Movepool Revisions - Krilowatt

[Rising_Dusk]

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Introduction:

This is the thread where we will be revising Krilowatt's movepool. All aspects of Krilowatt's movepool, including TM moves, Move Tutor moves, Level-Up moves, and Egg Moves will be revised according to the limits listed below and the requirements listed in this process guide article. All process details for the revisions can be found in this thread.

Base Stat Rating & Movepool Limits:

This is where the BSR Overall Rating and Movepool Limit are decided. In accordance with this process guide article, all CAPs must have a Overall BSR limit that is balanced by the maximum of that CAP's Very Good Move (VGM) limit. The calculator for the Overall BSR of a Pokemon can be found here.

Krilowatt's Overall BSR: 361

Krilowatt's Resulting Movepool Size Limit: 65
Krilowatt's Resulting VGM Limit: 30
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Current Movepool:

Reference: Jibaku's Winning Movepool
Move Count: 107
VGM Count: 54
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Level-Up Moves

Total: 17
VGM: 7

H Night Slash
H Sand Tomb
– Bubble
– Charge
10. Spark
12. Detect
15. Copycat
19. Aqua Jet
24. Discharge
30. Imprison
37. Confuse Ray
43. Haze
48. Guillotine
52. Perish Song
55. Heart Swap
57. Zap Cannon

TM/HM Moves

Total: 57
VGM: 28

TM02 - Dragon Claw
TM03 - Water Pulse
TM06 - Toxic
TM07 - Hail
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM23 - Iron Tail
TM24 - Thunderbolt
TM25 - Thunder
TM26 - Earthquake
TM27 - Return
TM28 - Dig
TM29 – Psychic
TM31 – Brick Break
TM32 - Double Team
TM34 - Shock Wave
TM40 - Aerial Ace
TM41 - Torment
TM42 - Facade
TM43 - Secret Power
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM46 - Thief
TM49 - Snatch
TM50 - Overheat
TM54 - False Swipe
TM55 - Brine
TM56 - Fling
TM58 - Endure
TM66 - Payback
TM67 - Recycle
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM70 - Flash
TM72 - Avalanche
TM73 - Thunder Wave
TM77 - Psych Up
TM78 – Captivate
TM79 – Dark Pulse
TM81 – X-Scissor
TM82 - Sleep Talk
TM83 - Natural Gift
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Pluck
TM90 - Substitute
TM91 - Flash Cannon
HM01 - Cut
HM03 - Surf
HM05 - Whirlpool
HM06 - Rock Smash
HM07 - Waterfall
HM08 - Rock Climb

Egg Moves

Total: 11
VGM: 4

Egg Groups:
Water 1
Fairy

Moves
Ice Shard - Lapras, Seel, Dewgong, Snorunt, Glalie, Froslass
Mirror Coat – Corsola, Squirtle, Wartortle, Blastoise
Counter – Breloom, Squirtle (3), Wartortle (3), Blastoise (3)
Mind Reader – Breloom, Poliwrath
Draco Meteor – Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Kingdra
Sheer Cold – Lapras, Glalie
Poison Fang - Mawile
Flail - Feebas
Follow Me - Clefairy, Clefable
Metronome - Clefairy, Clefable
Me First - Slowpoke

Move Tutor Moves

Total: 23
VGM: 15

AncientPower
Bug Bite
Fury Cutter
ThunderPunch
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Bounce
Dive
Swift
Aqua Tail
Outrage
Knock Off
Sucker Punch
Magnet Rise
Earth Power
Helping Hand
Magic Coat
Low Kick
Signal Beam
Icy Wind
Gastro Acid
Zen Headbutt
Role Play

New Movepool:

Move Count: 65
VGM Count: 30
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Level-Up Moves

Total: 15
VGM: 7

- Ice Shard
– Bubble
– Charge
5. ThunderShock
11. Confuse Ray
17. Imprison
24. Mirror Coat
28. Bubblebeam
33. Counter
39. Copycat
46. Heart Swap
51. Discharge
57. Guillotine
63. Thunder
68. Muddy Water

TM/HM Moves

Total: 36 (1 repeat)
VGM: 19 (1 repeat)

TM03 Water Pulse
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Shock Wave
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM56 Fling
TM58 Endure
TM66 Payback
TM67 Recycle
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM78 Captivate
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM90 Substitute
HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM05 Whirlpool
HM07 Waterfall

Egg Moves

Total: 7 (2 repeats)
VGM: 2 (2 repeats)

Egg Groups:
Water 1
Fairy

Moves:
Mirror Coat – Corsola, Blastoise, Mantine, Swampert, Milotic, Gastrodon
Counter – Breloom, Blastoise
Mind Reader – Breloom, Poliwrath
Sheer Cold – Lapras, Dewgong, Walrein, Glalie
Follow Me - Clefable, Togekiss
Metronome - Clefable, Togekiss
Me First - Slowbro

Legal Egg Combinations:
Follow Me + Metronome (Togekiss)
Mind Reader (Breloom)
Sheer Cold (Lapras)
Me First (Slowbro)

Counter + Mirror Coat are legal with any of the above combinations
because they both appear in the Level-Up Movepool as well.

