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How does it work?
Every week, I will submit a victim for you so that you can submit checks or counters to the pokemon. Then, after submissions are placed in, voters will vote which ones are the most effective in their eyes.
Here are some very important rules to look at before participating in this thread:
1.When nominating a mon, please keep this in mind:
2.Only post Pokemon sets that are reasonably viable in OU. Try to stick to the mons on the Viability Rankings
3. Reservations are allowed, however if you don't complete your post within 24 hours someone else is free to take your Pokemon.
4.You are allowed to correct people, but please do so in a civilised way, we're here to have fun, not start heated arguments.
5.You should post calcs to back up your nomination, they are not mandatory, but help out a lot.
6.Give a few explanations, not a whole academic research paper on why you nominated that certain mon, but just a few lines explaining should do.
7. If someone posts a pokemon with a certain set, you can only submit the same pokemon if it has a directly different set. You should be able to explain what makes your set unique.
To have a better idea of what's a check and what's a counter, feel free to check out this videof from BKC! and you can also read this article
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Every generation is different and the metagame is constantly evolving. However, there has always been and always will be threats - Whether they are defensive threats or offensive threats, every competent player should have a way to handle any threat - whether they are top-tier or are a niche pick.
How does it work?
Every week, I will submit a victim for you so that you can submit checks or counters to the pokemon. Then, after submissions are placed in, voters will vote which ones are the most effective in their eyes.
Here are some very important rules to look at before participating in this thread:
1.When nominating a mon, please keep this in mind:
Pokémon A checks Pokémon B if, when Pokémon A is given a free switch into Pokémon B, Pokémon A can win every time, even under the worst case scenario, without factoring in hax.
Pokémon A counters Pokémon B if Pokémon A can manually switch into Pokémon B and still win every time, even under the worst case scenario, without factoring in hax.
There are some parts of those definitions that may be confusing to the unfamiliar, so now I'm going to make sure we're all on the same page. "Hax" does not mean cheats or codes used to win. "Hax" means, loosely, things that have a chance of happening but usually don't, for example, critical hits (under most circumstances), Ice Beam freezing, and Fire Blast missing. This means that we don't take into account these types of things when we analyze if one Pokémon checks or counters another. Despite this, it's unwise to declare that one Pokémon checks another when the victorious Pokémon relies on hitting Focus Blast three times in a row, or something like that. Basically, you're often okay ignoring hax unless something that doesn't have a high chance of happening must happen in order for a Pokémon to check or counter another.
There are some things, like flinching, which you would normally consider to be hax but aren't always so. For example, Jirachi has a 60% chance to flinch a slower opponent with Iron Head, so in this case, flinching is not hax because it happens over half the time. For things such as missing or secondary effects, such as a Scald burn or Special Defense drop from Seed Flare, that have a decently high chance of happening, you need to think about them when you analyse checks or counters. Even though they might fit the standard definition of hax, they happen often enough for you to expect to see them in real situations somewhat commonly. There's no official or best guideline, but in my opinion, if some form of "hax" has a 30% chance or higher of happening, you should keep it in the back of your mind because it's not a negligible occurrence.
Pokémon A counters Pokémon B if Pokémon A can manually switch into Pokémon B and still win every time, even under the worst case scenario, without factoring in hax.
There are some parts of those definitions that may be confusing to the unfamiliar, so now I'm going to make sure we're all on the same page. "Hax" does not mean cheats or codes used to win. "Hax" means, loosely, things that have a chance of happening but usually don't, for example, critical hits (under most circumstances), Ice Beam freezing, and Fire Blast missing. This means that we don't take into account these types of things when we analyze if one Pokémon checks or counters another. Despite this, it's unwise to declare that one Pokémon checks another when the victorious Pokémon relies on hitting Focus Blast three times in a row, or something like that. Basically, you're often okay ignoring hax unless something that doesn't have a high chance of happening must happen in order for a Pokémon to check or counter another.
There are some things, like flinching, which you would normally consider to be hax but aren't always so. For example, Jirachi has a 60% chance to flinch a slower opponent with Iron Head, so in this case, flinching is not hax because it happens over half the time. For things such as missing or secondary effects, such as a Scald burn or Special Defense drop from Seed Flare, that have a decently high chance of happening, you need to think about them when you analyse checks or counters. Even though they might fit the standard definition of hax, they happen often enough for you to expect to see them in real situations somewhat commonly. There's no official or best guideline, but in my opinion, if some form of "hax" has a 30% chance or higher of happening, you should keep it in the back of your mind because it's not a negligible occurrence.
2.Only post Pokemon sets that are reasonably viable in OU. Try to stick to the mons on the Viability Rankings
3. Reservations are allowed, however if you don't complete your post within 24 hours someone else is free to take your Pokemon.
4.You are allowed to correct people, but please do so in a civilised way, we're here to have fun, not start heated arguments.
5.You should post calcs to back up your nomination, they are not mandatory, but help out a lot.
6.Give a few explanations, not a whole academic research paper on why you nominated that certain mon, but just a few lines explaining should do.
7. If someone posts a pokemon with a certain set, you can only submit the same pokemon if it has a directly different set. You should be able to explain what makes your set unique.
To have a better idea of what's a check and what's a counter, feel free to check out this videof from BKC! and you can also read this article
, you time to do so until Friday!
