Losin Is my Middle Name, NOT

BlazinAcez

Hey guys this is my first rmt on smogon's forums, so yea i thought making a rmt of a new team that i thought would work, would put an idea into you guys' heads of what kind of a player i was and how i am in other senses too! I dunno if that made sense but lol whatever! Umm dont flame me or anything if my team is really messed up cuz i just started the metagame battling and this is my first real team i actually thought up and got to making. Alright so enjoy!


Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
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Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/216 Def/52 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Roar

After a few battles (around 20-25) i since agreed that this thing isthe most annoying lead ever, with stealth rocks to put up and damage everyone, and earthquake and ice beam for good damage, i can just take out almost all the leads, and put a pretty big dent in the enemy team. Roar just helps me a crap load by switchin out those stupid bpers before they have ingrain in and helps me in tough situations to wear down the opponent's hp!
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Starmie @ Choice Scarf
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Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Psychic

Ok so instead of having an umbreon to bp and help out the team, one of the users here on smogon suggested this set, and since then, ive done pretty well, it even clutched a 3v1 situation, so i was surprised. It seems promising but can have its flaws.
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Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
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Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Iron Head

OK well i needed something that would come through for me no matter what i was facing and the first that came to mind was Captain Flinch, JIRACHI!! woot
well its pretty good, saves me in tough situations,i was originally thinking of puttin a Lucario with LO and Crunch n Stuff but i rose to this decision instead. Its also my Phys. Sweeper.
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Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
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Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk/4 SDef
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Vacuum Wave
- Nasty Plot

Ok well i know what youre thinking, WTF VACUUM WAVE?!! well mayeb you are but im scared of missing with Focus Blast, and i really need the damage, so if you know a pokemon other than infernape that is speedy and can do some damage while takin it, please post it up! thanks
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Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
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Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 116 Atk/200 Spd/192 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Superpower
- Thunderbolt

Since one of my fav dragons, Salamence has now passed on to the realm of the ubers, the next best thing was Dragonite. So i thought with its awesome SpA and Atk, it can be a beast mixer, it does its job well, but its now quite what im lookin for.
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Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
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Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- U-turn

Ok last but not least, heres the pokemon that revenge kills, its pretty powerful with the LO and bullet punch with the tech and stab just kicks butt. So i thought it wud be good with this team and help its weaknesses and kill its counters.

If you could please make a change or just a bunch of suggestions, critisicm is always welcome and it would really help me too, thanks alot guys, sorry if i sound like a complete noob, but you cant blame me!

Thanks Guys,

--BlazinAcez
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Ok, I see alot of changes that I'd recommend. First off, Switch Dragonite to your Lead and use Anti-Lead set.

Nature: Quiet Item: Life Orb
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Extremespeed
-Earthquake
252 Atk/ 252 Sp. Atk/4 Speed

Yes, Swampert is wonderful lead...but times have changed, and Swampy loses out to Machamp 50% of the time (Being chance of confusion hax). Moving Swampert back so you can support is a great idea, plus Dragonite has access to the most sought after move in the metagane, Draco Meteor.

Next up is Starmie, I don't like Scarfed Starmie, especially with another capable revenge killer behind it. LO Rapid Spin or a Defensive one would help your team more, but I like the idea of a Vaporeon here, so you can pass wishes onto LO'd members.

Nature: Bold Item: Leftovers
-Wish
-Protect
-Surf
-Toxic/ Ice Beam
188 HP/ 252 Def/ 68 Sp. Def

You might cock your head a little, but this is pretty much explainable. Since Jirachi is already capable of revenging Gyara, HP Electric is no longer that wonderful. Toxic is best as Toxic Stalling has great Synergy with Wish/Protect, however Ice Beam is viable. I dislike the use of the final EV's, as outpacing Skarmory and Metagross doesn't seem huge, and adding some more bulk to this MoFo is amazing.

Jirachi is fine.

Infernape is cool, but Nasty Plotter that doesn't run a physical move doesn't need Naive Nature, and Timid will retain some "Bulk".