Move Tutor Moves

Total: 10
VGM: 5

Fury Cutter
ThunderPunch
Ice Punch
Dive
Swift
Earth Power
Helping Hand
Low Kick
Signal Beam
Icy Wind

Justification:

CAP10 kicked off with concept submissions on February 28, 2010 and ended its playtest period May 21, 2010. During this period, Latias was considered OU. Krilowatt was given some of the best stats of any Pokemon we've ever made, and a movepool easily winding up with the absolute most total and Very Good Moves (VGM) that we'd ever given a Pokemon. It was absolutely clear after Krilowatt that power creep was an enormous problem, and it was he that spurred the movepool revisions. The particularly difficult thing with Krilowatt is that with his base stats being so high, he is very, very limited in how many moves he can have.

Anyway, Krilowatt was a tough revision because he's supposed to actually be able to counter a bunch of the OU metagame when teched to, but he can't beat everything at once. Because of this, during the movepool stage, we gave him a ton of individual tools to just beat anything he came against. In revising him, I had to cut off a whopping 43 total moves and 24 VGMs, which meant that virtually all of that extraneous coverage had to go.

In revising and cutting the coverage, I focused on maintaining a few key aspects of Krilowatt's competitive and flavor movepool:

• Earth Power / Earthquake
• Counter / Mirror Coat
• Payback for Latias / Rotom-A
• Moves for double battle purposes (ie. Follow Me, Helping Hand)
• No Charge Beam / Light Screen based on the TL's in-process wishes (despite being Type-Move requirements)
• Ice Shard for pinch countering of Speed-boosted Dragon-types that Krilowatt could use help with

Furthermore, there were many things that were completely eliminated from Krilowatt's movepool that might have been thought to be a great or cool idea at the time of making him. (Because we were obsessed with giving him every tool possible)

• Fire-type attacks
• Dragon-type attacks
• Bug-type attacks
• Psychic-type attacks
• Strange and generally useless offensive / utility moves (ie. Aqua Jet / Sucker Punch / Magnet Rise / Knock Off)
• All Dark-type VGMs except Payback
• All Fighting-type VGMs except Low Kick

In lieu of this and with a bit of shuffling to keep the flavor and level-up movepools interesting, Krilowatt's new movepool is actually incredibly focused and modest. He maintains all of the Water-, Ice-, and Electric-type coverage he always had, but now must actually use Hidden Power Fire if he wants a Fire-type attack. Thunder, Mirror Coat, and Counter are all repeated moves on the Level-Up movepool so that Krilowatt has something to do as it levels up, while Ice Shard is now a Heart Scale move in the place of the now-gone Sand Tomb and Night Slash. I also got rid of Zap Cannon on Krilowatt because I put Thunder as a level-up move. As cute as Mind Reader + Zap Cannon was, I had to cut it to have his level-up movepool make sense. He also needed another upper-level Water-type move to balance his typing, so he now gets Muddy Water (precedent set by Vaporeon), which is basically a crappier Surf with a chance to lower accuracy. I also gave him Bubblebeam in his level-up list because he starts with Bubble and needed an intermediate Water-type move.

Anyway, I think that I have finished Krilowatt and really brought the little shrimp down to size. I welcome comments and criticisms, however, and hope that I've demonstrated exactly what is expected of these revisions! I have attached to this thread some excel spreadsheets I whipped up for Krilowatt that can be applied to other CAP movepools for revisions or just building movepools in general. They helped me organize what was needed on Krilowatt and count up all the individual parts. Cheers!

 

[Rising_Dusk]

I have finished and justified Krilowatt's revised movepool. I now encourage other senior members of the community to post and provide their thoughts on it.

 

[Jibaku]

I like the new movepool, but I would really like it if you left Copycat on the movelist. Copycat is an amazing and fun gimmick move that could expand Krilowatt's role if the user wishes so (call me crazy for defending a gimmick move). Also, you have one move count remaining =).

I'll comment on the rest of the movepool later if I notice anything significant missing but for now, good job ^_^.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

I can appreciate Copycat, and I do have room in the movepool for one more move. I have added Copycat back as a part of the level-up movepool. I'm happy to know that you're pleased with my rendition of the movepool, though, that means a lot!

 

[Rising_Dusk]

This revision is being locked and marked as completed.