Little Idea

[Soulfly]

Hi all , me again.

I've been playing with a small idea for a while now but waited for the votings to be done for sure.
My idea of baton passing mean look so i can switch to any pokemon to counter the pokemon locked in is voted away allready so this wont be happening.
Yet here is still a team i think might work but does need some help.

At a glance:

Team Building:

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Cincinno was the first member of the team , i've always wanted to use it.
Its cute , you will never expect much from it, yet it is VERY strong.
He will have a Skill link set , wich is why this will be a dreamworld team.
He also will most of the time be my lead pokemon.

To have something to resist its weakness (fighting) i was thinking ghost or psychic. This brings me to the next pokemon i've always liked

Reuniclus.
Will be a calm mind set. With his awesome special attack stat he isnt something to mess around with. Resisting fighting , yet creating a weakness to bug , dark and ghost if i'm not mistaken.
For ghost i have cincinno , for dark and bug i need to add something new.
But first i was gonna put some pokemons on the team that i wouldnt want to miss:

Conkeldurr , the awesome fighting pokemon with ALOT of bulk while still beeing an awesome sweeper. He will be a Bulk up set.
Salamance will be the wallbreaker. Everyone knows what is meant with that.

Now i was thinking : This team needs some defence , i have Conkeldurr and Reunicluss as some kind of defesive pokemons yet this will not be quite enough. I always liked skarmory but he kinda asks for a special counterpart. In the end i decided to go with a combination of Skarmory and *drummroll* Specially defensive Tyranitar. Not beeing 100% sure about this but still can try it :)

In Depth:

Cinccino @ Life Orb
Ability: Skill Link
Evs: 252 Atk , 252 Spd , 6 Hp
Jolly Nature ( Sp.Att - , Spd +)
- Tail Slap
- Bullet Seed
- Rock Blast
- U- Turn

Getting 289 Attack and 361 speed with this set makes for a fast yet dangerous pokemon. If i have something to neutral/super effective hit i will hit , if i dont i will U-Turn.
Tail slap is STAB, 25 BP , hits 5 times , maes for a 125 BP move , count in stab and count in 5 chances to have a critical hit.
Same for Bullet seed and rockblast but no stab.
Life orb makes this set a bit more dangerous AND will make me able to stay in after killing a pokemon .
I considered choice band before but beeing locked into something wrong would be terrible.

Synergy:
Fighting > Reuniclus > Skarmory > Salamence

Reuniclus @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
Evs: 252 Hp , 252 Def , 6 Sp.Att
Bold Nature ( Atk- ,Def+ )
- Recover
- Calm Mind
- Psychic/PsyShock ?
- Focus Blast

This set gets 424 Hp , 287 Sp.Att and 273 Defence (and 206 Sp.Def).
After a calm mind that is 430.5 Sp.Att , and 309 Sp.Def.
This one basicallly will not be OHKO'd that easely and having recover it makes for a huge thorn in the eye for the enemys.
I went with a psychic/Fighting coverage. Yet inacurate focus blast can hurt opponents ALOT. I am not sure if i should be using Psychic or Psyshock .

Synergy:

Bug>Skarmory>Conkeldurr>Salamence
Dark>Skarmory>Ttar>Conkedurr>Salamence
Ghost>Cinccino>Conkeldurr>Tyranitar

Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
Evs: 252 Attk , 120 Hp , 132 Sp.Def
Adamant Nature (Attack+ , SP;Att -)
- Bulk up
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Payback

This set is one of the most used things to date if i am not mistaken.
But still a small explenation:
Flame orb to activate guts , taking 1/8th hpdammage per turn (easely recovered with drain punch).
Gives 416 attack , while having a decent bulk in both special and physical defence (after bulk up) .
After getting a bulk up , this set is close to 300 defence and 200 Sp.Defence , not that easely OHKO'd while still having 624 attack. With guts counted in that becomes 936 Attack . This makes ALL his moves very dangerous for any pokemon. Even a skarmory will take 40-60% from a drain punch , and his brave bird will NOT be able to OHKO , not even 2HKO it. Payback is obviously for ghost/psychic so this set has a perfect coverage.

