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Frozzen

Frozzen

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Hey there all! :D

I've always been a hail lover (you can deduce it by my nick and pic lol), so hey, what was I waiting for? After a looooooot of headaches, here is what I made:

AT A GLANCE

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IN DEPTH

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Abomasnow @ Abomasite
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Giga Drain
- Ice Shard
- Blizzard
- Earthquake​
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Yum, what's a hail team without its incredible, grand Abomasnow? Look at it. Such a lovely face, such a great 7 weaknesses... :3 Seriously, its 7 weaknesses are the best that could ever happened to abomasnow. They are useful to tempt some pokémon to come to the fiel, such as heatran, to be OHKO'ed or 2OHKO'ed. Moreover, it is amazingly useful vs Rotom-w.
However, I've been thinking to put HP fire over eq to deal with scizor, or even focus punch to hit chansey/blissey and heatran on the switch, although a lot of pokémon just volt switch/u-turn on Abomasnow, making focus punch almost imposible to hit.

By the way, I'm also thinking to sacrifice some EVs on SpA or HP to make ice shard stronger, what do u guys think?
0 IVs are there to reduce Ferrthorn's 0 IVs gyro ball power, as M-abomasnow is still faster than it and doesn't care to sacrifice more of its bad speed, as 31 IVs is still slower than Slowbro, but faster than it before mega evolving.


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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell​

Vaporeon is a great partner of abomasnow, as wish pass is the only way to heal it. But it is great defensive pokémon in general. Heal bell is there to heal status, quite problematic for quagsire and Abomasnow (as it get's commonly burned by Rotom-w). However, it can be self-defeating if my gliscor has been knock offed lol.
Roar could be an option to avoid subs from kyurem-b, which is a real threat for this team, but still heal bell is prefered.

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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 220 SpD / 40 Spe
Calm Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt​

I hate clefable. Do you also hate it? Then, you'll know how this Heatran works. WoW and Lava plume may seem redundant, but lando-T, Ttar and Chomp are more commonly switched into Heatran than I thought, presumably predicting my stealth rock. That's where WoW gets useful. Besides, it is a way to make residual damage to M-venusaur. Taunt gums up walls such as sylveon, while puts an stop on Calm Mind clefable (damn, that pokémon is so anoying).


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Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe/ 4 SpD
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
- Defog​

M-venusaur was still a problem, as well as keldeo, and I needed something to take the rocks out or my poor abomasnow would have its switches counted, so that's why I picked Latias. Psyshock over psychic to deal with calm mind keldeos and assault vest conkeldurrs. Leftovers over life orb or hail damage+life orb would end with Latias extremely quickly. I need to run roost cause I am really dependent on this Latias because of the synergy it gives me.

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Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Lax Nature
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Toxic
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Damn, fucking zard X. I used to run an Assult Vest Azumarill here, but Mega Pinsir was a really threat, as well as Bisharp. They still are, but at least quagsire can resist them. Not much to say here. Its typing makes him also a great answer to M-manectric, as well as non focus blast Thundurus.


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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 64 Def / 200 Spe
Impish Nature
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Toxic
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Taunt works amazingly well on Gliscor. With those EVs on Spe I can outspeed what it must be taunted, included Mew or M-Heracross. It may sound ridiculus, but mew can be reeaaaally anoying on this team. That's why I needed to outspeed it. On the other hand, if M-hera can't set up a sword dance, I can beat it with toxic stall. Because of the good predictions I need to to do, Protect is almost compulsory for me to scout. However, I'm seriously thinking to use an special defensive gliscor because of M-alakazam and others.



CONCLUSION​

As you can see, this team needs a lot of prediction to work. I reached the top 100 with this team on showdown (1834 was my best). Do u know how i did it? Well, me neither! I have toooooooo many threats: Landorus-I, Thundurus-I, Bisharp, M-alakazam, M-pinsir, M-Heracross, Kyurem-b, pursuiters in general beacuse of my Latias dependance... but the most frightening thing for this team is M-Gardevoir. Yeah, that fairy type pokémon has the power to OHKO everything of my team. I can only deal with it with blizzard+ice shard, as M-Abomasnow can survive one focus blast of that thing. Latias can also end with it after some damage with psyshock. Still, it is really dangerous.

Oh, and I almost forgot that M-medicham is also really dangerous. If it hasn't got ice punch, it's OK, but if it does, someone will have to write "rest in peace" on my headstone lol. Seriously, I need to predict the switch to wow it with heatran, or protect whenever a high jump kick comes, switching into latias... etc

I'll make a detailed threat list later. Hope you liked this RMT and please, help me to improve the team! ;P

Edited: sorry guys, those are not the EVs I'm running on Latias. It is 252 SpA/252 Spe and Timid. It's correct now.
 
