fashion. Now I believed the team was good but after about a little Laddering Keldeo just was not doing it's job.

Final Stage of Team:
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Back View:
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An In-Depth Look:
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Thundurus
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Ability: Prankster
EVs: 8 HP / 244 SAtk / 8 SDef / 248 Spd
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
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- Hidden Power [Ice]
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- Thunderbolt
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- Thunder Wave
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Thundurus has always been a threat in the meta that is why I initially picked him. But in all honestly right now I might just try and find a replacement for him because of my Scizor and water weakness that I seem to constantly have, but let’s get into his actually set. Thundurus was initially there as a T-waver but he soon became a wall breaker and not a slow your opponents pokemon down support poke. His ev spread his pretty standard with the amount of speed being able to outspeed max speed 110 pokes (Latias/Latios) and allowing me not to waste evs but invest them in bulk. 244 SpAtk does not make any difference in the KOing spectrum of things so I decided to invest that in bulk to. 8 HP and 8 SpDef allow him to live something important I just completely forgot what it was, I apologize for that. Focus blast and HP ice are there for coverage but with the decrease of HP ice’s power it is really only useful against Dragonite, Garchomp, and Salamence, not so much other dragons anymore.

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Charizard
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Ability: Solar Power
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 52 HP / 204 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
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- Ancient Power
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- Roost
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- Solar Beam
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Charizard Y was put here because of the water weakness as Described earlier, but now is one of my main sweepers of the team with its enourmous power and great coverage moves. 52 evs in HP allow it to survive multiple hits in the Sun against water, while 252 speed allow it to outspeed max speed rotom-w and the rest just went into SpAtk. Solar Beam and Fire Blast are there for great coverage over most pokemon used in today’s OU tier, while Ancient Power takes care of the only two pokes being able to take the grass/fire combo, being Talonflame and other Charizard Ys. Talonflame gets OHKOed by it and ChariYard has an 81.3% chance to (never can make it a guaranteed OHKO except when you are playing with level 50s aka VGC).

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Heatran
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Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 56 HP / 252 SAtk / 200 SDef
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
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- Lava Plume
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- Flash Cannon
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- Hidden Power [Ice]
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Heatran is the one part of the Latitran core and this supports my team by being a check to Talonflame and to Genesect, which can be two humungous threats to this team otherwise. As you can see this pokemon in my core is to set up Stealth Rocks so my team has an easier time sweeping. With the Air Ballon Heatran can avoid an EQ from Garchomp and put a dent into it with HP ice. I also put Flash Cannon on this guy to deal with opposing fairy types with my team not having coverage over that other wise and as well no other move really fit this spot better. Lava Plume is there for the STAB factor as well as the 30% chance to burn.

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Latias
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Ability: Levitate
EVs: 204 HP / 112 SAtk / 192 Spd
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
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- Psyshock
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- Healing Wish
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- Defog
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This pokemon is just my favorite pokemon of all time and the playability that this guy has is just amazing. Latias can tank so much hits with 204 HP investment not needing much more to take on most attacks it is 2x weak to. With 192 spe evs and the timid nature it can outspeed pokemon of base 102 i.e. Garchomp and the rest I decided to put in to SpAtk with that Latias can OHKO Garchomp with a draco and put a major dent in most other pokemon. Draco is there for a special stab move and Psyshock is there to hit those special walls. Healing wish is an interesting move I took off of another RMT (would give credit if I remembered which RMT it was) but it basically gives another chance for any of my sweepers to well………… kill things once again causing more problems to my opponent. Then with the buff to Defog I no longer need a pokemon solely for getting rid of my glaring SR weakness with all three of my pokes taking 25%+ damage from rocks it can become a major pain, but now I can implement a “spinner” into my core.

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Conkeldurr
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Ability: Iron Fist
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
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- Ice Punch
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- Mach Punch
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- Knock Off
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This spot I toyed around with so much but Conkeldurr finally stuck out as a check to most things I am afraid of. The assault vest and the added bulk to HP and SpDef I can survive most hits from a Specs Draco Latios to almost any non-boosted SpAtk. Mach Punch and Drain Punch are standard moves on Conkeldurr and with Iron Fist it just gets boosted even more. But that is the one thing that I am contemplating about this pokemon how useful is Iron Fist because there were so many situations where I predicted a Status inflicting move like WoW to come and without Heatran I really do not have a counter to something like that. This is one of the things I was going to ask if Iron Fist makes that much of a Difference at the end of the day. Continuing with the rest of the move set Ice Punch is there to counter opposing dragons and then Knock off….. what can I not say about this move it is one of the most useful moves on conkeldurr able to counter pokemon like Aigeslash and Latios with this it hits the Variety of pokemon Conkeldurr normally cannot it for much, most notably ghost types

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Mamoswine
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Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature

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- Icicle Spear
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- Earthquake
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- Stone Edge
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Mamoswine is the pokemon I copied out of my old VGC team with its humungous coverage over every type I feared it was an obvious choice. With having this ev spread and the choice scarf he is able to out speed Timid 252 speed Greninja which is the fastest pokemon that does not resist Mamoswines coverage moves. Talonflame is no threat with most running no speed investment and everything else gets OHKO by earthquake. Icicle Spear is there as a way to break Multiscale and Icicle Crash is just a reliable ice move you should always have. 112 HP allows it to turn many 2Hkos to 3Hkos and 172 Atk is just there for raw power.



