Battle Stadium Need some suggestions for my team

Vradek

Vradek

Hey, everyone!
I've built this team a few days ago, but ranked online is killing me. I am feeling like this team could be better. Espeon espcially has been quite underwhelming. I would definitely like to know how I can improve this team with the new BSS regulations. There is 1 main condition I like to add when creating my teams which is I don't like using legendaries. I was going for a bulky offensive team and I don't think I want a full revamp unless this team is especially bad. I will preface this by stating I haven't created a truly competitive team since Sun and Moon so I am not sure the meta threats that I should be building my EV spreads around. Thank for any and all help.

EDIT: I updated my pokemon based on Pikalytics. Espeon and Excadrill are out. Im going to be adding Miraidon and I need a last slot, so suggestions are welcome.

EDIT 2:
  • I revised Ceruledge to OKO Caly-S with changed moveset, nature and EVs. looking for confirmation that Bulk Up is still useful.
  • Added Mach Punch to Pawmot with is Iron Fist ability to OKO choice Band Chien Pao
  • modified the moveset of Pirmarina and Corviknight to Pivot more easily to my sweepers
  • Decided Excadrill is actually much better than I thought at dealing with threats like Ting-Lu, Miraidon, Archaludon and Dragonite so he is staying
  • Was going to Switch Espeon for Miraidon but not sure. Looking for alternate options (both restricted and not) as I don't think Espeon is doing much for my team right now.
  • Replaced Espeon with Iron Bundles


:sv/iron bundle:
Iron Bundle @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 44 HP / 228 SpA / 68 SpD / 168 Spe
Modest Nature
- Freeze-Dry
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Tera Blast

Iron Bundles can safely OKO Dragonite and OKO Ursaluna-Moon when in Tera Water. I replaced Espeon for it as my special sweeper. The EV spread is so it can survive an Earth Power or a Hyper Voice and 2KO instead of Tera.


:ss/primarina:
Primarina @ Assault Vest
Ability: Torrent
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 180 HP / 252 SpA / 76 Spe
Modest Nature
- Sparkling Aria
- Moonblast
- Flip Turn
- Aqua Jet

Primarina is my SpD bulk. With her type coverage and lack of weaknesses, along with her good damage, I'm pretty happy with her. She tanks a lot really well. I researched that this EV spread maximizes power and bulk while allowing Primarina to keep pace with uninvested base 70 Pokemon. I dont know if this spread is still useful though for Reg G. Tera Steel turns two of Primarina's major weaknesses, Poison and Grass, into an immunity and a resistance, respectively. I am seeing non Pikalytics that ground or grass are most common but I'm not sure why. Some insight would be helpful.


:sv/pawmot:
Pawmot @ Focus Sash
Ability: Iron Fist
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Double Shock
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- Revival Blessing

I love Pawmot! I honestly created the team around him and Ceruledge. Double Shock with Tera electric is a given. Close Combat is also just a great damage move to solidify his role as a physical sweeper. The EV spread is also self explanatory to maximize speed and damage. I also grabbed Mach Punch to OKO choice band Chien Pao with the added damage from Iron Fist.


:sv/ceruledge:
Ceruledge @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 244 Atk / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bitter Blade
- Shadow Sneak
- Close Combat
- Sword Dance

My other joy in my team. I really changed him from the bulky wallbreaker he was originally. The 12 Spe outspeeds Rillaboom for a OKO. Maxing HP is my attempt to still keep it bulky but the 240 Atk (along with life orb and the adamant nature) is important to OKO Caly-S if it doesn't Tera. Tera Normal lets me remove the ghost weakness making Caly-S in 2KO range with 2 Bitter Blades. I think swords dance is better than bulk up to increase the damage and healing of Bitter Blade. Grabbed Close Combat for another coverage move.