Synergy:
Flying>Skarmory>Tyranitar
Psychic>Tyranitar>Reuniclus>Salamence

Salamence @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
Evs: 252 Spd , 252 Sp.Att , 6 Att
Naive Nature (Sp.Def- , Spd+)
- Roost
- Fire Blast
- Draco Meteor
- Earthquake

This set is a bit different from the normal mixmence , beeing that this one has max speed. I found out the hard way that the extra speed is needed to be faster then other mences , or atleast have a speedtie.
Roost to heal off the LO dammage , Fire blast to kill ferro and friends.
Draco to kill anything that doesnt resist.
Earthquake to surpsise enemys thinking i would switch out after -2 Sp.Att boost from draco. I love this pokemon , he has always helped me win alot of battles.

Ice>Tyranitar
Dragon>Skarmory>Tyranitar
Rock>Skarmory>Conkeldurr

Skarmory @ Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy
Evs: 252 Hp , 252 Def , 6 SpDef
Impish Nature ( Def+ n Sp.Att-)
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

This also is a rather common set for a skarmory.
Roost to help him tank repetitive physical hits.
Brave bird to have an attack that does a bit of dammage atleast.
Spikes for entry hazards , together with Stealthrocks from Ttar this is a nice combination.
Whirlwind for phazing obviously .
Went with a fully defensive version because this helps ALOT when fighting a conkeldurr as they can really hurt after some boosts.

Synergy:

Fire> Tyranitar > Salamence > Reuniclus
Thunder> Tyranitar > Reuniclus > Salamence

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: SandStream
Evs: 248 Hp , 252 Sp.Def , 10 Spd
Carefull Nature ( Sp.Att-, Sp.DEf +)
- StealthRock
- Crunch
- SuperPower
- Earthquake/Pursuit/Stone Edge

For starters : I'm not sure wich move is best for the 3th spot.
Gave him 10 speed to outspeed other tyranitars like this one to OHKO them with superpower. Fully Sp.Defensive set.
This can take hits from lati@s like a boss. Also doesnt mind getting a NON STAB focus blast as he can survive with 5-30 hp and then kill with crunch.
Stealthrocks for an extra entry hazard as some pokemon will defenatly switch out when seeing Ttar.

Synergy:
Fighting> Reuniclus>Salamence>Skarmory
Water> Salamence>Reuniclus
Grass> Salamence>Skarmory
Ground> Skarmory>Salamence
Bug> Skarmory > Conkeldurr > Salamence
Steel> Skarmory

So this is the team , review it , all comments are usefull to me :)
Let me know what to add/change/rethink :D

Just to be clear , this team has a tyranitar but it ISNT a sandstorm team.
The sandstorm that happens is only to boost the special defence , but the rest of the team doesnt benefit of it too much (wich maybe should change?)

Any other pokemons can be advised to me , legends and event pokemon too.
As this is a dreamworld team any ability can be advised too.

Hope you all can help me a bit :D
Thanks in advance

 

[Shurtugal]

My Good Deed For The Day

Welcome to Smogon. Few things we need to get out of the way.

1.) What the hell is T-Tar doing when like 4 of his teammates cannot even benefit from it?
2.) Apart from mixed salamence, you have no special sweepers. Physical Walls will give this team some trouble.
3.) Cinncino a lead? Yeah, you need a better lead (although you can still USE Cinncino)



Sweepers:
Conkeldurr
Salemence
Cinncino

First, you need a special sweeper. Salemence has no place on this team, as its best sets are physical. You need a special sweeper. So I recommend you replace him for the OU dragon Latios. Choice Specs set can really take out some physical walls for you, but you can also run a Expert Belt set allowing you to hit some threats hard with Expert Belt boosted attacks (Skarmory/Cinncino/Tyranitar weak to fighting types suck as Conkeldurr).

Choice Specs Set:

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Latios @ Choice Specs
Nature: Timid
Trait: Levitate
Effort Values: 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 Hp

~ Psyshock
~ Draco Meteor
~ Surf/Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam

Expert Belt Set

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Latios @ Expert Belt
Nature: Timid
Trait: Levitate
Effort Values: 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 Hp

~ Psyshock
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Surf
~ Recover

Sweepers:
Cinncino
Conkeldur
Latios

I wanted to add a Pokemon here that can wall and sweep for your team. Something can take on a lot of common threats to this team (Terrakion spells trouble). So after a lot of thought, I can up with Draognite. There are a lot of sets to him, but I reccommend the bulky sweeper set. When you see Life Orb, its because EQ cannot OHKO Terrakion without it (and Terrakion will take Dragonite out since he outspeeds him)

