my first real ou team

cardshark000

Machamp (F) @ Lum Berry Trait: No Guard
EVs: 240 HP / 248 Atk / 8 Spd / 12 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- DynamicPunch
- Payback
- Ice Punch
- Bullet Punch

just your standard machamp lead, with great type coverage with dynamicpunch, payback, and ice punch, bullet punch works perfectly for me to kill those pokemon that are right on the edge of dying. also, this pokemon has great synergy with weavile, who can switch into a psychic aimed at machamp.

Gyarados (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
the regular dragon dance gyarados set, with waterfall stab hitting anything that stone edge and earthquake just cant damage, and vice versa.

Electivire (F) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Motor Drive
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- ThunderPunch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch


the combo of gyarados and electivire is killer for those who aren't prepared, as with these moves, 13 types are hit for super effective damage, and the rest are severely damaged by any of electivire's moves that hit for neutral.

Parasect (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Spore
- Stun Spore
- Knock Off
- Seed Bomb


while parasect may seem a bit unusual for an ou team, it's synergy with the rest of the team is perfect. with a quadruple resistance to ground type moves, it can switch into any earth powers/ earthquakes threatening electivire or heatran and then put them to sleep with spore. then if my opponent switches, they'll eat a stun spore, thus effectively neutralizing a third of their team. plus knock off gets rid of leftovers/ choice items, and seed bomb turns this into the perfect counter for bulky waters, especially swampert

Heatran (F) @ Shuca Berry
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock
- Hidden Power [Electric]


with parasect, i can switch in from any fire type or pokemon that knows a fire type move, to recieve a free boost from flash fire. then i can either use earth power for opposing heatrans or the aforementioned fire type, fire blast for extremely powerful stab, or stealth rock if i predict a switch. also hidden power electric is a nice little surprise for any water type who thinks thay can safely switch in.

Weavile (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
- Night Slash


finally i have weavile, who is a fantastic revenge killer/late game sweeper, and my main counter for anything psychic/dragon. with pursuit i can play a deadly little mind game with my opponents, and either ko with it or night slash. then ice shard is a nice priority move which can do nice chinks of damage to anything weak to it, and low kick, which rounds out coverage quite well and hits many pokemon, especially the dreaded tyranitar hard.

all in all, this team focuses on shifting between pokemon for resistances and boosts with parasect covering ground weaknesses and providing handy status, which can switch to heatran for a fire type move who can either switch to gyarados or parasect for ground or water moves, gyarados can switch to electivire for electric moves, who can either switch to gyarados or parasect. also, electivire covers parasect's quadruple weakness to flying.

please give me some ideas for threats to this team and also give me some advice for alternate ev spreads. thanks for the help!
 
First and foremost, very solid team you've got here. Initially looking at the team, it's difficult to find any glaring weaknesses. One thing that I've noticed though, is that your team relies heavy on attacking, and doesn't leave much balance for other things. Adding a wall to your team could help throw off any players that have similar 'all-attacking' teams. For instance, you could give a look at Heatran. While he does have great Sp. Atk., he will naturally have very nice Def. and Sp. Def., and it gives the opponent very little room to improvise. It could be very easy to predict what they're going to switch in.

Your Parasect raises another point. Very solid choice in terms of typing, but overall it doesn't have very great stats. I would suggest taking a look at Breloom, as it's defensive stats are about the same, but it boasts a much more powerful attack stat. It too can learn Spore, which is a great move, and it can even take advantage o it with Focus Punch. At the same time, instead of giving it leftovers, you could give it Poison Heal as it's ability, and then equip it with a Toxic Orb. Breloom's ability will allow it to heal twice as much HP so long as it stays poisoned, and it allows you to free up leftovers for another pokemon that might benefit from it.

Again, I'm kind of picking at details, but it is a very nice team, and I couldn't find any distinct threats. Think about whether or not you want your team to be all attackers though, (The alternate Heatran spread was just an idea to get you thinking), and definitely take a look a Breloom, I think you'd really like it.
 
first of all, thanks for the input. but how exactly would you spread the ev's for heatran to be a wall, but still be able to dish out roughyly the same amount of damage, because frankly, im a bit stumped over that. also, I do like the idea of an all out attacking team, as if i put in a wall, i've found it can be somewhat easy for others to set up on me while if i keep up an attacking pattern, the opponent chooses death or switching and revealing another of their pokemon.

About your point with breloom, the one thing i don't see that it could have going for it is that it can spread around a lot of status. with parasect, it can use spore and stun spore, so it can put status on a lot of the opponents team. also, it's meager stats are still enough to block a surf (or an earthquake for that matter) on the switch from heatran and an ice beam from suicune and other bulky waters, and then i can spore and knock off, crippling either the switch or the bulky water.plus it's typing is perfect for switching into certain attacks/luring a fire type move for heatran to absorb. i just don't see how breloom could fill that role. plus paralyzing the pokemon who's earthquake i switch into with effect spore is a very nice bonus :), so thanks for the idea, but i think parasect is staying until there's another pokemon who can fill it's role.


But any advice about alternate evs/movesets would be greatly appreciated, (and i will be looking into the heatran). Thanks a lot for the advice, and the critique, (the little details are always the hardest to spot.)
 
You might want to put a blissey on your team in place of weavile. You said that it can counter the dragon types with ice shard and tyranitar with low kick and this is all true. But you are forgetting one thing; machamp can do that job with ease as tyranitar is afraid of getting hit with a more powerful dynamicpunch and dragons are also more afraid of an ice punch because even though weavile does get STAB with ice shard, machamp has a better base stat in attack and ice punch is the stronger move. Plus, your parasect and gyarados are mainly going to be hit by special type attacks (mainly fire and electric types) except for the possibility of stone edge so blissey can actually seem worthy on your team. For the rest of your team, I think that is really good and can win against other offensive teams.
 
Metsrule, the only reason weavile is good at its job it is fast, and has ice shard, and as such can easily outrun and ice punch dragons or use ice shard to ko them. Machamp on the other hand is easily outrun and koed by the likes of a 1 D-dance fully offensive dragonite using outrage.
 
i do think that blissey could be a good idea, but like aqueos said, machamp is just to slow to be reliable, and if i put blissey in, i could find it really easy for some pokemon to set up on me, and that can pretty much spell defeat for me. so thanks for the idea, but i just don't think it would work.

also part of point of parasect and gyarados is that they attract fire and electric moves respectively, and then i can just switch to heatran/electivire when i predict them.
 
If you want a bulkier Parasect spread, there's a better way:

Careful nature, 252HP/160Def/96SpD gives you overall higher defensive stats. (thanks, X-Act)

This is a really solid team, but Gyaravire is very predictable - even after the Electivire hype.
Use a Jolly nature on Electivire so you outrun, say, Jolly Lucario, and use Life Orb instead of Expert Belt if you are going for all-physical set. Extra boost in power is welcome, and you don't have to worry too much about losing HP since Electivire can't take hits well.
 
for the electivire, is my team really in a lot of danger from a lucario that i need jolly, because if i had life orb instead of expert belt i might have lost a few battles. also for the parasect, would the ev's still be able to block a surf and ice beam from suicune or vaporeon sets?
 
actually, nvm about parasect, i just realized i had hardy as the nature instead of something beneficial. thanks. also, what exactly do you mean by "gyaravire is predictable", because even when i use it, my opponent rarely has a counter.
 
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