Project National Dex OU: Break This Core (Week 34: Mega Latias + Kartana + Victini)

[Oculars]

voting Barnuts mew thats some flames fam

 

[MagikRoom]

I vote for heatran

 

[Arishem]

Rotom-W

 

[Bka Onon]

oshet, i forgot to post my reserved mon, i wrote the analysis on notepad, totally forgot to copy, haha (cries internally)
Anyways, voting for tran

 

[themonkeydidit]

mew

 

[Spud4You]

Mew

 

[thewoodude]

mew‍ no kizzy

 

[anique]

kyu

 

[Milo]

Congratulations to Barnut for winning this week!

Our next core will be Mega Mawile + Greninja-Ash.



How will you Break This Core?

Sets

Mawile-Mega @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
- Thunder Punch

Greninja-Ash (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Water Shuriken
- Ice Beam

 

[Bka Onon]

Congratulations to Barnut for winning this week!

Our next core will be Mega Mawile + Greninja-Ash.



How will you Break This Core?

Sets

Mawile-Mega @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
- Thunder Punch

Greninja-Ash (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Water Shuriken
- Ice Beam

Hey Tyler, I got a question in this, while doing calcs, should we consider gren already in ash forme or not?

 

[Solaros & Lunaris]

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- U-turn
- Aqua Jet

Nukes both with Close Combat and survives Hydro from unevolved Greninja + Sucker from Mega Mawile. Worst case scenario you get a low roll on Mawile but just gets Stealth Rock up and that shouldn’t be a concern.

 

[themonkeydidit]

Rillaboom @ Groundium Z
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Grassy Glide
- Knock Off
- High Horsepower


Tectonic always OHKOs if Mawile is already mega'd and has a 40% chance to OHKO after rocks at -1:
252+ Atk Rillaboom Tectonic Rage (175 BP) vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 336-396 (127.2 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-1 252+ Atk Rillaboom Tectonic Rage (175 BP) vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 226-266 (85.6 - 100.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

Grassy Glide obviously smokes Greninja.

Groundium also easily deals with Toxapex and Heatran.

non-VR mon for those interested

Poliwrath @ Roseli Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Drain Punch
- Bulk Up
- Encore

Roseli allows you to bulk up on Mawile and kill with EQ after a small amount of chip. If Mawile SD's you can encore and bulk up more.

Calc:
252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Play Rough vs. +1 248 HP / 0 Def Roseli Berry Poliwrath: 195-229 (50.9 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Thunder Punch vs. +1 248 HP / 0 Def Poliwrath: 216-256 (56.3 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+1 252+ Atk Poliwrath Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 238-282 (90.1 - 106.8%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

If M-Mawile switches into unboosted EQ it gets 2HKO'd:
252+ Atk Poliwrath Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 160-190 (60.6 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

If it switches into EQ before mega-evolving it's an almost guaranteed 2HKO:
-1 252+ Atk Poliwrath Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile: 148-176 (56 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252+ Atk Poliwrath Earthquake vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega: 106-126 (40.1 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Gren can be freely switched into and gets OHKO'd by drain punch:
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Poliwrath: 120-142 (31.3 - 37%)
252+ Atk Poliwrath Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja-Ash: 302-356 (105.9 - 124.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Oculars]

Hydreigon @ Groundium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 228 SpA / 28 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Nasty Plot
- Draco Meteor
- Thunder Wave

With Dreigon U guarantee live atleast one beam

252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 28 SpD Hydreigon: 264-312 (81.2 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

and can switchin to any other move since theyre all 3hkos twave the gren if u dont have rocks up otherwise its a 70% roll for ohko

228 SpA Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Greninja: 270-318 (94.7 - 111.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
228 SpA Hydreigon Tectonic Rage (175 BP) vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Mawile-Mega: 382-450 (144.6 - 170.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Lives sucker punch after 2 SD's and KO's back
+4 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hydreigon: 235-277 (72.3 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

[Michael213]

i’ll be using zeraora to break this core
Zeraora @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Drain Punch
- Bulk Up
i’m decided to use zeraora this week because it ouspeeds even ash gren and uses plasma fist to ohko gren. Meanwhile for the mawile u can use bulk up plus cc powered up by the fighting z. Drain punch is there if needed to recover any hp

 

[MagikRoom]

Reserving Venusaur

 

[Bka Onon]

Le Set

Stella (Tapu Fini) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Misty Surge
EVs: 52 HP / 252 SpA / 200 Spe
Modest Nature
- Moonblast
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Trick

