Most Underrated Sweeper?

Aipom

Okay, my last thread failed... so:
instead of looking at the best sweeper, let's look at sweepers that work but are underused. Now not the tier UU, but any Pokemon that has sweeping potential that you don't see that often.

in My opinion:

Staraptor@ChoiceBand
Jolly
Intimidate
252Att/252Spe/4HP

Brave Bird
Close Combat
Return
U-turn

This thing is a beast. High Speed, Good Attack, Excellent movepool.
Intimidate is a great trait as a starter, or just for revenge killing, which is it's main role.
Two stab moves, and return is great for zapdos killing. Close Combat is great type coverage for darks and normal types, it can also hit T-Tar really well. U-Turn for scouting and....

I've taken half a team out with this several times, so it works. Try this over Salamence for a change!
 
This isn't Firebot...

Anyways I think Absol is with the SD or Scarf set. I use to work wonder with Scarf Absol when Scarf-Gengar was rare. Even with the boom of Scarf-Gengar Absol still surprises thinks like Garchomp when it gets KO'd.

With any set, Super Luck always makes the opponent mad.
 
This thread has a bit more potential. I would say the most underestimated sweeper is TechiTop.

In case you don't know what it is:

Hitmontop @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Adamant Nature
EVS: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
- Close Combat
- Fake Out
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Punch

The number of Pokemon it takes out is simply incredible. 60 BP attack followed right after a 90 BP attack which are boosted by Life Orb and Max Attack investement is just really cool.
 
Staraptor is a very awesome sweeper. =) It has a useful ability and has high powered STAB attacks including the cool move Close Combat. I agree it's underrated. Although it has weak Special Defense. =/

Technician Top is great. I suggest giving it an EV spread of 232 HP / 252 Atk / 20 Def / 6 Spe.

Outspeeds no Speed Skarmory, gets max attacks, and more importantly hits 299 HP to reduce Life Orb recoil.
 
Anyway I have another one and that is Ursaring. With the right support, Ursaring can quite easily sweep a team. I used a simple team of Wobb/Dugtrio/Magnezone/Weavile/Ursaring/Zapdos and Ursaring was very dangerous, especially with trapping gengars and infernapes while paralyzing everyone else then bringing out quick feet ursaring to win the game.
 
Same could be said about every physical sweeper...

Choice Specs Omastar, with Rain Dance, Hydro Pump is killer and 2HKOs Bold Blissey 100% of the time with Stealth Rock down.
 
I'm agreeing with Technician Hitmontop. I've been on the receiving end of one before, and it wasn't pretty.

Wasn't Mamoswine underrated for a while?
 
Mamoswine was UU for a while and a bit underrated. However I think even in UU people realized he was a tough sweeper with Ice Shard and Earthquake, saw how good he functioned in OU and has become a top sweeper. I wouldnt call him a severely underrated pokemon at the start of his pokemon career but yes he was a bit underrated
 
Life Orb Mixcanine can be lethal with Extremespeed/Flare Blitz/HP Ice-Electric-Ground/Dragon Pulse-Overheat. Solid defenses especially with Intimidate and real wall-breaking ability. Kinda Ape-like though...
 
I must say as powerful as he is, Alakazam is underrated. People seem to believe just because pursuit is there Alakazam is worthless. And because steels/psychics are good counters without HP fire. Alakazam is also shadowed by gengar. Given a chance, Alakazam can wreck through a lot of teams.
 
Also, I find Kabutops in rain is just deadly. I've only seen like 3, but in UU it's a beast. Shame for the 4x grass weakness.
 
Except that he runs X-Scissor after a Swrods Dance which will ohko almost if not all of the grass pokemon in uu. Even in ou celebi is ohkoed by it. Rain Dance and Sandstorm both benefit it in different ways.
 
I used Scarf-tops on a Sandstorm team just to take out Celebi and found it really effective. Another good one is Exeggutor. A monster in the sun with base 125 Sp.Atk and Sleep Powder.
 
Well, Sand is okay, but a swift swim boost shoots it's speed to 500+.
It does also have brick break... not to mention Swords and Rock Polish.
 
Do I smell a Kabutops fad coming on...
With Scarf and neutral nature he easily outspeeds Gengar and destroys it with Night Slash. Dominates Gyarados too, coming in on a DD and Stone Edging it back to hell.
 
