My First Team [OU RMT]

The Art of Stat Boosting [OU RMT]

This is my first time doing a RMT, hope I did everything right. Please feel free to rip it apart and tell me it sucks, I'm relativly new to competative pokemon. Anyway, here's my team :)


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Smeargle (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 96 HP/120 Def/252 Spd/40 SDef
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Spore
- Baton Pass
- Belly Drum

While Smeargle may not boast the speed stat most leads do, it still gets the job done. Using Spore and Focus Sash makes sure the opponent will go to sleep. From there, you can set up Stealth Rock. However, if you happen to outspeed their lead (swampert, metagross, tyranitar; provided they arn't running choice sets) That means you can Belly-Pass. Spore on the first turn, Belly-Drum on the second turn, then Baton Pass to either Scizor or Togekiss (I'll explain later). Either way, Smeargle ensures one of the 2 options are executed, something very few leads can.


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Porygon Z @ Silk Scarf
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Recover
- Tri Attack
- Nasty Plot
- Dark Pulse

What can I say? Besides being one of my favorite pokemon, Porygon Z is a huge threat. Even though it was taken out of OU and put into BL, it still easily has the power to OHKO or 2HKO many pokemon in the OU metagame. Tri-Attack gets boosted to 288 power after Adaptability, STAB, and Silk Scarf. That combined with 405 SAtk, and PoryZ is DEADLY. Throw in a Nasty Plot and maybe a recover, and you have a pretty scary sweeper. After 2 nasty plots, Tri-Attack can even OHKO Blissy. Dark Pulse is there for type coverage. Any type weaknesses in my lineup are usually killed after switching in Porygon Z, even if normal type is not very effective.


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Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Roost
- U-turn
- Bug Bite

Because Scizor is not the lead here, I found moves such as Pursuit were not as important as something like Roost or Bug Bite. Not only is Scizor a great Pokemon by itself (do I really need to explain the moveset?) but if I can pull off a Belly-Pass with Smeargle, you might as well quit. 90 power Bullet Punch, and a 1576 Attack stat. You lose. Even If I can't Belly-Pass, Scizor is well-prepared to hold his own without it.

Also considering
Extremespeed Lucario
Ice Shard Weavile


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Togekiss (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Air Slash
- Roost
- Thunder Wave
- Extremespeed / Nasty Plot

While running the standard Togekiss set in Shoddy Battles, I found that I was using Aura Sphere very rarely. I would only ever use it if I needed to finish off a pokemon with a little more damage than Air Slash. Because of this, I switched it out for Extremespeed. Because of STAB, Extremespeed is boosted to 120 power, nothing to ignore. Togekiss gets a huge help from this, considering it's lack-luster speed. However with the current EVs, Togekiss's Attack is at 122. But the fact that I rarely use the attack balances this out. It's primarily an attack for finishing off opponents and then setting up.

However, If I have battled the player before and know their lineup, and Scizor is getting defeated early on for some reason, I can Belly-Pass to Togikiss as well. This brings his stats to 374 HP, 488 Attack, and 361 Special Defense, a great all around Poke.


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Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Rest
- Calm Mind
- Sleep Talk

This is currently the pokemon I'm least satisfied with. Don't get me wrong, Suicune is a great pokemon, but I mostly chose it just to have a wall and type coverage, nothing else. Nothing exciting about it really. Water type covers most of my major weaknesses, So a bulky water poke like Suicune seemed the logical choice. This is where I'm looking for the most help. Since my favorite pokemon is Relicanth (weird I know) I originally had him in this spot. Relicanth offered good type coverage with a decent attack (STAB Head Smash with no recoil damage) and also ran a Rest + Sleeptalk set: Head Smash, Waterfall, Rest, Sleep Talk. It worked surprisingly well, but I felt as though Suicune could do the job just a bit better. Thoughts?

Also considering
Rest-Talk Relicanth


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Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb

The Ace in the hole. Time and time again, Breloom has saved me from defeat, or even swept an entire team. Love this pokemon to death, nothing else to say here. Standard amazing Breloom.


Closing thoughts:

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For the most part, I tried to pick pokemon that I liked before knowing their moveset. There are a good amount of pokemon that do some of these roles a little better, but I'm glad I chose who I did, It's been pretty effective in Shoddy Battles. My main concerns are Speedy pokemon. None of my pokemon are very fast, and someone like Trick-Scarf Starmie or Rotom could very easily mess up my lineup. Any team is going to have weaknesses, but that's my biggest issue I think. If only there were a good fast, bulky, water pokemon XD

Also, if you could help me think of a name for my lineup, that'd be awesome :naughty:



A little about me :nerd:

While I have been playing pokemon for most of my life, since Red and Blue, I just got into competative pokemon within the last year. Love your guy's site, very very helpful. This is my first lineup that I've been very satisfied with, enough to finally sign up. Don't worry, I'll be sticking around though, looks like you guys have a good forum set up here.



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O.k ill give this a shot.
Firstly if you opponient lets you BP a Belly drum boost then they are pretty stupid as a scizor (#1 used pokemon in OU) Bullet Punchs you before you can baton pass and kills you and you get no SR up. Scizor also killes your Porygon Z as well do you do have slight issues with scizor currently on your team.
I suggest you run a Lum Berry Metagross lead to allow you to get up SR more relyably and for you to drop Porygon Z for a Specs Latias which hits very hard in OU and is more bulkier than Porygon Z.

I suggest a Offensive Suicune over your currnet one with a bulky spread and leftovers over Life Orb, this gives your team more offensive and it cam sweep very well.