Le Calc

If Mawile starts,
Click Hydro Pump.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Mawile-Mega: 249-294 (94.3 - 111.3%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
Gren Comes in,
Now you can either switch out to specs to Moonblast and do
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Fini Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja-Ash: 542-638 (190.1 - 223.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
or stay in and Hydro Pump
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja-Ash: 156-185 (54.7 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
because
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 52 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Fini: 121-143 (41.1 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

If Gren Starts,
Click moonblast, it can't do much
[If gren is base]
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 52 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Fini: 91-108 (30.9 - 36.7%) -- 66.9% chance to 3HKO
[If gren is ash]
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 52 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Fini: 121-143 (41.1 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
and you destroy it
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Fini Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja: 542-638 (190.1 - 223.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
or, click Hydro Pump if u think it's gonna switch to Mawile,
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Mawile-Mega: 249-294 (94.3 - 111.3%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
Even if it doesn't switch to mawile,
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja: 156-185 (54.7 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Fini Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja-Ash: 156-185 (54.7 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

So ye, specs fini is a good and fun answer to this core as it can counter both of them pretty easily, albeit taking some damage, but it can also trick its specs onto potential bulky mons that the core maybe paired with and basically ruining them (oh and also the mawile range becomes OHKO with rocks)

 

[Michael213]

i vote for rillaboom

 

[Barnut]

i vote for rillaboom

I also vote rillaboom, I like the set

 

[Arishem]

WaterShifu

 

[Redgoop115]

Congrats to themonkeydidit for winning last week!

This week we’re back with another offensive core of Medicham+Weavile

Sets

Medicham-Mega @ Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Zen Headbutt
- Thunder Punch
- Fake Out

Weavile @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Triple Axel
- Knock Off
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard

As usual submissions will close on Friday. Good luck!

 

[Michael213]

Tapu Fini@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Misty Surge
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Draining Kiss
- Surf
- Trick
The scarf lets you outspeed both pokemon and moonblasts ohkos both

 

[Boomenheimer]

Congrats to themonkeydidit for winning last week!

This week we’re back with another offensive core of Medicham+Weavile

Sets

Medicham-Mega @ Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Zen Headbutt
- Thunder Punch
- Fake Out

Weavile @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Triple Axel
- Knock Off
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard

As usual submissions will close on Friday. Good luck!

Reserving mega sableye??? Axzel am I a stall lord???

Ok updating my post:

Sableye-Mega @ Sablenite
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Hex

252 Atk Pure Power Medicham-Mega Ice Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Sableye-Mega: 85-100 (28 - 33%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Triple Axel (40 BP) (3 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Sableye-Mega: 174-207 (57.4 - 68.3%) -- approx. 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band *burned* Weavile Triple Axel (40 BP) (3 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Sableye-Mega: 87-102 (28.7 - 33.6%) -- approx. 0.1% chance to 3HKO

Case in point: stall lord msableye > some max atk boyes

 

[themonkeydidit]

Zeraora @ Electrium Z
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Bulk Up
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Play Rough/Knock Off/Volt Switch/Blaze Kick

Zera outspeeds and OHKOs both Weavile and M-Medicham with CC and G-Havoc respectively, living ice shard + fake out at -1:

252 Atk Zeraora Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 672-792 (239.1 - 281.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Zeraora Gigavolt Havoc (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Medicham-Mega: 301-355 (115.3 - 136%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zeraora: 118-139 (37.2 - 43.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Pure Power Medicham-Mega Fake Out vs. -1 0 HP / 0 Def Zeraora: 139-164 (43.8 - 51.7%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO

G-Havoc also OHKOs most non-ground type phys wall after rocks and can serve as a late game sweeper with bulk up:

252 Atk Zeraora Gigavolt Havoc (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 372-438 (93 - 109.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Zeraora Gigavolt Havoc (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 302-356 (90.4 - 106.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Zeraora Gigavolt Havoc (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 284-336 (93.4 - 110.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

 

[Axzel]

Reserving mega sableye??? Axzel am I a stall lord???

lord of nothing

 

[ChrisPBacon]

Reuniclus @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Focus Blast
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
- Recover

reuni is one of the few mons capable of taking two of whatever medicham uses, making it a safe-ish switch. furthermore, with colbur berry+focus blast, hitting it will remove weavile while keeping you with enough health for one more hjk later.