New To This Whole Battling Thing

ChinoAPOC

ok, I've never battled before, and I'm trying to learn. Here's the team idea that I have so far.

Gallade@Expert Belt
Adamant 252atk/104spe/154hp
-Leaf Blade
-Close Combat
-Psycho Cut
-Night Slash

Gengar@Leftovers
Timid 252spa/252spe/4hp
-Hypnosis
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast

Vaporeon@Leftovers
Bold 252def/98spa/188hp
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Toxic
-Wish

Salamence@Life Orb
Adamant 252atk/136spe/120hp
-Dragon Claw
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Flamethrower

Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish 252def/252hp/4atk
-Earthquake
-Roost
-Stealth Rock
-Knock Off

Porygon-Z@Choice Scarf
Timid 252spa/252spe/4hp
-Tri Attack
-Dark Pulse
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt

Any and ALL assistance is welcome, since I really have no idea what I'm doing.
 
Please include a small amount of text after each Pokemon, to describe your strategy and choices with that pokemon. Otherwise we could tell you to get rid of a move you have a very good reason to keep (for example). Although at a glance...

2 4x Ice weaknesses could prove problematic.

Weavile weakness.
 
I think that you should remove Toxic on Vaporeon for Baton Pass, to get some healing going around.

But anyway, let's move on to the team:

Gallade - Fighting/Psychic
Gengar - Ghost/Poison
Vaporeon - Water
Salamence - Dragon/Flying
Gliscor - Ground/Flying
PorygonZ - Normal

Okay, it looks like you have the standard 2 Walls 4 Sweepers going on there, Gliscor and Vaporeon are your walls, and the other Pokemon are sweepers. Alright..

First, no Leftovers on Gengar, put on a Life Orb, or maybe even Black Sludge, to hamper those that decide to use Trick on a Gengar (And reason why, I have not idea, so just Life Orb).

Also, you have not much resistance against Ice type attacks, and Weavile can tear through most of your Pokemon like a hot knife in butter, as a lot of his moves hit your Pokemon for SE damage, I don't know much of a substitute for your team, as I don't know your strategy, but I do have one idea for your starter, Gengar, sleep the opponent to gain the advantage or something along those lines.

Most of these Pokemon have standard sets, I don't know about Gallade, but in any case, the moves are fine, except for Vaporeon, which I have mentioned earlier. You might wanna consider Fire Blast than Flamethrower on Salamence. Well, that's about all the advice I could give you so...enjoy? XD
 
Selphimist said:
First, no Leftovers on Gengar, put on a Life Orb, or maybe even Black Sludge, to hamper those that decide to use Trick on a Gengar (And reason why, I have not idea, so just Life Orb).
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Just a question, what do you prefer, a Tricker with Leftovers, or a Tricker with Black Sludge? This Black Sludge could go to your wall, and then, it loses all its potential. If you want Leftovers, use Leftovers. The only reason you should use Black Sludge is because of Item Clause.
 
I think that you should remove Toxic on Vaporeon for Baton Pass, to get some healing going around.
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You don't have to baton pass with wish, you can just switch something in to receive it.
 
Demonz said:
You don't have to baton pass with wish, you can just switch something in to receive it.
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But switching you always move first which means you have to switch in on an attack to get a heal but with baton pass you have the chance to go last so you get healed without getting hit.
 
hmmm....sorry about the lack of info.....i'll try and clarify.

gallade - physical sweep for type coverage. hits everything neutral and hard.
gengar - special sweep. will switch leftovers for black sludge.
vaporeon - bulky water. hopefully holds back dragons and makes them think twice with ice beam. also for wish pass.
salamence - physical sweep. pretty standard as i see.
gliscor - second wall/starter/stealth rock set-up. was trying for something different.
porygon-z - special sweep. also pretty standard.

I don't have a problem switching stuff out as I only have my gallade finished @ 100. I knew about the ice weakness, but can't think of anything else. forretress maybe? I dunno.
 
Okay I'll give it a go then.

gallade - physical sweep for type coverage. hits everything neutral and hard.

I would use a Scarf here, Gallede doesn't outspeed much on his own. It would also get rid of your Weavile weakness.

gengar - special sweep. will switch leftovers for black sludge.

HP Fighting > Focus Blast. Focus Blast will always let you down with its accuracy, its basically Blizzard or Thunder.

vaporeon - bulky water. hopefully holds back dragons and makes them think twice with ice beam. also for wish pass.

Fairly standard.

salamence - physical sweep. pretty standard as i see.

If you're going to use Flamethrower use either a Lonely (Atk+, Def-) or a Naughty (Atk+, SpDef-) so as not to reduce its damage. Otherwise fine.

gliscor - second wall/starter/stealth rock set-up. was trying for something different.

Skarmory? He would also get rid of the Ice weakness I mentioned earlier aswell. If you want to stick with Glicor then the one you have is fine.

porygon-z - special sweep. also pretty standard.

Seems fine.
 
well....what about this??

forretress(over gliscor)@leftovers
relaxed 252hp/162atk/96def
-stealth rock
-earthquake
-gyro ball
-rapid spin

no healing and knock off....but still allows for walling/eq/stealth rock. and makes weavile sad.

togekiss over salamence
calm 252hp/252spe/4def
-Roost
-Air Slash
-Twave
-Aura Sphere

Flinch sweep.....but just an idea.
 
Vaporeon has too much EVs
252 + 188 + 98 = 532

The max number of EVs you could have is 510.

Also, why are you running Leaf Blade when CC does more damage to other bulky waters and still 2HKOs Swampert?
 
sorry...not a math person. and yes, even basic math eludes me at times. so....66 spa on vaporeon then.

running leaf blade due to gallade's soft defenses. also.....grass is SE to waters, coupled with expert belt makes LB more damaging to waters than a straight CC without the defense loss. and LB does 4x to Swampert....more with expert belt.
 
sorry moogleking, i can't say i agree with the scarf on gallade. it hits hard but not hard enough for constant OHKO's, especially if you're locked in. i suggest you just throw leftovers on it and replace either night slash or psycho cut with a status like thunder wave or willow wisp. i would personally take out leaf blade for stone edge too. then take out focus blast on gengar and hit it with energy ball instead.
 
ok, i agree with the removal of the scarf....and stone edge isn't reliable enough......but why energy ball over focus blast?
 
ChinoAPOC said:
ok, i agree with the removal of the scarf....and stone edge isn't reliable enough......but why energy ball over focus blast?
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if you don't like stone edge, you'll hate focus blast. stone edge has 80% accuracy focus blast has 70%. especially on little frail gengar. leaf blade is only really good for swamperts which are a bit tanky on the physical side. gallade though can take some hits, will not like switching into swampert's earthquakes too much. gengar though, is immune to ground and can OHKO swampert with energy ball.
 
sorry moogleking, i can't say i agree with the scarf on gallade. it hits hard but not hard enough for constant OHKO's, especially if you're locked in.

Actually I used to run it myself, very effective. Although as a lead I'm not sure how it would work.
 
moogleking said:
sorry moogleking, i can't say i agree with the scarf on gallade. it hits hard but not hard enough for constant OHKO's, especially if you're locked in.

Actually I used to run it myself, very effective. Although as a lead I'm not sure how it would work.
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really? o well, to each their own. i felt like it was really easy tog et out predicted and the payoff wasn't that big. scarf leads should be good. it can catch people by surprise with an easy super effective attack.
 
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