ORAS UU Mega Bird is the Word

foreversevenfold

foreversevenfold

I've been using the same old UU team for so long now. It has worked pretty well, but I really think it's time for a change. So I started building a new team. I've made adjustments where I saw there was a weakness, but I still feel like it could be better. Let me know what you guys think! constructive criticism is always welcome and appreciated!



The Mega:

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Pidgeot-Mega @ Pidgeotite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Roost
- U-turn

Normally when building a team I like to pick a mega that I want to use and build around that Pokemon. For this team, I decided to go with Pidgeot! This is the standard Pidgeot set. Nothing too unique here. Hurricane as the main STAB move which packs a crazy punch, Heat Wave for coverage, Roost for longevity, and U-Turn to keep up with that momentum. The only difference between this and most Pidgeots is that I'm using a hasty nature instead of timid for as much damage from U-Turn as I can get. But coming off of a base 80 attack might not be worth it... I'm not too sure. Then again, Pidgeot is not entirely bulky, so I don't think it suffers too much from the slightly reduced bulk from a hasty nature.

Putting the VOLT in VoltTurn:
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Heliolisk @ Choice Specs
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Surf
- Grass Knot Hyper Voice

I'm a huge fan of the VoltTurn combo, so with Pidgeot packing U-Turn my next addition needed to be a fast electric type. Helioisk is one of my favorite Pokemon to be introduced in 6th gen. Good speed, hits fairly hard (especially with the specs set), a collection of good abilities, and a great move pool. Ultimately I chose Helioisk over Jolteon because of how prominent CroCune is in UU, and this set is a hard counter to it. Volt Switch for that VoltTurn combo, T-bolt for a stronger electric attack, Grass Knot solely to catch unexpected Swamperts on the switch, and Surf to hit other ground types without relying on Hidden Power. Like I said, Helioisk has a lot of options for viable moves, so if you have any suggestions for moves that may work better I'd love to hear!

The Physical Wall:
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Chesnaught @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Drain Punch
- Spiky Shield
- Seed Bomb Spikes

Another favorite of mine from the 6th Gen. I remember back when the X&Y trailer first came out. As soon as I saw the three starters I KNEW I was choosing Chespin. Then he turned into this beast and as it turns out he is a hell of a defensive wall. Leech Seed is a great option for Chesnaught to supply it with some passive recovery as well as put in some chip damage on opponents. Spikey Shield to prolong seed recovery and potentially get some more chip damage as well. Drain Punch (thank god for ORAS tutors) has been a godsend for Chesnaught. It gives it a great fighting STAB as well as additional recovery. Finally, I could not decide between Seed Bomb or Spikes, but I eventually settled with Seed Bomb to hit bulky water types. Spikes sounded appealing, but since I'm running Defog on this team over Rapid Spin I decided it would not be worth it to set up so many layers to just Defog them away later on. EDIT: LOL JK I was convinced to go with Spikes after all

Speaking of Defog...:

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Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Toxic Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Defog

Originally Swampert, I decided to use Empoleon instead because I did not like using Defog on Pidgeot. Empoleon has great defensive synergy with Chesnaught. Together they make a great defensive core. Empoleon's job is to spread statuses, set rocks, and keep rocks away from Pidgeot. It can switch into toxics and several type attacks that were a problem for the team. Overall Empoleon has been an invaluable asset to the team.

Rounding out the defensive core:
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Cresselia (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Moonlight
- Psyshock
- Moonblast

Looking at the team, I noticed I didn't really have a good fighting type switch in. So the Bulk Queen herself was a natural fit as a mixed wall/special tank. She can sponge several hits, set up a few Calm Minds, and make a few dents in the opposing team. Psyshock is to get through special walls and provide a good STAB move while Moonblast hits dark types that threaten Cress while also providing good all around coverage. Finally, Moonlight is there is heal Cress back up. The 16 speed EVs are recommended by Smogon to outspeed uninvested base 85s like Suicune.


The Wall-Breaker:

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Feraligatr @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Crunch

Looking at this team, I noticed it lacked pure power. I had yet to try out Sheer Force 'Gatr, so I thought this would be a good team to try it out on. And let me say: it's an absolute monster. For example, at +1, this a Waterfall from this thing is a guaranteed OHKO against physically defensive Florges after rocks. The idea is to force a switch, set up a DD, and click the appropriate coverage move. Once its checks and counters have been worn down, not too much can stand in the way of a Gatr sweep.