:ss/corviknight:
Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Iron Head
- U-Turn
- Roost

Corviknight is my Physical bulk on my team. It's typing is well known to be amazing and I have both Pawmot and Ceruledge that can easily switch into both it's main weaknesses. Iron Head is good damage and U-Turn allows for safe switch ins. Roost is there to heal itself if it gets low in health. I still need to swap is Tera Typing but I am not sure between fire and dragon. Would definitely love some opinions on this.


:ss/excadrill:
Excadrill @ Muscle Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 Atk / 68 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide
- Sword Dance

Swords Dance Excadrill acts as both my wallbreaker and cleaner. Rock Slide is useful for Dragonite and with Muscle Band, providing just enough damage to 2KO when Tera Transformed. Mold Breaker also ignores Dragonite's Multiscale ability. Tera Flying lets Excadrill survive Dragonite's EQ allowing for the 2KO. The EVs in SpD are to survive a mystic fire from Flutter Mane or Astral Barrage from Caly-S and OKO either with Iron Head (Caly-S only if tera to Fairy, which is the most common tera typing for it).

I definitely find I am weak to taunt since several of my pokemon want to up their stats before hitting hard. So help to counter that would also be appreciated. Ideally I wouldn't mind just swapping out Espeon, who I feel is my weak link, to another Pokemon that better synergizes with my team and possible just mess with the EVs, items and movesets of the other Pokemon on my team, but if people feel differently, definitely open to changing more things.
 
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Heya, welcome to BSS! I assume this team was made for Regulation H (though you mention Wo-Chien, which was banned in that Reg) so before I suggest anything I should probably ask if you're planning on bringing it into Regulation G, the current regulation. I think the main issue with the team is that you're mainly running frail attackers with middling speed, with little momentum to bring them in safely. If you do plan on playing Reg G you're also likely going to struggle avoiding legendaries in your teambuilding since the meta is very much so centralized on them (or in other words, Oops! All Legendaries). If you want to challenge yourself that's totally cool, but I do think that running at least a restricted would increase the team's viability by a lot.

Since you mentioned not knowing which threats to prepare for it might help you to check out the Viability Rankings and Speed Tiers as well as Pikalytics which documents useful information such as what attacks, natures, items, and teammates a Pokemon is likely to run.
 
PSLY PRK said:
Heya, welcome to BSS! I assume this team was made for Regulation H (though you mention Wo-Chien, which was banned in that Reg) so before I suggest anything I should probably ask if you're planning on bringing it into Regulation G, the current regulation. I think the main issue with the team is that you're mainly running frail attackers with middling speed, with little momentum to bring them in safely. If you do plan on playing Reg G you're also likely going to struggle avoiding legendaries in your teambuilding since the meta is very much so centralized on them (or in other words, Oops! All Legendaries). If you want to challenge yourself that's totally cool, but I do think that running at least a restricted would increase the team's viability by a lot.

Since you mentioned not knowing which threats to prepare for it might help you to check out the Viability Rankings and Speed Tiers as well as Pikalytics which documents useful information such as what attacks, natures, items, and teammates a Pokemon is likely to run.
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Thanks so much for the guides.

To answer your question, I was playing on reg H (not successfully, hahaha) which is why I mentioned Wo Chien but I want to move to the new reg G. So any recommendations that I can look into for reg G would be super helpful
 
I'm not sure about Exca's tera. Maybe, for fire and water. But then why not water? Shadow Blade is probably shadow claw, there is no shadow blade. Espeon I think is typically lefties, w/ some bulk. I'm not sure if that should be Hatterene, or something else entirely. Magic Bounce mons aren't good despite what you'd think. Defog is weak in BSS, it's hard to fit rapid spin, and that even boosts spe. Hazard removal just usually isn't strong cause they aren't nearly mandatory. I haven't heard of steel Prim either, not sure that's good. Ceruledge can def. run a bulkier set for Bulk Up....but maybe not to that extent. The Atk should probably get the nature, or Spe, an run some of at least one vs. all in HP/Def.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Caly-s solos your team I think. It's not very easy to deal w/ obviously, but you should look into the answers for it over whichever mon is most replaceable to you. My friend swears by Ditto, w/ a priority mon(you have, and can keep, Prim, reasonably.) Something like a Mimikyu would work...that's all I can immediately even think of without risking giving dubious advice for a new mon.
 
