ORAS OU Mega Beedrill In OU

[Digital8bit]

I BRING A MEGA BEEDRILL TEAM. BEWARN. THIS IS SOME STUPID STUFF THAT WORKS!!!

Rage (Gyarados) (F) @ Leftovers
Shiny: Yes
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 244 Def / 12 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Taunt
- Fire Blast
- Waterfall
- Thunder Wave

First off, I needed a Physical Wall, and I like being original, so I went Gyradoes>Diancie. This thing I meant for Talonflames, and a lot of things on my team if meant for Talonflames since it destorys Mega Beedrill. Taunt is to stop people setting up/recoving. Fire Blast is for ferrothorns that can be a problem. Waterfall is for stab those bird lovers that uses talonflame ;]. Thunder Wave is there for slowing down most mons and a certain bird.

Heated (Heatran) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Flash Cannon
- Taunt
Like I said, I HATE TALONFLAME. I'm the worst Heatran user, and I used it once and got killed by mud-slaps everywhere in 4th gen. I decided to retry it. Lava Plume was one of my favorite moves in HGSS, and now since I got into competitive play, its scald just on fire and more lavay!!! Stealth Rock is to break a certain bird wings and break focus slash users. Flash Cannon is stab but I'm thinking of replacing it for HP Rock for Talonflame. Taunt is there to stop Set-Uppers and recoving birds.

Hornet (Mega Beedrill) (F) @ Beedrillite
Trait: Sniper
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Drill Run
- U-turn
- Poison Jab
- Protect
Pretty much the only hoenn mega I like, other than Altaria, is Beedrill. I use to run this on PO, and it worked. Drill Run is for Heatran. U-turn is for stab+Adapt and being a better glass cannon. Poison Jab is there for Clefables. Protect is to scout piorty moves that can kill it with 1 attack. Yes, even FakeOut+Quick Attack Pikachu hurts.

TheGREAT (Gengar) (F) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dazzling Gleam
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Wave
- Thunderbolt

I needed a special attacker, and I was down for Mew [scarf] or focus slash gengar. I remembered Gengar gets Sludge Wave and chose Gengar. Dazzling Gleam is for Dark Types. Shadow Ball is for Stab. Sludge Wave is for stab. Thunderbolt is for a certain bird that thinks I'm not focus slash ;] also water types.

Luke (Lucario) (F) @ Muscle Band
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Extreme Speed
B4 you get started about the choice of bands, my choice is some muscle. I don't like getting lock in. Drain Punch is for Bisharp that can other wise kill Gengar, Beedrill, and Gyrados (Defiant :[). Heatran is good but can get hurt buy it really hard and if it is focus slash, without rocks, heatran is ded. Ice Punch is for Bulky Chomp that is common achually. EQ is for Heatrans that can survive a Drain Punch but not a EQ. Extreme Speed is for finishing off talonflame thats under rocks.

Starmie @ Assault Vest
Shiny: Yes
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Psyshock
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Rapid Spin
First, the item is Assault Vest because I already got 2 Lefty users and a switch into a non-stab move and get a rapid spin off is good. Psyshock is for stab and Conceldurs, it won't OHKO but it will allow Lucario come in and Espeed. Ice Beam is for Bulky Chomp and Landorus. Scald is for stab+burn. Rapid Spin is for spinning webs, throwing rocks away, gets spikes out and leech seed ded.

I would love some advice of how to make this team better. :].

 

[Tushar Cool]

Hi :),Nice rmt :D,try to add pics next time ,but its fine for me :3.
Now ,the team isn't that good it looks like u r new to competitive battling :].

• I think Rotom-W > Gyarados for your team it has reliable recovery also it hits both Talonflame and Mega Pin sir super effectively ,in short its better bird spam counter , also it has recovery so it cab recover in battles which makes it more reliable :].
• Also,Change your Gengar's set and item ,it isn't the standard set :3.
• You are weak to mega gross ,mega Lop , mega Alt so Scizor >Lucario its a good mega gross and mega lop counter and its a reliable mega alt check it also fills the role of set up sweeper ,just like Lucario :3.
• Imo use Latios / Latias over starmie to counter Zard Y ,because u don't have something to deal with Zard Y :).
• You still looks weak to Zard X,so what about lando-t over heatran?, its a good zard X check and can set up rocks ,so u probs can try that :).

