ORAS OU Mega Sceptile RMT

maxski23

maxski23

Hello, my name is Max and this is my first RMT. I have been playing pokemon for almost my entire life but I have only recently picked up the competitive aspect. I have been playing fairly well with this team on showdown so I decided I would share it. Advice and suggestions are greatly appreciated!.

Gileep (Sceptile-Mega) (M) @ Sceptilite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Giga Drain
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
- Substitute

Sceptile has and still is one of my favorite pokemon, so I decided to make a team based off his mega. The stats are divided to make him a fast hard hitter. I will typically lead off with him and a substitute because it allows me to set up his lightning rod for later in the game and not many people expect it. The substitute also works well because many people will switch out when they see him and that will set up a 2HKO for sceptile. Giga drain is a STAB move to get some health back from the substitute. Dragon Pulse is the main STAB move, used to hit everything giga drain isn't super effective against. Focus Blast is to cover for those ice and steel types for when you have a substitute up.

Capt. Falcon (Talonflame) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Roost

Once I set up my Sceptile I looked at who would work with him the best and ended adding talonflame to the team. Talonflame and sceptile work great together, where they cover eachothers weaknesses. Talonflame takes out all of the bug, grass, and ice types that sceptile is weak against, while sceptile deals with all of the water, rock, and ground types that talonflame has trouble with. Talonflame acts as the physical sweaper/ revenge killer with his high speed stats and gale wings. Brave bird and flare blitz are his STAB moves, roost is for some extra health on enticpated switches and u-turn is to get out of there while giving the opponent some damage. Talonflame is also great bait for electric type moves for sceptile to switch into and get the Spa boost.

Billy Mays (Rotom-Wash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

Not only is rotom-wash one of talonflames worst nightmares, but is also one of his best teammates. I have found that rotom-wash works great with both sceptile and talonflame, given they all cover eachother. He acts as a pivot for talonflame and his u-turn, whenever you have a pokemon in and you need to switch out but you don't know to who, rotom is always a safe choice. His stats are designated to make him very bulky. I have him running a very typical rotom-wash move set. Volt-switch and Hydro pump are his main STABs, his slow speed with volt-switch allows for pokemon to switch in without getting hit. Pain split is to get some health back and will-o-wisp is for anticipated switches.

Titanic (Skarmory) (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Impish Nature
- Brave Bird
- Stealth Rock
- Defog
- Rock Slide

Next I looked for someone with high defense stat to pivot against physical pokemon and ended up with skarmory. Skarmory is a bulky pokemon who can chip away damage for a late game sweep. Skarmory is my lead when I think that sceptile shouldn't lead against a certain team. Skarmory is mainly used to set up and clear hazards. Skarmory, like talonflame, also acts as bait for electric moves for sceptile to switch into and get that Spa bonus.

Tech N9ne (Scizor) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Aerial Ace
- Swords Dance

Now that I've created the core of my team, I looked at which pokemon do the most damage and I found I have nothing to take out fairy's so I added in Scizor. Scizor acts as a fairy killer and revenge killer, with priority bullet punch. Bug bite is the main hard hitting STAB that becomes deadly after the x1.5 boost from technician. Aerial ace is used to get rid of fighting types that are super effective against him. Lastly we have swords dance, which you use when you know you can take a hit or that they are switching, to make him hit even more deadly.

Slim Shady (Gengar) (M) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Icy Wind

Lastly we have gengar. Gengar plays the same role as scizor but is Special and not physical. Sludge bomb is for fairy killing, shadow ball is STAB move, focus blast is to kill ice and steel types, and icy wind is to kill the bulky dragon types like dragonite and garchomp.

Conclusion:
I hope you like my team, I have played around with it a lot, swapping pokemon in and out and I have decided this has been my favourite set. Some pokemon I tried out and decided not to use include: mamoswine, weavile, azumaril, gyarados, excadrill, bisharp, infernape, and breloom. Let me know what you think of my team and if you have any suggestions. Thank you for the help!
 
hello

-I think that a set more offensive to talonflame is more suitable, as this
Talonflame @ Ganlon Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SPD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Natural Gift

natural gift ice helps , good to beat lando-t, tankchomp,gliscor

-Put a physically defensive spread on rotom-w,its better because it help to counter better things like talonflame,Mpinsir,mega zor,lando,exca.
Set here:
Billy Mays (Rotom-Wash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

- i think mega zard x is a threat for you,so i think you can put defensive Landorus-therian over scizor ,it is great because form a volturn core with rotom-w,also reinforces the team defensively :)
Lando set :
Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
- Stealth Rock

- At this point I would say to put spikes on Skarmory, and sodtituire rock slide with roost, I also think that a set of SPD Skarmory is not bad because it helps to better control mega garde, CM clef, mega diancie, replace Brave bird with iron head, you help defeat these threats that I have just listed :)

the skarmory set:
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Spikes
- Defog
- Roost
- Iron Head

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the last piece of advice, I would put the life of gengar orb, because it makes it much feared, I like the idea of using icy wind, helps a lot scep against Tornadus Therians also put sludge wave> sludge bomb, first of all because ago more damage and then makes targetable Ches with the hidden skills
here are the set of all the team with my suggestions:

Gileep (Sceptile-Mega) (M) @ Sceptilite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Giga Drain
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
- Substitute

Talonflame @ Ganlon Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SPD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Natural Gift

Billy Mays (Rotom-Wash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
- Stealth Rock

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Spikes
- Defog
- Roost
- Iron Head

Slim Shady (Gengar) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Wave
- Icy Wind

I hope ive helped you,good luck with the team :)
 
Hello Max! This is an amazing team you have here—it one-sidedly overwhelms the opponent by applying constant pressure and maintaining momentum :]

One addition which would be a huge boon to your team by increasing the pressure already applied by your team and making further use of the abundance of momentum your team also already provides would be Azumarill over Scizor.

The biggest reason to run Azumarill in Scizor's stead is that it's mere presence decreases the team's vulnerability to opposing Magnezone a hundredfold. Magnezone previously posed a huge threat to your team, being capable of trapping and KO'ing two out of the six Pokemon in your team, Skarmory and Scizor. Now, its usefulness to the opponent is limited to trapping only Skarmory. However, Azumarill's usefulness extends far beyond just decreasing a Magnezone weakness. It, too, performs many of Scizor's previous roles, providing powerful priority in Banded Aqua Jet. Furthermore, it effectively and reliably removes fighting types from the game with a Play Rough nuke, just like Scizor did. Azumarill also punshes Tyranitars choice-locked into Pursuit in an attempt to trap and KO Gengar. Most importantly, however, is Azumarill's ability to switch into Keldeo, as all variants of this Pokemon pose a massive threat to the team. It also takes off much pressure from Rotom-W by providing the team with a secondary Heatran switchin. Choice Band is the optimal item for Azumarill here since it still allows Azumarill to hit Keldeo and Heatran, the two main Pokemon it is meant to check, for decent damage when afflicted with an unfortunate Lava Plume or Scald burn. (Also, a minor detail, but you may find the very presence of Mega Sceptile will cause the opponent to be very reluctant to fire Electric-type attacks at Azumarill)

Lastly, running Roost over Rock Slide on Skarmory is suggested. The team would much more appreciate Skarmory's new-found capability to recover, allowing it to take hits far better throughout the game now. Rock Slide will not be missed as Rotom-W is a proper switch to the move's targets regardless. On that note, your team handles Mega Sceptile's Focus Blast targets much better than Focus Blast itself, so that movelsot would much rather appreciate Earthquake, allowing Mega Sceptile to reliably beat Heatran and consistently revenge kill Calm Mind and Assault Vest Raikou.

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Diancie: 218-260 (90.4 - 107.8%)

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Weavile: 169-199 (60.1 - 70.8%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power burned Azumarill Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Keldeo: 291-343 (90 - 106.1%)

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power burned Azumarill Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 228-268 (59.2 - 69.6%)

168 Atk Mega Sceptile Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 344-408 (89.3 - 105.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

I hope this helps and I hope you give my recommendations serious thought. Best wishes on all your games Max!

The EV's on Azumarill allow you to outspeed uninvested pokemon with Base 60 Speed like Sylveon and Clefable while minimizing Stealth Rock and burn damage.

Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 168 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Superpower
- Play Rough
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall

Gileep (Sceptile-Mega) (M) @ Sceptilite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 168 Atk / 88 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Giga Drain
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
- Substitute

Capt. Falcon (Talonflame) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Roost

Billy Mays (Rotom-Wash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

Titanic (Skarmory) (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Impish Nature
- Brave Bird
- Stealth Rock
- Defog
- Roost

Slim Shady (Gengar) (M) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Icy Wind

A little replay showing the effectiveness of the Voltturn core made with Talonflame and Rotom-W and how the team applies pressure and maintains momentum until it wins. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-322117262
 
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Hey max, cool team! A good first team for sure, I'm excited that you decided to join the competitive community!
A lot of what I say may have been said up there^ but let's begin.
Threats to your team:
1.) Electric Types look like huge issues to your team! Mega-Manectric handles your entire team, Nasty Plot Thundurus can set up on most of your team, and even something like Sub CM Raikou is a massive threat. This is a problem because it is common for teams to carry an electric type, and if you are not prepared accordingly, you can be easily swept away. Because of this, I feel it is almost mandatory for you to have a Ground Type on your team. I understand you have a Mega-Sceptile with Lightning Rod, but that is simply not enough - especially if your opponent is good enough to just play around that, or predict you and hit Sceptile with an HP-Ice, OHKO-ing it. For your team, I recommend Hippowdon.
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Hippowdon over Scizor simply because I don't see a real reason for Scizor. Your team is not incredibly weak to fairys by any means, you have a Skarmory and a Talonflame. You may be thinking, how can a Hippowdon check these Electric Types because they always carry HP Ice, and whereas this is true, a mixed Hippowdon only takes:
252 SpA Mega Manectric Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 154-182 (36.6 - 43.3%)
This means any damage something such as Mega Manectric would do to you, you could Slack Off. Not only would Hippowdon add a much needed Electric Immunity, but it would also grant you the ability to use Stealth Rocks, which your Mega-Sceptile appreciates, because usually that extra 12-24% is just enough for Mega-Sceptile to pick up those KOs. Mixed Hippowdon Set:

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 248 HP / 144 Def / 116 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Slack Off
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

I have Stone Edge > Whirlwind/Toxic because your team looks fairly weak to Talonflame once Rotom is gone. I suppose, you can change that if you feel it is being set-up upon way too often, and you would prefer one of the other two.
Fixes to your team:
Gengar = Life Orb > Black Sludge unless you are using some sort of Substitute / Will-O-Wisp / Disable Gengar, Black Sludge is simply not needed. Gengar is not a pokemon that wants to stick around for awhile if you are running the offensive variant. The extra 30% damage increase is very nice against opposing pokemon that normally would not die.
Skarmory = Roost > Rock Slide Although it may seem like a great idea to run Rock Slide to lure in opposing Talonflames, the truth of the manner is that it just isn't a good idea. Rock Slide does not even OHKO a Talonflame, and provided the Tflame is not choiced, once you surprise it once it can simply Roost stall you. You have Rotom-W for Talonflame, and now even a Stone Edge Hippowdon, so Rock Slide simply is not viable.
Iron Head > Brave Bird since Skarmory is going to be one of your main fairy checks, it would be logical to use Iron Head instead of Brave Bird just to have something to use against opposing Diancies and Clefables.
Taunt/Whirlwind > Stealth Rock Having both Stealth Rocks and Defog on the same pokemon is very counter intuitive. The reason i'm leaving this decision between Taunt and Whirlwind up to you is for your personal taste. Personally, I may choose Taunt to ensure that you be some opposing Fairy types 1v1, such as non fireblast/flamethrower Clefable. Otherwise, Clefable can just T-wave you and suddenly you lose 1v1 to it.
Alternatively you can use Whirlwind to prevent pokemon such as Charizard-X from setting up on you, it's up to you, really.
SpD Skarm > Def Skarm The majority of fairies roaming around in OU are specially offensive fairys, and the physical fairies(Azumarill) you already wall to death. By being Mixed/SpD you can ensure that opposing Diancies, Sylveons, and Gardevoirs can not 2HKO you with their STAB fairy type moves. Due to Skarmory's already high Def, and my next change on the team, I feel it would be more viable to run SpD Skarm.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 112 Def / 148 SpD
Careful Nature
- Taunt/Whirlwind
- Defog
- Roost
- Iron Head

Rotom-W = I can tell you have been showdown-ed, meaning some of your EV spreads are just showdown suggested.. This is okay with many pokemon but with some, these spreads are extinct. The clearly more viable spread in todays metagame is Def Rotom-W. So just swap your SpD Ev's to Def and you're good to go.
I hope you consider these changes, and I hope you consider checking me out! Thanks for reading, see you around!
 
just wanted to give my own input and not diminish others' arguments, but on this specific team, SpDef Rotom-W is greatly appreciated as it not only checks Talonflame by sheer virtue of typing, but it also makes an extremely safe switch-in to Tornadus-Therian, a huge threat to the team and to pre-Mega Sceptile. Furthermore, it functions as a safe blind-switchin to Electrics when it is too risky to switch mega Sceptile in or before Sceptile Mega-Evolves.
also, from my own experience with this specific team, black sludge is a really nice item for gengar as it needs to come in consistently to check such pokemon as mega altaria and celebi, especially when the opponent's stealth rock is still on the field, limiting talonflame's ability to do so. Gengar still nets the KO on ttar with focus blast without black sludge, and not much is lost compared to the longevity both gengar and the team needs.

252 SpA Gengar Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 352-416 (103.2 - 121.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Thank you for everyones input, I will try out everyones suggestions. I have one question for krakatoa, what are your thoughts of a belly drum azumaril instead of a banded azumaril. I personally love belly drum azumaril and have found him very deadly and fun to play with on other times i have used on showdown.
 
So they say that electric types pose a huge problem, but it actually boils down to sheer predictions. Electric types aren't a problem as M-Sceptile would absolutely love a SpAtk boost from T-Bolts and Volt Switches. You have a Stealth Rocker in Skarm so the fire birds shouldn't be a problem. I would replace Aerial Ace on Scizor for Superpower as it lures Magnezone and Heatran. Scizor isn't weak to fighting because he is also a bug type, making him only weak to fire. Anyways, I would also Choice Band that Scizor due to his role on the team. Other than that, I would do a Giga Drain Gengar because it is increasing durability and helps handle water types. So in general

Scizor @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
Evs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SpDef
Adamant
-Bug Bite
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower
-Knock Off

Gengar @ Black Sludge/Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Evs: 252 SpAtk/252 Spe/4 Def
Timid
-Giga Drain
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Wave
-Dazzling Gleam/Focus Blast/Icy Wind
 
I looked over this team again and I have concluded that you have created one of the greatest M-Sceptile teams possible. I have spent forever looking for perfect partners for my favorite Pokemon and this team is it. I commend you for this and it is now my favorite. Keep up the great work.
 
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