Mamoswine Momentum

[amg]

Mamoswine Momentum

Hello it is A Moon Gust again with another RMT. I made this team because I was bored and someone told me to make a team starting with Mamoswine. The team came out to be weatherless volturn. I decided to RMT this because I am still unsure about the sets and pokemon I use. I have used this for a long time now and I am 78-1-21 with it.

Red=Possible Change

The Team:

Mamoswine (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Icicle Crash
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Superpower

I started the team with Mamoswine. Mamoswine is a very powerful with Life Orb. It had good coverage being able to hit Ground, Dragon and Steel, which are very common types in OU, for Super-effective damage. Priority is nice to have for revenging Dragon types and Landorus. This a standard Mamoswine set. I use Adamant over Jolly because I want the extra power. I know that Jolly helps outspeed Heatran, Breloom, Politoed and Adamant Lucario. However, I have other pokemon to deal with Heatran, Lucario and Politoed. Most Brelooms I have seen are sashed and I don't think outspeeding that will be help. Icicle Crash, Ice Shard, Earthquake are all for STAB and priority. Superpower is used for Steel types that are neutral/immune to Ground.

Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Roost
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor

Latios is the 2nd pokemon of my team. It pairs up with Mamoswine by beating Water types. Latios is also powerful and fast. I wasn't sure about what set I should use but from watching my friends from laddering a lot, I decided to use this set. It hasn't disappointed me yet. I use Roost because of the Life Orb recoil I get. Also Latios is vulnerable to all weather. I am using Calm Mind to increase my SpA and SpD. Since, I will be usually switching into special water type attacks, I usually have the chance to setup 1 Calm Mind. Surf and Dragon Pulse are used as my attacks. Some of my losses are because Dragon Pulse may be too weak. However, I got some wins using this to sweep. I am still deciding whether to use Dragon Pulse or Draco Meteor.

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit/Quick Attack

Scizor is used to revenge lots of pokemon that are fast with priority. I also used this pokemon because of the Steel typing resists lots of attacks. I am using the classic Choice Band set because of how powerful it is. It doesn't need to setup to do lots of damage. U-turn is used to keep momentum and give me the advantage. Bullet Punch is for STAB and priority. Superpower hits Steel types for super-effective damage and hits other Scizor hard. Pursuit is used for trapping [slower] Psychic and Ghost types. I have considered using Quick Attack for Water types.

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 232 HP / 56 SAtk / 220 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Rotom-W is also used to beat Water types. It is one of the bulkier pokemon of my team. The EV spread is used to stay alive and to outspeed Mamoswine and Specs Politoed and it is also useful for facing base 100 legendaries. Volt Switch and Hydro Pump are for STAB. Will-O-Wisp is used to get residual damage on things rotom-w can't damage a lot. It does help getting kills as well. Pain Split is the only recovery for Rotom-w besides Rest sadly.

Landorus-T (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 200 HP / 64 Atk / 244 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Landorus-t is my hard counter to many physical threats, mainly Terrakion and Scizor. Landorus-T is also my Stealth Rock user. I didn't want Mamoswine to lose coverage by having Stealth Rock. U-turn is used to keep momentum. Earthquake and Stone Edge are used for coverage. The EV Spread I use to stay alive and even take more physical attacks after Intimidate. Landorus-T is also useful against weak Sun users. I may change the EVs to deal with sun better but I don't think there will be a difference to sun sweepers. Also, Terrakion would crack Landorus-T if I didn't use this EV spread. The EV spread change would let me lose to Terrakion paired up with any physical wall.

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Iron Head
- Ice Punch
- U-turn
- Healing Wish

Jirachi is the last pokemon and my glue to the team. After having 5 pokemon of my team decided. I never had a scarfer nor a pokemon to take Stone Edges. I would use Garchomp but that means I would have 3 Ground types. However, Garchomp would also help beat Sun. Anyways, scarf Jirachi is also used to revenge pokemon while using strong [base power] moves and to take Rock type moves. Iron Head is used for STAB. Ice Punch is used to beat Landorus, Gliscor and other Dragon types. U-turn is used to keep momentum. I have Healing Wish over Trick because I don't have trouble against walls. Rotom-w and sheer power on this team takes care of walls. However, Healing Wish helps bring threats on my team to full health to do more damage.