Sets ^_^

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Volt Switch

TheGREAT (Gengar) (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Wave
- Taunt / Substitute

Scizor @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 84 Atk / 176 SpD
Impish Nature
- Swords Dance
- Superpower / Knock off
- Bullet Punch
- Roost

Latias @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 72 HP / 184 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Roost

Or

Cashier (Latios) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Recover

Albacore (Landorus-Therian) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Atk / 240 Def / 8 Spe
Impish Nature
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Knock Off

Focus blast on Gengar is better than dazzling gleam because a few dark types have neutral effect of fairy for ex- Bisharp :3 also Sludge wave hits hard most of the bulky waters so u don't need Thunder bolt if u wanna know about any other pokemon write that on conversation.

P.S. Good Luck,Have Fun :3.

 

[iMack]

Hey Digital8bit and welcome to Smogon! This looks like a decent RMT, but you should really put some images/GIFs of your team members in your thread. Not only does adding images make your RMT a lot more visually appealing, it might even help visual raters (like me hehe) when everything is nicely lined up like they are in actual battles. Also, do try to add more to your set descriptions. (A good rule of thumb is, the effort you expect from your rates should be the effort you put into your RMT ^-^)

Moving on to your team!

I'm going to start off with possibly my biggest suggestion to your team. Your current Gyarados set is to say the least, far from optimal, so I would consider scrapping it and replacing it entirely. If you're really looking for a Talonflame counter, then Physically Defensive Rotom-W is the way to go. Washtom's Volt Switch is enough to deal with most offensive variants, and even SpD Talonflame has a hard time dealing with Hydro Pump spam. In addition, having Will-O-Wisp under your belt also allows you to neutralize any other possible physical threats that can take on Beedrill.

Possible Rotom-W Set

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

44 Speed EVs allows you to just barely outspeed any Jolly Azumarill that roam OU.

For your Heatran, you should consider running something like Toxic over Flash Cannon. Although Steel is Pokemon's best defensive type, it works very poorly offensively. Flash Cannon only hits super-effectively on three types- Ice, Rock, and Fairy; Heatran's Lava Plume deals with Ice types while its typing easily scares off Fairy types. The only Rock types of OU like Aerodactyl, Tyranitar, and Terrakion won't appreciate a burn, and it's not very smart to stay in on any of them unless it's your only option. I wouldn't consider using HP Rock beacause Heatran works naturally well as a Talonflame check already, HP Rock has almost no utility outside of Talonflame, and Toxic works nicely along with Taunt to put a timer on opposing Talonflames. If you really want to take on and KO Talonflames, you should consider using Stone Edge instead. Although you won't invest in Attack and its 80% accuracy leaves much to be desired, Stone Edge does a much better job of taking care of Talonflame and Charizard Y (this means OHKO on even the standard Stallbreaker Talonflame).

Your Mega Beedrill set looks nice, so I can't do much to change it. Also, I'm going to assume you mean Speed when you use "Spd" in your set descriptions. Be sure to change this in future RMTs!

Its true that Gengar works pretty well as a Sash lead, but its potential lies in its versatility and sheer attacking power. I would run a standard LO set over the one you're using, for two reasons. The first reason is because SR is such a centralizing force in the OU Metagame. If things get real dicey with Starmie and you're unable to spin hazards off, the Sash on your Gengar will be rendered useless on the send-in. The second reason is that, well, Life Orb greatly increases Gengar's already scary power as a Special Attacker. Whether you decide to go with a LO variant or not, you should replace Dazzling Gleam with Focus Blast, since it slams STAB-resisting switchins like Tyranitar, Excadrill, Bisharp, and even Scizor that would otherwise take a pitiful amount of damage from Dazzling Gleam. If you choose to run LO Gengar, I would replace Thunderbolt with Substitute rather than Taunt because your Heatran already carries Taunt, and Substitute will allow you to take advantage of an incoming Sucker Punch from Bisharp.

