NU Lilligant [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Quiver Dance
move 1: Quiver Dance
move 2: Petal Dance
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Pollen Puff / Substitute
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Lilligant carves a niche for itself in NU as a Quiver Dance user, but it is limited in coverage options as well as being frail. It also finds limited setup opportunities against Poison-types like Garbodor and Sap Sipper Pokemon like Miltank and Bouffalant. Thanks to STAB Petal Dance combined with its ability in Own Tempo, Lilligant can deal consistent, massive damage even to common special walls like Clefairy and Galarian Stunfisk after one Quiver Dance. Pollen Puff is a decent coverage move that can nail opposing Grass-types like Flapple, Eldegoss, and Gourgeist-S. Nature Power works as an alternative to Pollen Puff to bypass Poison-types more effectively. Sleep Powder rounds out the moveset by crippling would-be threats to Lilligant like Fire- and Poison-types like Rapidash and Garbodor. Substitute can be used to gain the upper hand on common switch-ins to Lilligant like Skuntank and Toxicroak, but Lilligant loses out on Pollen Puff and finds it harder to bypass checks like Ferroseed and Eldegoss.

Lilligant will want to mainly sweep with Petal Dance due to its high power and locking effect, and since Lilligant has a hard time with Poison-types, having a teammate like Sandaconda or Galarian Stunfisk to deal with them is appreciated. Both of them can also offer Stealth Rock support to chip down foes and make Lilligant's job easier. A partner like Wishiwashi or Lanturn makes for a good teammate, since Fire- and Ice-types are also problematic for Lilligant. Both of these options can also act as a slow pivot to bring in Lilligant safely. Steel-types like Ferroseed, Magneton, and Choice Scarf Togedemaru are also an issue, since they can eat up any of Lilligant's moves as well as revenge kill it or use the opportunity to set Spikes. Because of this, partners like Toxicroak, Choice Scarf Sawk, and Rapidash can help take pressure off of Lilligant and wear them down. The former two can also nail Sap Sipper Miltank, which easily switches into Lilligant.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [Ho3nConfirm3d, 231074]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic, 240732]]
 
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Oathkeepre said:
Thanks to STAB Petal Dance combined with its Own Tempo ability, Lilligant can deal massive damage even to common special walls like Clefairy and Galarian Stunfisk.
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Maybe would help to say "consistent, massive damage" here to make the ability tie in a bit more? I'd also specify that it's after a boost that Lilligant is doing solid damage to these Pokemon, because otherwise Clefairy could stall Lilligant out with Soft-Boiled recovery and potential Toxic poison.

Oathkeepre said:
Substitute can be used to gain the upper hand on common switch-ins to Lilligant like Skuntank and Toxicroak. Nature Power works as an alternative to Pollen Puff to bypass Poison-types more effectively.
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I'd mention the drawback of Substitute being your coverage is severely hampered; it's much harder to bypass checks like Ferroseed and Eldegoss without Pollen Puff. I'd also move the sentence about Nature Power to be behind the one about Pollen Puff.

Oathkeepre said:
The latter can deal with Rotom-S very well since it walls Lilligant.
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It takes well over half from +1 Life Orb Petal Dance and doesn't do all too much with Air Slash in return.

Oathkeepre said:
Steel-types like Ferroseed, Silvally-Steel, and Choice Scarf Togedemaru are also an issue since they can eat up any of Lilligant's moves.
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They also can pretty easily revenge kill it (or, in Ferroseed's case, set Spikes against it).

QC 1/2 when done.
 
[SET]
name: Quiver Dance
move 1: Quiver Dance
move 2: Petal Dance
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Pollen Puff / Substitute
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Lilligant carves a niche for itself in NU as a Quiver Dance user, but is limited in.. (Liligent is a C rank mon, and should clarify from the get-go why it has issues sweeping. I'd mention its frailty and limited coverage for breaking past Poison-types and Sap Sipper Miltank and Boufflant). Thanks to STAB Petal Dance combined with its Own Tempo ability, Lilligant can deal consistent, massive damage even to common special walls like Clefairy and Galarian Stunfisk after one Quiver Dance. Pollen Puff is a decent coverage move that can nail opposing Grass-types like Flapple, Eldegoss, and Gourgeist-S. Nature Power works as an alternative to Pollen Puff to bypass Poison-types more effectively. Sleep Powder rounds out the moveset by crippling would-be threats to Lilligant like Fire- and Poison-types like Rapidash and Garbodor. Substitute can be used to gain the upper hand on common switch-ins to Lilligant like Skuntank and Toxicroak, but Lilligant loses out on Pollen Puff and makes it harder to bypass checks like Ferroseed and Eldegoss.