Anyways, thank you for reading this RMT. Here is the Importable:

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Mamoswine (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Icicle Crash
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Superpower

Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Roost
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Dragon Pulse

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 232 HP / 56 SAtk / 220 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Landorus-T (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 200 HP / 64 Atk / 244 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Iron Head
- Ice Punch
- U-turn
- Healing Wish

 

[amg]

Welp, no one is commenting on my thread. Oh well
Here is the threat list:

Alakazam - Jirachi and Scizor beats it. Mamoswine revenges.
Breloom - Landorus-t is for sleep fodder and Latios resists both of its STABs.
Celebi - Almost all pokemon on my team beats this using U-turn, having a super effective move or resisting its STABs.
Cloyster - Jirachi can take a +2 Rock Blast and defeat it using Iron Head.
Conkeldurr - A threat to my team. Latios revenges it. Rotom-W can damage this as well.
Donphan - Rotom-W beats this easily.
Dragonite - Mamoswine, Scizor,and Jirachi all revenge Dragonite.
Dugtrio - Not a big problem. Almost all of my pokemon beats it 1 on 1
Espeon - Latios can switch-in and do heavy damage. So can Jirachi.
Ferrothorn - This can possibly wall my team. I use Mamoswine and Scizor to try and break this thing.
Forretress - Not threatening at all. All of my pokemon beats it 1 on 1.
Garchomp - Rotom-W and Scizor are my usual switch-ins depending on the situation. Mamoswine revenges
Gengar - I have Scizor and Jirachi to beat this.
Gliscor - Rotom-w switches in and kills this. Mamoswine and Jirachi revenges.
Gyarados - Rotom-W switches and beats Gyarados.
Heatran - Rotom-W switches and beats Heatran. Latios can kill with Surf.
Hippowdon - Rotom-W resists all of its moves and kills it. Mamoswine and Latios can check it.
Infernape - Not common. Rotom-W beats most sets. Scizor can revenge.
Jellicent - Rotom-W and Latios switches in and hits hard.
Jirachi - Landorus-T beats it. Mamoswine checks some Jirachis. Rotom-w can damage it as well.
Jolteon - Scizor and Mamoswine revenges. Jirachi can live a hit and do damage.
Keldeo - Latios can switch into this and do massive damage. Scizor can revenge.
Landorus - Mamoswine revenges. Jirachi can get the surprise kill. Rotom-w and Latios can beat it 1 on 1.
Landorus-T - Mamoswine also revenges. Rotom-W is my switchin.
Lati@s - Jirachi walls them and also outspeeds and hit them for SE damage. Mamoswine can revenge
Lucario - Not common. Scizor and Rotom-W can live a hit and do some damage.
Magnezone - Jirachi has U-turn. However, Magnezone does trap my Scizor. Some people use HP Ice. Anyways, Mamoswine and Latios hit it hard.
Mamoswine - Rotom-W can easily switch in. Jirachi can check it.
Ninetales - Rotom-w and sometimes Latios can switch in and do damage.
Politoed - Rotom-w beats this easily.
Rotom-W - Latios can switch in and do damage
Salamence - Mamoswine and Scizor revenges. Landorus-T switches in.
Scizor - Landorus-T can weaken it. Rotom-w as well.
Skarmory - Rotom-W switches in and kills. Latios doesn't damage as well.
Starmie - Rotom-W can take all of hits and use volt switch. Jirachi revenges
Tentacruel - Rotom-W switches in and does damage. Latios can as well.
Terrakion - Landorus-T switches in. Scizor and Jirachi revenges.
Toxicroak - Scizor, Rotom-W and Jirachi can deal damage.
Tyranitar - Scizor and Landorus-T can switch-in and do damage. Jirachi revenges.
Vaporeon - Rotom-W switches in and damage it. Latios damages as well.
Venusaur - Scizor and Mamoswine revenges. Latios can live a hit and hit back hard.
Volcarona - Rotom-W can do some damage. Scizor might revenge it.

 

[deadflame]

Nice team. Personally, I think you could benefit from Specs Latios. It handles Fighting Types much better, putting less pressure on your Landorus. The set would look something like this:

Latios @ Choice Specs. 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe.
Draco Meteor
Psyshock
Surf
Hidden Power Fire

This set pummels things with it's STAB Draco Meteor, thrashes Fighting Types with Psyshock, handles Heatran and Tyranitar with Surf, and other Steels like Scizor and Ferrothorn with HP Fire. You can also use Trick instead to cripple walls if 349 Speed turns you off. I also recommend Fire Punch on Jirachi instead of Healing Wish. For more coverage and a more reliable way to beat Scizor. Other than that, very nice team!