Possible Gengar Set

Gengar (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Sludge Wave
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast

As for your Lucario, I would consider replacing it with SD Bisharp simply for lack of a win-condition on your team. Bisharp will fulfill a similar role to Lucario as a strong physical attacker; It can get rid of SpD Heatran at +2, and it will also be able to take care of Scarfed Landorus-T, which your team has some real trouble with. By making the changes stated above, the utility of your current Lucario set will be lessened; two of your Pokemon will be Talonflame checks, and Gengar won't be as susceptible to Bisharp as it once was. I believe that as one of OU's finest win-conditions, Bisharp will fit wonderfully on your team.

Possible Bisharp Set

Bisharp (F) @ Black Glasses
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch

It looks like you have a very offensively oriented team, so replacing Assault Vest with Life Orb and Natural Cure with Analytic on your Starmie would greatly increase its offensive pressure, which would greatly benefit its role as a rapid spinner. If you make this change, you should also consider replacing Scald with Hydro Pump, since an Analytic STAB Hydro Pump deals an impressively scary amount of damage on even neutrally-resisted switchins. Running Life Orb on Starmie will also guarantee you an OHKO on any Physically Defensive Garchomp.

Lastly, I have just two minor tweaks to make for not only this team but for any of your future teams. Always try to keep your team members' HP at an odd number. This will allow you to survive recoil, weather, status, and hazard damage for longer periods of time. This means putting 248 EVs in HP rather than 252, and investing those "useless 4 EVs" somewhere else. Also, whenever you have Special Attackers that aren't running any physical moves, set their IVs all the way to down to 0. This way, you can minimize Foul Play and "punch-yourself-in-the-face" damage when they get confused.

PLEASE READ ~ Damage Calculations

252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 452-536 (112.1 - 133%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 484-569 (133.7 - 157.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 910-1076 (334.5 - 395.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Scizor: 207-243 (60.3 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0- Atk Heatran Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Talonflame: 316-372 (106.3 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0- Atk Heatran Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard Y: 292-344 (98.3 - 115.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

0- Atk Heatran Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 316-372 (88 - 103.6%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

0 SpA Heatran Hidden Power Rock vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Talonflame: 200-236 (55.7 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 SpA Heatran Hidden Power Rock vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 196-232 (65.9 - 78.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252 Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 354-417 (91.9 - 108.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

+1 252 Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 24 Def Landorus-T: 297-349 (93.1 - 109.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock (Defiant Boost)

+1 252 Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 24 Def Landorus-T: 243-286 (76.1 - 89.6%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock (Defiant Boost)

252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 489-577 (116.4 - 137.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Starmie Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 376-444 (89.5 - 105.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

I wish you luck in your future battles!

 

[Digital8bit]

Thanks guys. Was offline for awhile. I'm going to try these out asap!

 

[Digital8bit]

Um...I need a little help with this team just a little more. I just got swept 3 times with a MegaZardX. I've tried to played around it, but my team can't 1 hit KO it. Rotom can do it at +2, but hydro pump can't 2 shot, and if I miss, bisharp can't come in and finish it. Please help...

 

[Tushar Cool]

Um...I need a little help with this team just a little more. I just got swept 3 times with a MegaZardX. I've tried to played around it, but my team can't 1 hit KO it. Rotom can do it at +2, but hydro pump can't 2 shot, and if I miss, bisharp can't come in and finish it. Please help...

In my rate check out my last point I wrote that u r kinda weak to zard X using lando-t over heatran works thif, if u will switch-in your lando-t vs zard X when its dancing it has to switch forcibly or it will be killed and if used fbiltz its atk will be down so it has to switch-out again otherwise it will be ko'ed , u can predict switch-out and make your move according to it...

If u don't wanna use lando-t or afraid that it can't recover fast u can even try hippowdown.

Hippo

Avarice87 (Hippowdon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Slack Off

P.S. Have a nice day and Have fun! :]…

 

[Digital8bit]

In my rate check out my last point I wrote that u r kinda weak to zard X using lando-t over heatran works thif, if u will switch-in your lando-t vs zard X when its dancing it has to switch forcibly or it will be killed and if used fbiltz its atk will be down so it has to switch-out again otherwise it will be ko'ed , u can predict switch-out and make your move according to it...

If u don't wanna use lando-t or afraid that it can't recover fast u can even try hippowdown.

Hippo

Avarice87 (Hippowdon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Slack Off

P.S. Have a nice day and Have fun! :]…

Thanks. I didn't see the Landorus on the first post. My phone was acting stupid :p