Since you are not BPing scizor any boosts then a Bulky SD set can work on SCizr however, I personally prefer the CB set which gives you a nice power boost and the ability to check threats

Your togekiss seems wierd as it seems to be a mix of several different sets. I suggest a Mixmence here to help you break through stall

Have a NIce Day!
 
I tried NOT to run a team with all the most common poke's the metagame. you suggested I replace the ones that arnt as common with Metagross, Latias, and Salamance :S

that being said, I appreciate the help. I know what your saying about The Belly Drum, but it has worked a couple times! Mostly I just set up SR though :D

I think I might just switch out ExtremeSpeed on Togikiss for Nasty Plot..

I see what you're saying about Suicune. I originally had a Sub-Dance Kingra instead of Scizor, which provided for a little more Physical Power. I might try an offensive suicune as you stated, but then wouldn't I be shorthanded when it comes to defenses?


thanks :)
 
I am sorry I did not realsie this RMT does not want to use common pokemon, is it in the RMT somewhere and I missed it???

But seriously you are running a Scizor which is the NO 1 OU pokemon in the metagame (what conclusions am I to draw from this hmm?

Anyway you lose out on some bulky with the Suicune moveset change but since you said that you were unhappy with it maybe making it a bit more offensive fix's whatever probles you had with it. The set is a common one now though and many top players do use the set so it is deffinatly worth a try.

And just to be sure....
are you ignoring the advice I gave you about scizor, Smergle Porygon Z etc etc? It okey if you do but I really think that a Belly Drum lead is not going to work competivaly at all. Scizor beats it to well and like I said, if you manage it then your opponient must really have issues with the team.
 
I kind of mentioned it in the Closing statement where I said "There are a good amount of pokemon that do some of these roles a little better, but I'm glad I chose who I did, It's been pretty effective in Shoddy Battles." But I guess that could be interpreted in a couple ways, didn't mean to offend. I know I'm running Scizor, but what I meant was I don't want the whole team to be extremely common pokes, otherwise I feel it's no different that anyone elses. It seems that these days every one and their mother runs Slamance, Latias, Scizor, and Metagross.

anyway

On the topic of Smeargle; I'm not ignoring the advice, I'm open to changes, all I'm saying is it actually worked a couple times on smoggon. If I keep trying it and it turns out to be kind of a dud (most likely will) i'll maybe change up the moveset or possibly Smeargle all-together.
 
Why Silk Scarf of PZ? On paper that seems really well, but i suggest you switch it to LO, so you have an easier chance dealing with pesky gengar and ROTOM. Also, how is pursuit not as important as bug bite? yea ok bug bite will destroy the berries they're holding, but the killing power of pursuit is extemely beneficially to your team considering that you only have one dark move in PZ. This will effectively allow you to deal with specs Latias who can put a major dent in your team as well as subgengar. Also despite my previous statement of putting LO on PZ, have you considered putting a choice scarf on it? you really have no effecitve revenge killer.
you have basically NO dragon coverage on this team, nor do you have a real gyar check. a mixmence will obliterate you with his combination of attacks and a bulkygyara will jsut DD up and sweep. Consider changing recover and NP for ice beam and tbolt to deal the those pokes respectively
 
i have a porygon z on shoddy. put agility isted of nasty plot. why?? because then he out speeds everythign bar scarfers. i use agility, tri attack, HP fight, T-Blot. Your set egst walled by tyarnitar and hetran and othre rock-steels. mine goes thru. :)
 
both good suggestions. I was thinking about switching up my suicune set up, allowing it to have ice beam so I have something to deal with dragons.

I also like the idea of Agility on PZ. If it were up to me, I would get rid of Dark Pulse, and then as a result add Pursuit back to Scizor.

I'll definitely be trying these out tonight, keep the suggestions coming :)
 
okay. The Smeargle Drum set worked sometimes, but I definitely need a more reliable set. I switched out Smeargle and Scizor all together, and it's been DESTROYING in shoddy battles.

I feel like I should just make a new thread with the changes, since they are pretty drastic.

y/n?
 
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Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Rest
- Calm Mind
- Sleep Talk

This is currently the pokemon I'm least satisfied with. Don't get me wrong, Suicune is a great pokemon, but I mostly chose it just to have a wall and type coverage, nothing else. Nothing exciting about it really. Water type covers most of my major weaknesses, So a bulky water poke like Suicune seemed the logical choice. This is where I'm looking for the most help. Since my favorite pokemon is Relicanth (weird I know) I originally had him in this spot. Relicanth offered good type coverage with a decent attack (STAB Head Smash with no recoil damage) and also ran a Rest + Sleeptalk set: Head Smash, Waterfall, Rest, Sleep Talk. It worked surprisingly well, but I felt as though Suicune could do the job just a bit better. Thoughts?

Also considering
Rest-Talk Relicanth


Yay someone is finally using CroCune, all the other suicunes ive seen are freakin offensive ones so good for you for sticking with this set :)

anyway on to the rate, this team is very high risk high return so heres the problems i have with it

-The Defensive ev's are not nessecary in smeargle
-Your lead is completely shut town by TrickScarf lead (starmie)
-and if you do baton pass +6 to scizor what would be the point in U-turning out? cus you'd lose all the boosts why not try

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Scizor (M) @ Leftovers/LifeOrb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 244 HP/252 Atk/ 12Spe
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Roost
- Pursuit/BrickBreak
- Bug Bite


I would change u-turn to pursuit or brick break, your choice and i think that life orb is a bot of an overkill but it is still viable. Juggled the Ev's around so you can outspeed other Scizor's who run 8 Spe Ev's and plonked the rest in HP

Good Luck (:
 
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