(Add a blanket statement here proclaiming how Liligent wants to mainly sweep with Petal Dance to its high power and locking effect, and needs team support that gets rid of Grass checks. This is main purpose of Liligent as a wincon, as otherwise it fails as sweeper, being too easily revenge killed when locked into Petal Dance) Since Lilligant has a hard time with Poison-types, having a teammate like Sandaconda or Galarian Stunfisk to deal with them is appreciated. Both of them can offer Stealth Rock support to chip down foes and make Lilligant's job easier. A partner like Wishiwashi or Lanturn makes for a good teammate since Fire- and Ice-types are also problematic for Lilligant. Both of these options can act as a slow pivot to bring in Lilligant safely. Steel-types like Ferroseed, Magneton, and Choice Scarf Togedemaru are also an issue since they can eat up any of Lilligant's moves as well as revenge kill or set up Spikes. Because of this, partners like Toxicroak, Choice Scarf Sawk, and Silvally-Fire Rapidash (relevancy) can help take pressure off of Lilligant and wear them down. The former two can also nail Sap Sipper Miltank, which easily switches into Lilligant.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

QC 2/2 great work! Only had a few things as far as clarifying what Liligent is to NU as a whole, otherwise looked great.
 
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[SET]
name: Quiver Dance
move 1: Quiver Dance
move 2: Petal Dance
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Pollen Puff / Substitute
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Lilligant carves a niche for itself in NU as a Quiver Dance user, but it is limited in coverage options as well as being frail. It also finds limited setup opportunities around against Poison-types like Garbodor and Sap Sipper Pokemon like Miltank and Bouffalant. Thanks to STAB Petal Dance combined with its Own Tempo ability, Lilligant can deal consistent, massive damage even to common special walls like Clefairy and Galarian Stunfisk after one Quiver Dance. Pollen Puff is a decent coverage move that can nail opposing Grass-types like Flapple, Eldegoss, and Gourgeist-S. Nature Power works as an alternative to Pollen Puff to bypass Poison-types more effectively. Sleep Powder rounds out the moveset by crippling would-be threats to Lilligant like Fire- and Poison-types like Rapidash and Garbodor. Substitute can be used to gain the upper hand on common switch-ins to Lilligant like Skuntank and Toxicroak, but Lilligant loses out on Pollen Puff and makes finds it harder to bypass checks like Ferroseed and Eldegoss.

Lilligant will want to mainly sweep with Petal Dance due to its high power and locking effect, and since Lilligant has a hard time with Poison-types, having a teammate like Sandaconda or Galarian Stunfisk to deal with them is appreciated. Both of them can offer Stealth Rock support to chip down foes and make Lilligant's job easier. A partner like Wishiwashi or Lanturn makes for a good teammate,(AC) since Fire- and Ice-types are also problematic for Lilligant. Both of these options can act as a slow pivot to bring in Lilligant safely. Steel-types like Ferroseed, Magneton, and Choice Scarf Togedemaru are also an issue,(AC) since they can eat up any of Lilligant's moves as well as revenge kill it or set up Spikes. Because of this, partners like Toxicroak, Choice Scarf Sawk, and Rapidash can help take pressure off of Lilligant and wear them down. The former two can also nail Sap Sipper Miltank, which easily switches into Lilligant.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [Ho3nConfirm3d, 231074]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
 
pretty much all of the stuff here is really just subjective changes, good work
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[SET]
name: Quiver Dance
move 1: Quiver Dance
move 2: Petal Dance
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Pollen Puff / Substitute
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Lilligant carves a niche for itself in NU as a Quiver Dance user, but it is limited in coverage options as well as being frail. It also finds limited setup opportunities against Poison-types like Garbodor and Sap Sipper Pokemon like Miltank and Bouffalant. Thanks to STAB Petal Dance combined with its ability in Own Tempo ability, Lilligant can deal consistent, massive damage even to common special walls like Clefairy and Galarian Stunfisk after one Quiver Dance. Pollen Puff is a decent coverage move that can nail opposing Grass-types like Flapple, Eldegoss, and Gourgeist-S. Nature Power works as an alternative to Pollen Puff to bypass Poison-types more effectively. Sleep Powder rounds out the moveset by crippling would-be threats to Lilligant like Fire- and Poison-types like Rapidash and Garbodor. Substitute can be used to gain the upper hand on common switch-ins to Lilligant like Skuntank and Toxicroak, but Lilligant loses out on Pollen Puff and finds it harder to bypass checks like Ferroseed and Eldegoss.

Lilligant will want to mainly sweep with Petal Dance due to its high power and locking effect, and since Lilligant has a hard time with Poison-types, having a teammate like Sandaconda or Galarian Stunfisk to deal with them is appreciated. Both of them can also offer Stealth Rock support to chip down foes and make Lilligant's job easier. A partner like Wishiwashi or Lanturn makes for a good teammate, since Fire- and Ice-types are also problematic for Lilligant. Both of these options can also act as a slow pivot to bring in Lilligant safely. Steel-types like Ferroseed, Magneton, and Choice Scarf Togedemaru are also an issue, since they can eat up any of Lilligant's moves as well as revenge kill it or use the opportunity to set up Spikes. Because of this, partners like Toxicroak, Choice Scarf Sawk, and Rapidash can help take pressure off of Lilligant and wear them down. The former two can also nail Sap Sipper Miltank, which easily switches into Lilligant.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oathkeepre, 83980]]
- Quality checked by: [[Rabia, 336073], [Ho3nConfirm3d, 231074]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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