 

[ganj4lF]

Your team suffers badly against Keldeo + Tyranitar cores, in my opinion. While it's true that Latios can 2HKO Tyranitar on the switch and can switch into Keldeo and fight back, it is the only pokemon capable of handling Keldeo in your team, and if you lose it to anything (a misprediction suffices, for example going for the Draco Meteor / CM / Roost on a Tyranitar switch-in) Keldeo is free to nuke the rest of your team and basically get a kill every time it switches in (Rotom-W is 2HKO'd by unboosted Secret Sword after SR and 1 round of Sandstorm; Jirachi outspeeds but can't do anything).

To help fixing this problem, I suggest replacing your Rotom-W for a Jellicent. Jellicent provides a very reliable stop to almost every variant of Keldeo out there (the only two that can muscle through it are Specs or CM w/ HP Ghost / Electric, which are kinda rare in my experience, and the HP Electric one is handled by Latios anyway) and can hit TTar with WoW or Scald on the switch to avoid being beaten by it. Jellicent still works pretty much as Rotom did, except it cannot use Volt Switch, but instead gains reliable recovery, an additional resistance to Fighting which is not weak to Bug, and an immunity to Water which is very valuable, especially with things like SpecsToed being so common. It also provides something that can fight back with Volcarona (not that well, but still, your current team is destroyed by it), although I guess you need to give it Toxic to be able to do so (regardless, spinblocking will be very important alone against such a pokemon). I guess the EV choice is up to you: both the phisically and specially defensive variants have their merit (the former handles more easily burned physical attackers like Scizor, TTar, etc, while SpD can check Lando-I, Starmie much better, and to an extent Volcarona w/o Giga Drain).

Jellicent @ Leftovers | Water Absorb
Bold | 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spe or Calm | 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 SpD
- Scald
- Recover
- WoW / Toxic
- Taunt / Ice Beam / Shadow Ball / Toxic

I'd also suggest you to remove CM from Latios; in my experience, going for a CM in this meta is very often a bad idea. Besides the obvious Tyranitar switch-ins you're losing to, there are also many things you just can't go through and that will force you out without any effort (see Ferrothorn, for example, but also things like ScarfRachi, Scizor, Celebi w/ Thunder Wave and similar mons). In my opinion, a more offensively oriented set like Draco Meteor | Surf | Hp Fire / Psyshock | Roost is better suited for your team since it hits almost as hard compared to +1 Dragon Pulse with Draco Meteor, and it can play a much better hit-and-run playstyle with its better coverage. This is probably a questionable suggestion, but still it may be useful, I guess.

Hope I helped. Good luck.

 

[Honus]

volcarona really has a field day against this team; sun teams in general sort of look really annoying, triple attack growth venu especially; sludge bomb is an ohko or some shit on latios. anyways about volcarona/sun i think you ought to consider changing mamoswine to terrakion and use a hippowdon over your landorus-t. i think that weatherless offense is a pretty big challenge and hippowdon is basically the same as landorus-t defensively except for the fact that it can change the weather to your advantage, so Latios can sweep through sun teams. i agree with ganj4lf to just run an LO Recover, just because psyshock is so valuable in the current meta but cm isnt a bad choice if you dont want to go with that, given it rapes hippo stall teams. anyways about hippowdon, it's a pretty effective alternative for the whole weather thing, if youre scared of still being weather weak then slap fire punch on jira but rotom-w and your own scizor should be fine counters. sd terrak is probably a better choice over mamoswine as well imo, since you have an excellent dragon check in jirachi and 2 good landorus checks plus i mean it will be banned anyways because its broken lol, anyways terrak has some really good offensive presence and its a good volcarona check for the most part; and can work well with scizor to break down each others counters and shit. my friend runs a build like this and its pretty effective

so basically
lando-t ->hippowdon
mamo->sd terrakion
latios put psyshock over cm

 

[Kirigakure]

Is a great team,but have one visible weakness to Lati@s life orb/specs.
U do not have security exchange for it.
And one time that Latios is trapped with a Ttar, Keldeo too is a problem.
Jellicent replace easily rotom,doing function of special wall and prevent Landorus rp sweep in late game and Keldeo all-out attacker.

