My new Soul Silver team

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Uxie @ Leftovers
Impish
252 HP / 104 Def / 152 SpDef
~ Magic Coat
~ U-turn
~ Stealth Rock
~ Thunder Wave

Uxie has turned out to be a pretty good lead. The defensive ev's are to help cover attacks from both sides. She almost always gets a layer of stealth rocks down because of Magic Coat. This is a neat little move I found on Smogon. If I predict a Taunt, I'll use Magic Coat and taunt them instead. Same with hypnosis. Thunder Wave is for whoever they send in or Gyarados, Machamp, Metagross, etc. U-turn is to cause a little bit of damage and switch out.

Bug - Heatran, Machamp
Ghost - Heatran
Dark - Machamp, Heatran


Machamp @ Leftovers (No Guard)
Adament
240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
~ Ice Punch
~ DynamicPunch
~ Stone Edge
~ Payback

Machamp is just plain awsome with his ability. The 16 speed ev's is to outspeed Blissey. I decided on Ice punch to help w/ Salamence. Stone Edge is for flyers. Payback are for ghosts who would otherwise give me trouble. And ofcourse, DynamicPunch. This must be one of the top 5 moves in the game. The only way it doesn't confuse you is you have Slowbro.

Psychic - Uxie, Latias, Heatran
Flying - Heatran

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Surf
~ Hidden Power Electric

This is probably my favorite pokemon dating back to the original games, so she's always on my teams. Vappy is here to provide some wish support and to keep Gyarados, Metagross, Skarmory, Infernape, and Heatran at bay. Wish cushions the blow when you switch to a counter. It's pretty bulky so it's not hard to get one off.

Electric - Gliscor
Grass - Heatran

Heatran @ Leftovers
Modest
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Flamethrower
~ Earth Power
~ Substitute
~ Toxic

This is straight from Smogon and has worked wonders. I love it when they send a Vaporeon or other water. Heatran is one of the best Pokemon at forcing switches in the game. Because of this, Substitute is a great move choice, as it eliminates the guesswork often needed to nail his switch-ins. Fire Blast and Earth Power provide respectable coverage, and Toxic really hurts the many bulky Water-type Pokemon who tend to switch into Heatran.

Ground - Latias, Uxie, Gliscor
Water - Vaporeon
Fighting - Latias, Uxie

Latias @ Expert Belt <---to fake a Choice Scarf
Timid
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Grass Knot
~ Surf
~ HP Fire
~ Dragon Pulse

Latias makes a great lure for many Pokemon, and with an Expert Belt attached, your opponent will likely assume she has a Choice Scarf after seeing no recoil damage, and will think they are safe to send in a Pokemon that is resistant or immune to Latias' selected move. I can't count how many times I've killed Scozir with this. Machamp helps to scare off Blissey, who gives Latias lost of trouble.

Ice - Heatran, Vaporeon
Bug - Heatran, Machamp
Ghost - Heatran
Dark - Machamp, Heatran
Dragon - Heatran

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Jolly
252 hp / 4 AtK / 252 speed
Sword Dance
Roost
EarthQuake
Aerial Ace

Gliscor is my Lucario and Machamp counter, unless he has Ice Punch. He's also my late game sweeper once his counters are out of the way. Roost is there for recovery so I can get off some Sword Dances. EQ and Aerial Ace is for stab. It counters are taken care of by my team mates. Vappy is taken care of by Latias and Vappy. Gyarados is taken care of by Vappy. Swampert is taken out by Latias.

Water - Vaporeon
Ice - Vaporeon, Heatran


So, this is my new Soul Silver team. It looks like my team has pretty good synergy, except for Gliscor. He doesn't really help the others out except for thunderbolts directed at Vaporeon and EQ directed at Heatran. Any suggestions are appreciated!!!
 
Fix Gliscor's EVs to 216 Spe 216 Atk rest in HP and use this moveset Taunt, EarthQuake,Roost,Toxic.

216 Atk Evs means a guarrrenteed OHKO on 4 DEf 0HP Lucario
 
Fix Gliscor's EVs to 216 Spe 216 Atk rest in HP and use this moveset Taunt, EarthQuake,Roost,Toxic.

216 Atk Evs means a guarrrenteed OHKO on 4 DEf 0HP Lucario
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No, although that Gliscor set is good he stated that Gliscor is his sweeper, then so be it, although, it will be more effective if you put some of those HP EVs into attack, not sure how many though
 
For Gliscor, you should run a spread of 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe with a Jolly nature. That is probably the best SD Lucario counter there is.

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe
Jolly Nature [-SpA, +Spe]
-Earthquake
-Taunt
-Roost
-Toxic

Also, you are exceedingly weak to the standard DDMence and you lack a phazer, so I'd recommend you replace Vaporeon with Swampert.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Relaxed Nature [+Def, -Spe]
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Roar
Even though you lose reliable recovery, Vaporeon just isn't bulky enough to take on threats such as Salamence. Also, Swampert allows Heatran to switch in even easier because things like Celebi will fire moves like Grass Knot right away, allowing you to set up a Substitute more easily.

You're also DD Gyrados weak, without Vaporeon, who is a debatable counter anyways. You also have no check to Gyrados, which is why I recommend you use a Choice Scarf Latias. Of course you lose surprise value, but you can actually kill Gyrados. You also have no real revenge killer and Scarf Latias serves as a pretty decent one.
 
Yo Orly, I as stated before, he wants Gliscor to be his SD sweeper, which can work OK, I know the stall breaker set is usually much better, but not for his team. Also, i now his team is weak to DD mence, but the wish support is good for his team. I would replace something not sure what, with some sort of boltbeamer to handle gyara and mence, starmie perhaps?
 
Bartman101 said:
Yo Orly, I as stated before, he wants Gliscor to be his SD sweeper, which can work OK, I know the stall breaker set is usually much better, but not for his team. Also, i now his team is weak to DD mence, but the wish support is good for his team. I would replace something not sure what, with some sort of boltbeamer to handle gyara and mence, starmie perhaps?
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What about Porygon-2 since I already have a water? Who would you replace?
 
yeah, i forgot about the #1 counter to both mence and gyara, pory2 sounds great, with a moveset of recover, tbolt, ice beam, twave/toxic. For who to replace though, thats a tricky one, i really dont know, perhaps machamp?
 
Now that Latias is Uber(which SUCKS), who would y'all suggest? I don't want another water weakness, so no starmie. What about

Genger @ ???
Timid
252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
HP Fire
Shadow Ball
Psychic
????? <-- not Focus Blast b/c I don't like the 70% accuracy

OR I was thinking

Sceptile @ Expert Belt
Timid
252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Dragon Pulse
Energy Ball
HP ???
????

I'm leaning towards Gengar for a better counter to fighters. Thoughts? Suggestions? Do the Rotom forms show up on WiFi now? That'd make it easy to use one of them. Please don't lock this b/c I bumped this yesterday...I'm asking for to replace Latias.
 
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