Dragonite:

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Dragonite @ Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Multiscale
Effort Values: 252 Hp/64 Atk/192 Spe

~ Earthquake
~ Roost
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage/Dragon Claw

Sweepers:
Dragonite
Cinncino
Latios

Lets see how they do against common sweepers:

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Volcarona (Rock Blast with Cinncino, this thing doesn't stand a chance)

Landorus (Ice Beam/Surf on Latios, watch out for some scarfers although none of them can really threaten your Latios)

Terrakion (Choice Scarf Terrakion can give Cinncino and Latios some problems. Thanks to Dragonite, he is no longer a problem.)

Toxicroak (Dragonite can come in on him and EQ him away. Latios's Psyshock will take him out guaranteed)

Latios (Speed tie between your Latios and opponents, Dragonite can take one attack and can follow up Outrage)

Conkeldurr (Latios Psyshock and Dragonite can set up all day)

Scrafty (Dragonite cannot OHKO with Outrage. He can at +1 (which can be set up with multiscale eating the hit from Ice Punch if it runs it), Latios can come in on an injured one and follow up with Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor)

These are the ones on the top of my head. Lets move on to your tanks

Tanks:
Reuniclus
Skarmory
T-Tar

Get rid of T-Tar and Reuniclus. Skarmory is a keeper for this team. I reccommend a Chansey since it pairs so well with Skarmory. Not to many sets to choose from here, so lets see....

Chansey:

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Chansey @ Eviolite
Nature: Bold
Trait: Natural Cure
Effort Values: 252 Hp/252 Def/4 SpA

~ Softboiled
~ Stealth Rock/Heal Bell
~ Seismic Toss
~ Toxic

Tyranitar has no synergy, and since you have your to walls, lets come up with a lead. I suggest some hazards, so we are lookin at Deoxys-S. He also helps with Scrafty

Deoxys-S:

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Deoxys-S @ Focus Sash
Nature: Jolly
Effort Values: 252 Hp/252 Spe/4 Atk

~ Spikes
~ Stealth Rock
~ Superpower
~ Taunt

Hope this (yaaawwwn) helps,
Anthonias

 

[CaseyL]

Bulk Up Conkledurr with Flame Orb is kind of counter effective. The attack on that is enormous, yeah, but it goes against the defense boosts. I like using leftovers on him just to make him a pain to take down, and you can also get a few more boosts. Keep Guts, since other than Reuniclus, no one seriously likes status here. Be sure to abuse the fact that Cinccino is near useless when paralyzed and switch Conk into that so he gets paralyzed instead of burned.

Tyranitar's Sand Stream doesn't seriously hurt this team, but it doesn't help either. Right now, Conkledurr and Cinccino are getting battered by Flame Orb and Life Orb, and sandstorm makes this even worse. I would consider adding Gastrodon to this team, as its a respectable speacial wall and brings only one weakness and a handful of resistences to this team. Gastrodon and Skarmory would get along well, seeing as they cover each others weaknesses well. The main thing you lose with Gastrodon is Stealth Rock.

Cinccino = :)

 

[Soulfly]

Thanks for the first rates.
I understand this team looks a bit noobish to alot of you.
That is because i'm trying to think a bit outside of the box :D
I find myself using the same pokemons over and over , therefor i wanted a change.

I like the suggestions made.
Yet i was thinking about something like this:

Changing Skarmory for a wish jirachi that also has paralyze and iron head so it can paraflinch AND heal.
And then for a special wall i was thinking along te lines of a vaporeon or Gastrodon ?

Sets would be like this:
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Evs: 252 Hp , 252 Def , 6 Sp.Def
Impish Nature ( Def+ , Sp.Att-)
- Wish
- Iron Head
- Body Slam/Thunder Wave
- Fire Punch/Protect
Protect to scout eventually , not sure if i should?

Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
Evs: 252 Hp , 252 Sp.Def , 6 Def
Carefull Nature (Sp.Def+ , Att -)
- Stockpile
- Recover
- Toxic
- Scald

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Evs: 252 Hp, 100 Def, 152 Sp.Def
- Wish
- Protect
- Ice Beam
- Scald/Substitute


Thanks again for the rates , will edit the first topic later today or tomorow :)