Choiced Banded Rock Head Relicanth w/ Sandstorm/Stream active. It already has excellent defense, and with Sandstorm special attacks don't do as much as you like. Head Smash without recoil is awesome. Aqua Tail does lots of damage to anything that doesn't resist it and EQ has great coverage anyway. Double-Edge also has no recoil, and puts a large dent in Breloom. It requires a lot of team support and is really only good in OU (Sand Stream & Trick Room) but it leaves a large dent in anything that isn't expecting it, coming off of an attack stat that apporaces 460. It's not pretty.
 
mawile. ive swept OU teams with it. SD up, brick break for blissey, iron head for stab and the occasional flinch, and suckerpunch for faster guys.
also really fun to sweep with a mawile because its fucking awesome.
 
I have to agree with KinglerDude on this one. After delving into the UU metagame, I found TechniTop to be amazing. He seemed to dominate UU when I used him on each of my teams(Not trying to start a discusion on his tier status), and he would probably also perform very well in OU, although with Deoxys-s being present, they do both fill similar roles, although Hitmontop's is a little different, which means he has some competition.
 
I agree with the TechniTop. I used one on a stall team with toxic spikes and it cleaned up very efficiently late game with a guaranteed priority flinch move, followed right after by another priority move. Also saved me a few games on Shoddy when I let a sweeper get too many stat ups, as Hitmontop can just go in and wreck frail sweepers.
 
Probably Sub/DD Lapras. Poeple often don't have a counter for it and by the time they figure out what's going on it already has 3 DD's. Blissey really fails against it which is nice since people love to switch Blissey into Lapras.
 
I agree people should see what Hitmontop can do. Although it's walled commonly by Starmie, Slowbro, Gliscor, Cresselia, it provides great resistances with it's Fighting type. It can also OHKO Tyranitar and Lucario with Mach Punch. So you can see it as a counter to both of those. Although ExtremeSpeed will hurt a lot after a Swords Dance.

I don't see why so many people don't use it. I got one from Anti (His is awesome bred by Storm FTW) and used it on a team in the past it helpd me overcome some situations.

Well if you predict well enough and use it well it works great.
 
PriorityTop is overrated. He is easy to predict and gets walled rather easily by numerous bulky UU pokes. Even Rotom which isn't bulky at all does extremely well against it, totally rendering him useless with WoW. T-wave will still have a 25% paralysis chance, even if all his moves have priority. I believe Hitmonchan is a far better sweeper with Agility.

Since this isn't about UU... I'd have to agree with the first post - Staraptor hits extremely hard, and with Intimidate it's even more useful and easier to bring in. I've never seen a Life Orb one before, it could cause a lot of damage without being outpredicted.
 
I second the Alakazam notion. I use this one my Shoddy team, but I stuck with trickspecs for Wifi.

Alakazam @ Leftovers
Timid or Hasty Nature
24 HP, 252 Satk, 10 SpD, 224 Spe

Substitute
Encore
HP Fire/Bug/Focus punch
Psychic

This thing is amazing. Blissey can't touch this, it basically gets you a free Substitute, and forces it to switch out or die. It comes in, you psychic first, set up a substitute on the status move, then encore. You get around 8 turns to pelt it with psychic if it stays in. Re-apply Encore if it runs out, then it can't heal or anything. If it leaves to Weavile or Tyranitar, you can run away freely because the sub saves you from pursuit. Hidden power is your decision, bug for darks, psychics and mostly Celebi, or you can choose fire for steels, still hits Celebi and weavile, but not Tyranitar or Starmie.

Encore's usefulness doesn't stop at messing up Blissey. A skilled player can fend off dangerous stat-uppers by switching in on a boosting move, Encoring them, and setting up a sub while they run away. I have averted many Garchomps, DDtar, Togekiss, Azelf, Snorlax, (the speed is enough to outrun Jolly DDtar after one DD if you were wondering) from sweeping me by doing this.

Focus punch could be fun for smacking around Blissey, but coming off of 50 base attack, it won't hurt much. It can punish Tyranitar and Weavile, but only if you have a substitute up.



Of course, there's always good ol' Trick Specs, from the analysis. It hits very hard, but unless you predict Blissey coming in, it's hard to get the specs onto it. If you do, it becomes a useless vegetable, and Alakazam can pummel the team with impunity.


In short, the presence of Weavile (who is still dropping in usage!) shouldn't deter you from using Alakazam. An awesome disruptive movepool, including Encore, Disable, Trick, Thunderwave, Skill Swap and Taunt, an OK special movepool with STAB Psychic, Shadow Ball, Grass Knot/Energy Ball, Focus Blast, and Hidden Power. It also has access to Recover and Calm Mind, if you need it.
 
Jynx is another one I severely underestimated. Although it was in UU, Jynx completely killed by team of walls. all were 2hkoed by her and the one that wasnt was put to sleep. Jynx definitely is one of those pokemon you think you can kill in an instance but can sweep your team.
 
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