 

[amg]

Your team suffers badly against Keldeo + Tyranitar cores, in my opinion. While it's true that Latios can 2HKO Tyranitar on the switch and can switch into Keldeo and fight back, it is the only pokemon capable of handling Keldeo in your team, and if you lose it to anything (a misprediction suffices, for example going for the Draco Meteor / CM / Roost on a Tyranitar switch-in) Keldeo is free to nuke the rest of your team and basically get a kill every time it switches in (Rotom-W is 2HKO'd by unboosted Secret Sword after SR and 1 round of Sandstorm; Jirachi outspeeds but can't do anything).

To help fixing this problem, I suggest replacing your Rotom-W for a Jellicent. Jellicent provides a very reliable stop to almost every variant of Keldeo out there (the only two that can muscle through it are Specs or CM w/ HP Ghost / Electric, which are kinda rare in my experience, and the HP Electric one is handled by Latios anyway) and can hit TTar with WoW or Scald on the switch to avoid being beaten by it. Jellicent still works pretty much as Rotom did, except it cannot use Volt Switch, but instead gains reliable recovery, an additional resistance to Fighting which is not weak to Bug, and an immunity to Water which is very valuable, especially with things like SpecsToed being so common. It also provides something that can fight back with Volcarona (not that well, but still, your current team is destroyed by it), although I guess you need to give it Toxic to be able to do so (regardless, spinblocking will be very important alone against such a pokemon). I guess the EV choice is up to you: both the phisically and specially defensive variants have their merit (the former handles more easily burned physical attackers like Scizor, TTar, etc, while SpD can check Lando-I, Starmie much better, and to an extent Volcarona w/o Giga Drain).

Jellicent @ Leftovers | Water Absorb
Bold | 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spe or Calm | 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 SpD
- Scald
- Recover
- WoW / Toxic
- Taunt / Ice Beam / Shadow Ball / Toxic

I'd also suggest you to remove CM from Latios; in my experience, going for a CM in this meta is very often a bad idea. Besides the obvious Tyranitar switch-ins you're losing to, there are also many things you just can't go through and that will force you out without any effort (see Ferrothorn, for example, but also things like ScarfRachi, Scizor, Celebi w/ Thunder Wave and similar mons). In my opinion, a more offensively oriented set like Draco Meteor | Surf | Hp Fire / Psyshock | Roost is better suited for your team since it hits almost as hard compared to +1 Dragon Pulse with Draco Meteor, and it can play a much better hit-and-run playstyle with its better coverage. This is probably a questionable suggestion, but still it may be useful, I guess.

Hope I helped. Good luck.

Thank you for the rate. Jellicent do seems to fit my team better than Rotom-W. And yea, I wasn't sure of the Latios set so I will gladly change that.

volcarona really has a field day against this team; sun teams in general sort of look really annoying, triple attack growth venu especially; sludge bomb is an ohko or some shit on latios. anyways about volcarona/sun i think you ought to consider changing mamoswine to terrakion and use a hippowdon over your landorus-t. i think that weatherless offense is a pretty big challenge and hippowdon is basically the same as landorus-t defensively except for the fact that it can change the weather to your advantage, so Latios can sweep through sun teams. i agree with ganj4lf to just run an LO Recover, just because psyshock is so valuable in the current meta but cm isnt a bad choice if you dont want to go with that, given it rapes hippo stall teams. anyways about hippowdon, it's a pretty effective alternative for the whole weather thing, if youre scared of still being weather weak then slap fire punch on jira but rotom-w and your own scizor should be fine counters. sd terrak is probably a better choice over mamoswine as well imo, since you have an excellent dragon check in jirachi and 2 good landorus checks plus i mean it will be banned anyways because its broken lol, anyways terrak has some really good offensive presence and its a good volcarona check for the most part; and can work well with scizor to break down each others counters and shit. my friend runs a build like this and its pretty effective

so basically
lando-t ->hippowdon
mamo->sd terrakion
latios put psyshock over cm

Yeah, this team is weak to sun. I will tryout those changes. They seem to be helpful to my team. Thanks.