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One little nitpick on gliscor is to run roost over protect, it's generally better because you're not carrying sub, so sub toxic isn't as effective.
 
Pikachu42 said:
One little nitpick on gliscor is to run roost over protect, it's generally better because you're not carrying sub, so sub toxic isn't as effective.
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Umm yeah, you may are right cause as you say, I'm not running the subtoxic set, although I loose the scout ability. It's something to test at least. Thank you!
 
Hey, you should definitely try Alomomola over Vaporeon. Alomomola has Regenerator, which allows it to self heal as it switches in and out of various Attacks. It also has a huge HP stat that makes it capable of passing Wishes that replenishes more HP than Vaporeon's wishes. Alomomola can also wall many of the tiers physical threats such as, Talonflame, Azumarill, Mega Charizard X, Excadrill, and more. If you're afraid of getting inflicted with status moves or stunted by Taunt, you could run Magic Coat on Alomomola. Magic Coat blocks all status moves so you could also use it to block entry hazard's and reflect them back to your opponents side of the field. All in all, Alomomola is a great defensive Pokemon and would greatly improve the quality of this team if you choose to use it. Another change that would benefit the team is a bulkier Latias spread, 112 HP / 144 Spa / 252 Spe Timid nature would be better for this team. The investment in HP makes it easier for Latias to take hits, don't worry about the Special Attack investment, Latias still 2HKOes Mega Venusaur. Hope I helped a bit.
Alomomola @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 36 HP / 252 Def / 220 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Protect / Magic Coat
- Wish
 
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Rob. I'm not a team rater by any means but Recover/Roost are the same thing. You don't lose Levitate when you use Roost

Also, Frozzen I would really change that Lax nature on your Quagsire for Relaxed.
 
First of all, I'm really sorry to answer soo late, I thought no one wanted to help me :(

Rob. said:
Hey, you should definitely try Alomomola over Vaporeon. Alomomola has Regenerator, which allows it to self heal as it switches in and out of various Attacks. It also has a huge HP stat that makes it capable of passing Wishes that replenishes more HP than Vaporeon's wishes. Alomomola can also wall many of the tiers physical threats such as, Talonflame, Azumarill, Mega Charizard X, Excadrill, and more. If you're afraid of getting inflicted with status moves or stunted by Taunt, you could run Magic Coat on Alomomola. Magic Coat blocks all status moves so you could also use it to block entry hazard's and reflect them back to your opponents side of the field. All in all, Alomomola is a great defensive Pokemon and would greatly improve the quality of this team if you choose to use it. Another change that would benefit the team is a bulkier Latias spread, 112 HP / 144 Spa / 252 Spe Timid nature would be better for this team. The investment in HP makes it easier for Latias to take hits, don't worry about the Special Attack investment, Latias still 2HKOes Mega Venusaur. Hope I helped a bit.
Alomomola @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 36 HP / 252 Def / 220 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Protect / Magic Coat
- Wish
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Yeah, Alomomola is great, I'm testing it, but a bit different. I'm running mirror coat instead of toxic as I already have a toxic user, and mirror coat becomes deadly for volt switch users and special attackers in general. However, loosing heal bell really hurts my team, specially battling stall teams; and scald really does nothing compare to vaporeon's scald. Is something I have to think about.

AfroThunderRule, you are right, it was a missclick there :P

Thank you both! I'm still trying to make this team better, any other suggestion is welcome :D
 
Really good job on making the team! It looks extremely solid ,although, I think it lacks offensive power. It's solid and all, but a team is nothing if it doesn't have a reliable win-condition. No matter how solid it is. It could definitely use some type of setup sweeper. Because I've noticed alot through testing that it's hard to win with only 2 main offensive Pokemon. I think it's a bit too stally. You also could use a Scarfer. And you get wrecked by Pinsir-Mega:
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252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 198-234 (50.2 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Mega Pinsir Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 476-560 (123.6 - 145.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 244 HP / 64+ Def Gliscor: 177-208 (50.2 - 59%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Poison Heal
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But enough of me complaining, now on how to actually improve it! :D

1.
As for a Scarfer I'd definitiely suggest Keldeo. Here's a set for it!

Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Icy Wind
- Scald

2.
Now as for Pinsir-Mega there really aren't alot of checks to it. However, there are a few. One of them being Rotom-W and a physically defensive set. Like this one!

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 252 HP / 212+ Def Rotom-W: 88-104 (28.9 - 34.2%) -- 2.3% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Mega Pinsir Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 212+ Def Rotom-W: 106-125 (34.8 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
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0 SpA Rotom-W Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Pinsir: 170-204 (62.7 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Also, keep in mind that Stealth Rocks demolish it!

Other than that I really don't have alot to say. Nice team! And kudos for the Taunt on Heatran. You could perhaps try Roar? =)
 
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