Swampert I've got some issues with yours. First of all, if you are running Ice Punch (Which does in fact put out less damage then Ice Beam). So if you decide not to run Anti-Lead Dragonite, Impish would be the better Nature (It is even if you do.) as you pace all other Swampert and most importantly, Machamp. And I'd run a more physically bulky 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Sp. Def, but your set works ok.

Scizor is running Banded moveset and EV's, why not run Choice Band? It dishes out more dame and can act as a MAKESHIFT revenge killer.

Just making recommends, not demands. Good Luck on the team.
 
On Scizor, Choice Band is the preferred item of choice, capable of KOing many pokemon Jirachi can't after the said pokemon gets 2 Dragon Dances up. If your goal is to feign a Choice Band set and deal massive damage to the normal counter, Expert Belt is the next best item to still do quite some damage but not let them know it's choiced by having no recoil.

As for Dragonite, it's currently a wall breaker, much less a sweeper. To sweep, it will need Dragon Dance or it will be easily killed by offensive Suicune or Vaporeon w/ Ice Beam. You want higher-powered moves for Flamethrower and Dragon Pulse: Fire Blast and Draco Meteor so you can deal unsuspecting damage to stallers and switch out to do the same later.

Starmie doesn't need a Choice Scarf, as Jirachi does a fine job. If you insist in having a Choice item, have Trick instead of Psychic, which is more useful in crippling walls. Psychic only really covers Machamp, who is rare outside of lead position. Hydro Pump is almost always a better option, despite its accuracy, it's statistically slightly better and nets important KOs (but misses important KOs 20% of the time). With Choice Specs, all offensive Tyranitar except CBTar is a garuanteed OHKO with Stealth Rock.

Swampert lead is getting outdated as Machamp leads prevail. Dragonite lead as mentioned is a fine option, but if you want a pokemon with high bulk, Uxie may be an option. It has 75/130/130 defenses, U-turn, Stealth Rock, Yawn, Light Screen, Reflect, and its support options are greater than Swampert.

As said, Naive Infernape has Close Combat, which is still quite powerful even without EV or Nature investments. Also, Infernape really has better special movepool than that. HP Ice is really only there to kill Gliscor or Dragonite, but Swampert is your big threat since you have Starmie, and you want Grass Knot on Infernape. Hope that helped.
 
alright well ill try and make those changes nozizaki, thanks alot and yea i was wondering where i cud put in a vaporeon cuz lately theyve been quite the problem. And yea about the swampy lead, i guess your right about the machamps making quite the debut, so i think ill just try out wat you said. Sooner or Later, i think ill put that CB on scizor and put grass knot on infernape. thanks for the rates!

EDIT: Ok well ive been seeing that swampert isnt too great a lead, so i must as well take him out of the team and put in a scarfed flygon to scout?
 
Hello BlazinAces interesting team you have yourself, I have a few suggestions that may help your team out!

Solid team nonetheless few interesting move sets one thing that surprised me is that your team has trouble against Swampert. I would generally see this team struggle to play against a core like Cel/Tran/Pert. You do have Infernape and that usually plays well against that core but your set is interesting and with the lack of an actual fighting move not priority and no Grass Knot which results in potential trouble. After looking at the comments above this team would have a Offensive DD Gyarados weakness. Offensive Gyarados would easily set up on Vaporeon since you lack HP Electric and after one DD it is able to Ko' Jirachi.. So the other posters who said Jirachi is your Gyarados revenge killer is absolutely incorrect. CS Starmie is actually very useful for your team allowing you to out speed and ko' DD threats such as Gyarados and Dragonite. You should use Trick over Pyschic allowing you to stopping Blissey and Skarmory right in it's tracks. If you are looking to change your lead and in the follow up post you said you are willing to use Flygon. You should maintain an electric immune so specs Jolteon can't spam Thunderbolt.

On Infernape you run an interesting Nasty Plot set and you would be better of using MixApe with Grass Knot. By using the MixApe set you won't be having trouble against a core like cel/tran/pert because of Close Combat and Grass Knot. Basically this set just provides you better coverage and an effective stall breaker.