Conclusion:
This team is obviously not perfect so if you have any suggestions please give them. This team as any semi-HO team needs is predictions you always need to know what your opponent is about to do and that I feel like is why I had decent success with this team. Thank you for reading my RMT for this team and I hope you can all give me suggestions to improve this team in the future.
-Choobie
Importable for the team:
Thundurus @ Expert Belt
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 8 HP / 244 SAtk / 8 SDef / 248 Spd
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave

Charizard (F) @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Solar Power
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 48 HP / 204 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Ancient Power
- Roost
- Solar Beam

Latias @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 204 HP / 112 SAtk / 192 Spd
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Healing Wish
- Defog

Heatran (F) @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 56 HP / 252 SAtk / 200 SDef
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Mamoswine (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Icicle Spear
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Conkeldurr (F) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Iron Fist
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- Mach Punch
- Knock Off

 
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Hey there, a few small changes.

Heatran @ Air Balloon
Flash Fire | Modest | 56 HP / 252 SAtk / 200 Spd
Fire Blast | Earth Power | HP [Ice] | Stealth Rock/Flash Cannon

This set allows you to more reliably counter ground types such as Mamoswine, Garchomp as well as opposing Heatran. As your team is quite offensive, such a defensive Heatran will more often than not kill your momentum; this lets you get into things such as Mamoswine on the immunity and use the time to lay down Stealth Rocks or attack. Flash Cannon is better for killing Mamoswine because of Thick Fat; however, most of the time SR should prove more effective. HP Ice for a good answer for Dragons in general, since most possess Dragon/Fire, Dragon/Ground or all three, and Heatran can take any hit. With the HP Evs, it can comfortably live through a +1 Haxorus Outrage after SR and finish it off with Flash Cannon / HP Ice.

Next, try Psyshock on Latias over Psychic. DM is already a nuke of a special move, where Psyshock can help kill things such as specially defensive Clefable and Blissey easier.

Finally, Thunder Wave over Taunt and Leftovers / Expert Belt over Life Orb. With Prankster Thunder Wave, Thundurus can serve as insurance against threatening speed-boosting sweepers such as Volcarona and Haxorus.

Hope I helped!
 
Hey there, a few small changes.

Heatran @ Air Balloon
Flash Fire | Modest | 56 HP / 252 SAtk / 200 Spd
Fire Blast | Earth Power | HP [Ice] | Stealth Rock/Flash Cannon

This set allows you to more reliably counter ground types such as Mamoswine, Garchomp as well as opposing Heatran. As your team is quite offensive, such a defensive Heatran will more often than not kill your momentum; this lets you get into things such as Mamoswine on the immunity and use the time to lay down Stealth Rocks or attack. Flash Cannon is better for killing Mamoswine because of Thick Fat; however, most of the time SR should prove more effective. HP Ice for a good answer for Dragons in general, since most possess Dragon/Fire, Dragon/Ground or all three, and Heatran can take any hit. With the HP Evs, it can comfortably live through a +1 Haxorus Outrage after SR and finish it off with Flash Cannon / HP Ice.

Next, try Psyshock on Latias over Psychic. DM is already a nuke of a special move, where Psyshock can help kill things such as specially defensive Clefable and Blissey easier.

Finally, Thunder Wave over Taunt and Leftovers / Expert Belt over Life Orb. With Prankster Thunder Wave, Thundurus can serve as insurance against threatening speed-boosting sweepers such as Volcarona and Haxorus.

Hope I helped!
This actually did help a lot I have changed Heatran now and Latias as well. After reading your comment I decided to give T-Wave Thundurus another try and it really did pay off, I have no clue what changed but it honestly got better. But i just have a question on the 200 Spd for Heatran, I really do not see any benefit in that It does not outspeed any threats or any pokemon commonly seen.
 
I don't think the Mamoswine can outspeed +1 Jolly Dragonite or even an Adamant one with Max speed EVs.

The purpose of using a Scarf is to outspeed key threats, and at least tying with boosted sweepers is desirable. Max speed EVs with Jolly allows you to outspeed +1 Adamant Gyarados.
 
I don't think the Mamoswine can outspeed +1 Jolly Dragonite or even an Adamant one with Max speed EVs.

The purpose of using a Scarf is to outspeed key threats, and at least tying with boosted sweepers is desirable. Max speed EVs with Jolly allows you to outspeed +1 Adamant Gyarados.
I see what you are saying and I have switched the EV spread for Mamoswine to be able to outspeed those two threats
 
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