So there you have it, folks. I've only just begun using this team, so I don't really have a good ladder ranking to share. Any tips or suggestions would be great! Right now, I know I have a bit of an electric weakness that Swampert used to take care of before I switched it with Empoleon, but like I said I enjoy the Defog support from Empoleon a lot. But anyway, that's what I have for ya! Thanks always everyone :)

Import:
Cresselia (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Moonlight
- Psyshock
- Moonblast

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Defog

Chesnaught @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Drain Punch
- Spiky Shield
- Spikes

Heliolisk @ Choice Specs
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Surf
- Hyper Voice

Pidgeot-Mega @ Pidgeotite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Roost
- U-turn

Feraligatr @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Crunch
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Hi there foreversevenfold! You have a nice team here but there are a few flaws. But first and foremost, U-Turn isn't supposed to be a damaging move on Pidgeot, so weakening your Defense isn't work slightly raising the power of a "Utility" move. Since U-Turn is a utility move, I suggest running a Timid Nature instead of a Hasty Nature on Mega Pidgeot.
Next, the niche of using Helioisk in UU is to use it's extremely powerful Hyper Voice, which you're not using. I suggest using Hyper Voice over Grass Knot on Helioisk. This allows you to bypass Substitutes while hitting the opponent extremely hard with a STAB Hyper Voice.
Finally, Empoleon should always run Roar so I suggest running Roar over Toxic on Empoleon. It allows you to rack up Stealth Rocks damage on people that switch while also being able to stop Set-Up Sweepers while racking some damage on them too.

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Defog
- Scald
- Roar

Pidgeot @ Pidgeotite
Ability: Big Pecks
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Roost
- U-turn

Heliolisk @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hyper Voice
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
 
Zop bwoii, solid team but I just have one suggestion. I strongly think that spikes > seed bomb is a viable suggestion on your chesnaught. Paired with empoleons stealth rocks you can really rack up the hazards on your opponent making feraligatr's and pidgeot's jobs a lot easier in powering through teams. I do not really see seed bomb hitting much as you will be wearing down waters with leech seed and drain punch and spiking all day on ground types. You have a cresselia to check crocune so I don't see it being much use their as well so I think the spikes route is your best bet. I 100% agree with the changes that you have already implemented so that's the only other thing I see.

Hope I helped n_n.
 
Looks like a pretty solid team dude! Can't really say anything that's already been addressed. Nice job, and good luck.
 
Decent looking team but it's extremely weak to fire. Entei and darm can pretty much 6-0 your team, and specs chandy ohkos half your team and 2hkos the other half. I would suggest ditching chesnaught for something more fire proof, such as fatmence/bulky waters in general.

Also I'd recommend work up over heat wave on pidge, I mean realistically speaking, you're just gonna click hurricane 95% of the time. The only thing heat wave helps beat are bronzong and doublade, which are not that relevant whatsoever, hurricane can slay forry and as for aggron heat wave isn't going to kill and it can ohko back. With work up it gives your team that little bit extra wallbreaking capability just in case gatr isn't enough for the job.
 
Yifeng said:
Decent looking team but it's extremely weak to fire. Entei and darm can pretty much 6-0 your team, and specs chandy ohkos half your team and 2hkos the other half. I would suggest ditching chesnaught for something more fire proof, such as fatmence/bulky waters in general.

Also I'd recommend work up over heat wave on pidge, I mean realistically speaking, you're just gonna click hurricane 95% of the time. The only thing heat wave helps beat are bronzong and doublade, which are not that relevant whatsoever, hurricane can slay forry and as for aggron heat wave isn't going to kill and it can ohko back. With work up it gives your team that little bit extra wallbreaking capability just in case gatr isn't enough for the job.
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I'll add more later but to add into this Qwilfish is a gkkd physical Fire-type check that can stack spikes
 
Just a quick suggestion to change Heliolisk to Life Orb over Specs since the appeal to Heliolisk is its colorful movepool. Choice specs restricts that.
 
Just adding to the already decent rates here, take the 4 EVs in Mega Pidgeot's attack and put them into SpD, and then make Mega Pidgeot's Attack IVs 0 in order to better take on Foul Play in the odd instance that you do - U-turn power is not the point of Mega Pidgeot.

On that note, ensure that Heliolisk and Empoleon are running 0 attack IVs. Every advantage is a good advantage.

Lastly, I'd recommend doing one of two things: Running Sub on Cress instead of Moonlight in order to add to your opportunities to sweep, and it also prevents slow toxic users from getting the 1up on your win condition. The other STRONG SUGGESTION option is using Reuniclus which takes away the status problem entirely, giving you the viability of running Recover and Magic Guard. You retain your much fighting fighting check, while still taking on Entei one on one, and not fearing a Sacred Fire Burn. In fact, this is the overall benefit to Reuniclus over Cressm as Reuniclus performs better against semi-stall and Stall- in fact, after 2 CM boosts, you can even potentially take on Hydreigon.
 
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On second look, this team is really volt-turn weak itself - replacing Chestnaught with defensive Amoonguss which will give you naturally better special defense, and dish out great support moves in the form of Spore, Stun Spore, and Foul play. In fact, Foul Play can take on +1 Mence and most other physical set up sweepers including Moxie/Guts Boosted Hera. Sludge bomb gives you better opportunities to take on Slurpuff, Florges, and Whims.

Next, Replacing Empoleon with Swampert will assist in the volt switch weakness, especially against choice locked threats. Unfortunately, this will require your mega pidgeot to run defog instead of heat wave, but do not fret, Mega Pidgeot rarely needs the access to Heat Wave, and your team, in general, does not fear the loss of this coverage because u-turn can allow you to pivot into your new defensive pivot amoonguss or other options such such as your new rock/electric counter: Swampert :)
 
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