Infernape @ Life Orb | Blaze
Naive | 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
Fire Blast | Close Combat | Grass Knot | Hidden Power Ice

As for Dragonite you should use Mix Nite set your current set lacks raw power and with nixnite Draco Meteor and Fire Blast makes up for that. In your description you say "So i thought with its awesome SpA and Atk, it can be a beast mixer, it does its job well." Well the MixNite set just about does everything what your looking for but even better by using Draco Meteor and a priority attack Extreme Speed.

On Scizor you should use Choice Band there is no point in having LO scout/trap set. You should also get rid of Brick Break and use Superpower for the extra damage. You don't worry about the attack/defense drop by using Superpower since Scizor switch's out and in all the time.
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Hi, welcome to Smogon and congrats on your first RMT! For your first attempt, this team is actually quite good, but I'll try to offer some constructive advice.

Notable Threats
  • Machamp and Roserade leads
Swampert's not a bad lead, but it struggles more in the current metagame due to the prominence of Machamp anti-leads. The confusion hax causes problems for your team at the least, and at worst will prevent you from setting up Stealth Rock. Roserade, and to a lesser extent Celebi, is also a troublesome lead for Swampert, as it can threaten to OHKO with its STAB Grass moves or put a possible switch-in to sleep.
  • Fast Sweepers (Physically-based Infernape, LO Starmie, HP Grass Jolteon)
I mentioned the Physical variety of Infernape because of its ability to 2HKO just about anything on your team and its tendency to U-Turn for scouting, which causes major damage to Starmie. Opposing Starmie and Jolteon with HP Grass are similar problems, as you must rely on heavy switching to gain a chance at taking them out.

Suggestions
  • Use LO Starmie in the lead position
Changing your Starmie's set and team position will allow you to have a better matchup against most leads. The following set should work quite well:

Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Rapid Spin

Ice Beam is usually standard on a LO Starmie set, but Psychic can be used to OHKO Machamp. I feel that Ice Beam is the most replaceable move on this set, as it is only really useful for hitting Dragonite, who takes heavy damage from Starmie's other attacks in addition to switching into Stealth Rock. Rapid Spin can be used to finish off Focus Sash leads, and the ability to rid the field of Stealth Rock makes it much easier for Dragonite to switch in and cause damage.
  • Change Ice Punch to Ice Beam on Swampert
This is a very minor change, but you should only use Ice Punch on Swampert if you're running an Impish nature. Relaxed is for users of a Mixpert lead, which utilizes Ice Beam instead; the main difference between the two is that Ice Beam deals a much greater amount to opposing Gliscor while still checking Dragonite.
  • Change Brick Break to Quick Attack on Scizor
Another minor change, but it could prove quite useful. Basically, Brick Break is only useful against teams that utilize dual screens. This is quite situational, while Quick Attack will allow you to more easily finish off frail sweepers who are resistant to Bullet Punch.


Good luck with your team!
 
K well after listening to everyone's advice i decided to change the team's movesets up a bit and fix it around:

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
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Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 SpD
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar


Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump Instead of Surf
- Thunderbolt (stays)
- Psychic Needed to smoke the machamps
- Rapid Spin

Starmie is not going to be my lead but Swampert will still be the lead, allowing it to outspeed machamps, set up stealth rocks and switch out to starmie.

Jirachi Stays how it is since it does a good job at flinching


Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
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Ability: Blaze
EVs:192 Speed/252 SAtk/63 Atk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot

Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
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Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 116 Atk/200 Spd/192 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Extremespeed
- Thunderbolt

For Raw power, i put in draco meteor and fire blast which was heavily recommended.

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
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Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Superpower
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- U-turn

Ok well thanks for the tips, if there are any more things that needs to be fixed with the team, feel free to post and rate it thanks alot i really appreciate your help. Btw if im bad at editing please dont take it to heart, im not that experienced with posting and rmts. Thank You, BlazinAcez
 
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