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Omastar68 said:
I'm not sure about Exca's tera. Maybe, for fire and water. But then why not water? Shadow Blade is probably shadow claw, there is no shadow blade. Espeon I think is typically lefties, w/ some bulk. I'm not sure if that should be Hatterene, or something else entirely. Magic Bounce mons aren't good despite what you'd think. Defog is weak in BSS, it's hard to fit rapid spin, and that even boosts spe. Hazard removal just usually isn't strong cause they aren't nearly mandatory. I haven't heard of steel Prim either, not sure that's good. Ceruledge can def. run a bulkier set for Bulk Up....but maybe not to that extent. The Atk should probably get the nature, or Spe, an run some of at least one vs. all in HP/Def.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Caly-s solos your team I think. It's not very easy to deal w/ obviously, but you should look into the answers for it over whichever mon is most replaceable to you. My friends swears by Ditto, w/ a priority mon(you have, and can keep, Prim, reasonably.) Something like a Mimikyu would work...that's all I can immediately even think of without risking giving dubious advice for a new mon.
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Yeah, Shadow Claw, sorry for the typo. I updated Corviknight, Ceruledge and Primarina. Now I have safer switch ins like the previous commenter suggested. I'm also replacing Espeon with Miraidon as my restricted to get a speedier attacker like the previous commenter suggested and need to replace Excadrill I think.

Yeah I took the idea for Exca and Prim's Tera Typings from here:

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/excadrill/uu/
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/primarina/ou/

I know it's not the same format but the logic on removing weaknesses made sense in general to me.

Yeah, I am noticing that hazard removal isn't a thing here, which is new to me. I guess stall teams aren't a thing either???

Do you know where I might be able to find a better spread for Ceruledge?

I'll also look into a counter for Caly-S.

Thanks for all the amazing feedback.
 
Vradek said:
Yeah, Shadow Claw, sorry for the typo. I updated Corviknight, Ceruledge and Primarina. Now I have safer switch ins like the previous commenter suggested. I'm also replacing Espeon with Miraidon as my restricted to get a speedier attacker like the previous commenter suggested and need to replace Excadrill I think.

Yeah I took the idea for Exca and Prim's Tera Typings from here:

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/excadrill/uu/
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/primarina/ou/

I know it's not the same format but the logic on removing weaknesses made sense in general to me.

Yeah, I am noticing that hazard removal isn't a thing here, which is new to me. I guess stall teams aren't a thing either???

Do you know where I might be able to find a better spread for Ceruledge?

I'll also look into a counter for Caly-S.

Thanks for all the amazing feedback.
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Hm? There's some stall. As for ceruledge, no one has written it up. Maybe ask in the simple questions thread for bss.
 
That looks better. I might change blast and dice on exca, mold breaker already breaks sturdy, so you need multi hit less imo. I think rock slide might be better, but idk what item.

Edit: that's good on ceruledge, but the only thing kinda holding caly s back is 2 4x weaknesses, so it'll tera plenty.
 
Omastar68 said:
That looks better. I might change blast and dice on exca, mold breaker already breaks sturdy, so you need multi hit less imo. I think rock slide might be better, but idk what item.

Edit: that's good on ceruledge, but the only thing kinda holding caly s back is 2 4x weaknesses, so it'll tera plenty.
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Yay!! Thank you

If I Tera Normal with Ceruledge or with Excadrill against a Tera Caly-S, either should be able to take it down now. I also replaced Espeon for Iron Bundles. What do you think. Would Chien Pao also be a viable option?
 
Vradek said:
Yay!! Thank you

If I Tera Normal with Ceruledge or with Excadrill against a Tera Caly-S, either should be able to take it down now. I also replaced Espeon for Iron Bundles. What do you think. Would Chien Pao also be a viable option?
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Well always, it's a high rank Mon. That sounds better gl.
 
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